I had one of those but had to return it because of that startup rebuild thing (on mh-like objections), it not working well with playlists and some crashes when scrolling. Sounded great though
― stet, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:13 (six years ago) link
(The Walkman not the zune)
right but you can still use your Zune, you can drag and drop the files onto the thing
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:22 (six years ago) link
wait do you feel locked into itunes or the ipod?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:25 (six years ago) link
wasn't continuing to make more expensive Zune-like devices with half the storage― frogbs, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:58 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark
― frogbs, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 1:58 PM (twenty-six minutes ago) Bookmark
...that also happened to make phone calls and access the internet from anywhere in the world and which you were carrying around anyway because smartphones are replacing personal computers as people's primary devices.
― éľś, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link
yeah. I have a ton of playlists and metadata loaded into it. plus (for the time being) my classic still works
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link
you're going to end up like these people http://www.newser.com/story/208407/whats-so-special-about-this-japanese-chalk.html
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link
I've been that person for like 3 years now
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:34 (six years ago) link
can't believe apple no longer supports my Newton, what a world
― Dan I., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link
tbh chalk is way better than markers
― droit au butt (Euler), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 20:56 (six years ago) link
RIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1tAYmMjLdY
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:07 (six years ago) link
I remember when the Apple II folks went crazy because the Macintosh was "worse, more expensive, not as compatible, etc." and vowed that Apple was an evil company for abandoning the platform.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:29 (six years ago) link
all of this is true but unfortunately streaming is king
streaming has fuck-all on it IRL though
(yeah your long post later is basically otm but I don't scrobble, haven't slsked in years and borrowed an external optical for a few weeks this year to rip a bunch of sessions, concerts, b-sides and plays before moving overseas)
how many of the "sync with iTunes" ppl here are also the "iTunes is the fucking worst at syncing" ppl
have never synced either an ipod or an iphone. add files to iTunes, edit metadata, copy manually to device, delete.
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 22:08 (six years ago) link
do you back the phone/pod up anywhere?
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link
Apple was an evil company for abandoning the platform
not totally wrong
― j., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 23:44 (six years ago) link
i don't understand why people are so surprised that people just want to continue to be able to use and maintain an expensive piece of dedicated technology that was sold until very recently and which they want to use in a way that they are used to being hassle-free and which suits them. I want a tiny little lightweight mp3 player that I can use in the gym, rather than use a quite heavy and valuable phone, it's no big deal but it would be good if those technologies were still supported and even minimally developed by the company that made a lot of money out of selling them in the first place.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:07 (six years ago) link
support legislation requiring technology over a certain price point to be serviced, or replacement parts provided, for a given time period imoas long as corporations manufacture things and people don’t value longevity there is absolutely no incentive for them to provide anythingthey’re not going to be obligated to make an ipod with expandable memory or whatever but if you want to use it for eons and replace the battery, have at it
― mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
it would be good if those technologies were still supported and even minimally developed by the company that made a lot of money out of selling them in the first place.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, January 23, 2018 7:07 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark
i agree! this is also completely separate from frogbs's claim that apple is leaving money on the table by killing the ipod classic.
― éľś, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:43 (six years ago) link
otm
― mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:45 (six years ago) link
not saying they're going to be making money selling iPods in 2018 - rather that it doesn't seem smart to me to not even bother to do the bare minimum to keep some segment of your customer base happy when your entire business model is based around locking people into a software/hardware system. and I say that as someone who genuinely wanted to spend hundreds of $$$ every couple years on new iPhones
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link
It seems more like the kind of thing that might foster brand loyalty and good feeling rather than actually make them money.
That said, you know what technology is still going strong and probably should be supported? Analog headphone connectors!
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:42 (six years ago) link
I forgot to fume about headphone jacks in my list upthread
I put podcasts on a phone and delete them from the phone once I've listened to them. Last did a backup of the ipod library a couple of years ago, but I have vastly more mp3s than can fit on it. (I say "have," but they're on external drives in a storage locker on the other side of the planet...)
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link
I'm probably the least into music person on all of ILX so my opinion barely counts but I sure as heck appreciate not having to "have" "media files" anymore.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:47 (six years ago) link
Since this is the I HATE APPLE thread I will say that I hope I don't have to buy a laptop ever again. If this one ever dies I'll probably just live without a "proper computer", it's a hassle and it isn't good for much.
