RIP Tom Petty

I was in hospital a few years back and had two doctors prescribe similar drugs at almost the same time, both unaware of the other, so close together timewise that the hospital's system that informs doctors of what's being fed through the IV tube didn't reach the other one.

I'm curious as to whether the amount of these drugs found in the autopsy were consistent with what he was prescribed, and indeed whether he was prescribed them at all. There were three types of fentanyl found, one which isn't legal in the US, as well as another less powerful pain reliever oxycodone, plus two benzodiazepines (Xanax and Restoril, for insomnia maybe?) and Celexa, an SSRI antidepressant. I hope this wasn't another case of a celebrity bypassing usual channels to get medications for legitimate ailments, as Prince seems to have done. He also died of a fentanyl overdose, and like Petty was complaining of pain just before his death. Prince wasn't prescribed fentanyl though, and fentanyl tablets were found in his home in a bottle labelled hydrocodone which is a less powerful painkiller that's very common in the US. Had he taken hydrocodone for his pain rather than fentanyl, he might still be alive.

Been watching and digging the Bogdanovich doc on Netflix the last few nights (which I'd never gotten around to before). The only jarring thing is one interview that I'm guessing is from the late '90s or early '00s, which is interspersed with a bunch of other interviews from different periods before and after, and I kept thinking "why does he look so weird in that one?" Finally realized it's because of the pinpoint pupils -- it's obviously from his heroin days. He's coherent and everything but it's still unnerving.

New Rare/Unreleased Box Set: https://variety.com/2018/music/news/tom-petty-boxed-set-of-unreleased-music-coming-in-september-1202869884/

The track listing for the box is out. About 1/4 of it is deep album cuts, and about half of it is live. I was hoping for more previously unreleased studio material, but I'll almost certainly buy it anyway.

http://www.tompetty.com/news/american-treasure-box-set-1772051

Perhaps the most random thing on there

6 Concert Intro Live introduction by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, The Forum, Inglewood, CA—June 28, 1981

How much of it is stuff that was not on the Playback box set?

only one I'm seeing that seems to be right from playback is the stevie nicks version of "apartment song" but I'm not positive.
looks like a cool set! the previously released album tracks thrown in seem a little weird, but maybe they're there for flow.

first single is kinda great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt0nIV60ssA

I think I'm gonna have to compare the 2CD and 4CD track listings. If the 2CD set has all the unreleased tracks and alternate versions, I'll buy that. Cause honestly the Live Anthology is so good that I don't really need the live stuff.

Someone posted the entire Mike Campbell guitar doc!

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6g58e4

thanking u

How I'd rank'em.

into the great wide open gets love; i'm happy.

(also agree on mojo)

"Into the Great Wide Open" is sooo great, easily one of the best power pop records I've ever heard.

wait what? The title track? For power pop it's rather sleepy.

lol yeah there's uh not a lot of "power" in that record

No no, I meant the album. Mainly for "King's Highway", "Two Gunslingers", "All the wrong reasons", "Dark of the sun" (though I suppose the title track to a degree, too)

and "Out in the Cold"!

wait i thought i hated power pop

that's my favorite petty album wtf my life is a lie

wait i thought i hated power pop

Yeah, I share the sentiment. This is like it's a power pop record made by accident.

I love Big Star but most of the power pop stuff I've heard sounds so defanged in comparison. To me, Petty eschews that languid sound and restores some edge to it.

"power pop" possibly one of the most poorly defined subgenres ever

The Raspberries are awesome btw

power pop is extraordinarily well suited to the Spotify playlist format

numero has a great one

Big Star is a power pop band in the same way Led Zeppelin is a early 70s hard rock band, of it but far above it

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album. Well, here is the Dirty Knobs, which is Campbell and friends:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_Cfsktanus

what a horrible band name

I think it's a good name!

It's a guitar nerd joke, but it's also a funny put-down.

too close to The Dirty Heads for my taste

The actual chorus is weak. Should have cut it and just let the pre-chorus be the chorus.

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album.

Was this around the time he started giving away songs to other people ("Ways To Be Wicked", "Boys Of Summer", "Heart Of The Matter", etc.)?

Much later, apparently. He offered "Boys of Summer" to Petty first, in fact, but after fiddling with it Petty reportedly passed. "Heart of the Matter" I assume was similar. Funny that that album also features a few songs written by Stan Lynch.

verse is basically warren zevon covering "raspberry beret."

"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.

"Heart of the Matter" is fucking terrible.

runaway train is gorgeous

I remember reading an interview with Mike Campbell were he said Petty wouldn't let him release a solo album, since he wanted first crack at potential songs, but also because he said Campbell's solo album would sound too much like a Petty album.

yeah this is covered in the Warren Zanes Petty bio — kind of an interesting glimpse of how un-laid back Petty actually was!

He won't back down, man.

just read that Zanes bio...really great...so much I didn't know

man I miss Tom way more than I thought I would - a good bio of him sounds like a worthwhile read

yeah, i think the Zanes bio is pretty unflinching for an authorized book.

"Runaway Train" written in the same mold, and Petty accepted it because he didn't want another "Boys of Summer" situation.

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...but then it did (purportedly unintentionally lol*):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27_-AWZcZec

*lol because Campbell actually played on the studio track and didn't recognize his own composition until Stevie brought it up to him.

The Zanes bio is essential. One of the best rock biographies I've ever read. Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.

it's got everything and Stephen Stills!

I love "Oooh My Love."

Petty was unflinching in interviews and 100% hands-off.

Tbf, he was this after an epic documentary that overlooked (at his request) a lot of bad shit, and after that conversations book, which did the same. Third time's a charm!

more like Tom Pretty am I right (as in, pretty petty!!)

that Bogdo doc is a strange watch

yeah it was weirdly disjointed for such a long watch

Wildflowers deluxe thingy is pretty fuckin magic. It’s crazy how even the outtakes are just so goddamn good, and the live songs sound SO great - lots of care taken in the curation, really impressed

yeah, it's great. the outtakes are all pretty album ready imo