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:50 (six years ago) link
brand loyalty is kinda what makes them money isn't it? there's Apple, the Apple software, and the Apple accessories...and then there's everything else.
― frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 04:59 (six years ago) link
uh what makes them money is selling hardware to people at a profit, is that what you're referring to as "everything else"?
― direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 05:03 (six years ago) link
what do yall think about a music player/storage device built into the headphone itself?
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
you'll just do anything to get rid of our beloved conventional headphones won't you
― j., Wednesday, 24 January 2018 20:58 (six years ago) link
xp don't like. headphones have enough quality issues/quirks without adding extra crap. i don't even like active noise-canceling
― Nhex, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:24 (six years ago) link
I taped an ipod shuffle to my headphones once
― mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:31 (six years ago) link
Gotta say, I do appreciate that when a program freezes up Force Quit "just works", in a satisfyingly immediate fashion. On Windows 7 it seems like when I terminate something from the process manager, it'll often just sit there frozen for a while before it decides to finally fuck off.
― Dan I., Monday, 29 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
Was it always thus, by the way? I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit in every OS I use.
― Dan I., Monday, 29 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
i almost never need to force quit so it may be something special about your suite?
― Mordy, Monday, 29 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
stuff used to crash all the damn time to the extent you’d have to reboot your computer!!
― mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
half of the 90s was rebooting computers any time you tried to run anything more complex than lotus 1-2-3
― mh, Monday, 29 January 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link
so big news today I thought about production being cut back on the iPhone X. I don't remember hearing anything similar about any older iPhone model this soon after its launch.
― calstars, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 01:58 (six years ago) link
everyone’s a supply chain expert these days
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:00 (six years ago) link
I feel like 10+ years ago I wasn't constantly, constantly forcing crashed/hung/frozen programs to quit
my macbook is that old, w/ somewhat newer but not up to date os and browser, and the browser hangs all the fuckin time. some other programs too, but browsers are the worse. really thwarts the use of force quitting, too, since it can take forever to even get the window up to confirm.
― j., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 02:52 (six years ago) link
ah the new web is the problem though, old web’d never leave ya hanging *curses you with a 2004 javascript engine*
― mh, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:06 (six years ago) link
oh word, I forgot that programs crashing in the bad old days took the whole system down with them more often than not.
― Dan I., Tuesday, 30 January 2018 03:31 (six years ago) link
No, I disagree. The last ipod classic was produced in 2014, that is just a little more than 3 years ago, that does not make it antique.
An enterprise which wants to build a strong link with the customers should care for support. It would be easy for them to change the battery pack but the thing is it is financially not interesting, that is why they do not do it, I suppose. And I have decided for myself that I am not going to support this company who does not care for my interests anymore, it is as easy as that.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:56 (six days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
you're right, i see what you mean now
btw that new keyboard-randomiser bug has to go. i'm sick to death of ios throwing up some random fucking keyboard every time i switch apps.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:22 (six years ago) link
e.g. i have the chinese zhuyin keyboard for when a taiwanese person wants to type something on my phone, but at least 50% of the time ios goes "oh btw here's that zhuyin keyboard you only use twice a month", not the english/pinyin keyboards i use literally all the god damned time
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link
yea it's Russian roulette whether i actually get Gboard or not by which i mean, every so often my phone actually shoots a bullet into my head. questionable imo
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:53 (six years ago) link
I've deleted the main English one, which maximises my chances of getting Gboard
― Alba, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:05 (six years ago) link
i don’t trust google to not scrape all my typing
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:36 (six years ago) link
which is a shame, because it looks like it would solve all my problems
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:37 (six years ago) link
I'm loving SwiftKey, got it after it was mentioned in this thread
― willem, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 10:39 (six years ago) link
ios swiftkey still doesn’t do chinese, which is right out for me
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 11:17 (six years ago) link
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-focus-on-software-quality-extends-to-mac/
lol hasn't this been like the focus for the past 5 years? every year the theme seems to be 'this version of OSX has a lot of under the hood improvements' but i guess this year it'll be even more about 'under the hood improvements'
― éľś, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 17:26 (six years ago) link