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5. David Lynch(1838 points; 21 votes; 1 first-place vote)
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
It's a strange world.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:20 (six years ago) link
I didn't see Twin Peaks: The Return. I was too busy watching films at the cinema.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
I guess it's late enough to predict.
4. Welles3. Tarkovsky2. Hitchcock1. Kubrick
I think Kubrick will finish first. Maybe by a few points, and I can be happy I made the difference. (I just went to post and had to adjust it--I had Lynch third.)
― clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
I like a bunch of Kubrick but he really really doesn't deserve to win this.
― emil.y, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link
I don't see why Kubrick is un-ilx
I recently rewatched the original Twin Peaks. It was such a strange mixture of comedy, melodrama, mystery and horror
― Dan S, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
Frankly I'd only be happy with Tarkovsky winning at this point.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
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4. Andrei Tarkovsky(1881.5 points; 22 votes; 1 first-place vote)
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link
sorry to do that to you; i couldn't resist
Unlike Fassbinder, Tarkovsky was a late-surge proposition. He was like #8-#15 for the opening stretch.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
Lynch was my #1
― WilliamC, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
Huh, only 5 points between Kurosawa, Buñuel & Bergman, then ~200 points to Fassbinder, Powell'n'Pressburger & Lynch within 25 points of the others. Sometimes think Kurosawa's Ikiru is the greatest film ever made.
― etc, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:29 (six years ago) link
still not that many first place votes have shown up yet!
― Dan S, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
so no David Lean? :(
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
I'm with Peter Bogdanovich right now, and we're softly chanting "Orson, not Wes."
― clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:31 (six years ago) link
― Dan S
I suspect many, like mine, have fallen into the "one person really loves them, nobody else cares" hole.
― emil.y, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
Either that, or everyone who voted really fucking loves Kubrick/Welles/Hitchcock.
xps - oh just great.
Welles - a couple of great, great films then pretty much huffed and puffed.Hitchcock - abuser.Kubrick - boring, dull prick who marshalled some technically nice cinema. Indulged to shit because of Hollywood insecurity.Tarkovsky - could be the same as Kubrick but had a far richer visual imagination and although he was a 'march of aesthetic' bore like Stan he enaged with stuff like SF which undermined all of that.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
yeah I need a drink now.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
I still haven't seen Nostalghia, brb got an appointment with a torrent.
― calzino, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
Welles and Kubrick had their themes/visual motifs but never really made the same film twice.
Tarkovsky and Hitchcock sort of made one career-long film.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:33 (six years ago) link
You could do a search or something, not too many stans around here. I voted him fairly high btw. Suspect nobody's gonna be happy with the results
― i know kore-eda (or something), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:35 (six years ago) link
And again, if you enjoy any of the Method-based acting that has dominated films of the last 70 years, Elia fucking Kazan, rat or not, has to be one of your top 50 filmmakers. It's not up for debate.
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― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:36 (six years ago) link
Morbius in Europe we are doing communism again so as far Kazan goes I have two words to say to you - fat chance.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:38 (six years ago) link
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3. Stanley Kubrick(1920 points; 21 votes; 4 first-place votes)
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
About 5 places too high
― i know kore-eda (or something), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:42 (six years ago) link
Much higher than expected for Wells... or will it be someone else up there with Hitchcock?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
Paths Of Glory, Dr Strangelove and Barry Lyndon are the holy trinity for me.
― calzino, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:43 (six years ago) link
love that the image used for Kubrick is devoid of humans.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
OK, it's got to be Vera next, right?
― emil.y, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
*cries*
My top 3 still AWOL, ah well.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:45 (six years ago) link
Much higher than expected for Wells
Yes--I thought he occupied the same space as Elvis in a music poll. (Happy about it, I'll add.)
― clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:46 (six years ago) link
5% of the list are women, that's kinda depressing.
― Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link
Women have not had the opportunity to build a lengthy oeuvre to compare with men. That's part of it.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:50 (six years ago) link
Sometimes think Kurosawa's Ikiru is the greatest film ever made.― etc, Friday, 19 January 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― etc, Friday, 19 January 2018 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Just to go back up a bit - yes, I love Ikiru and a bunch of Kurosawa and it did pain me a tiny bit to leave him out except he made it high so no biggie in the end.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
i'm leaving to drink at Marlene Dietrich's place, so bye
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 19 January 2018 22:52 (six years ago) link
That's one major reason why I'm wary of auteurist frameworks for thinking about film: centering the director as author tends to frame women's work in film as invisible or inessential.
xxp
― one way street, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:53 (six years ago) link
Why? Women can be auteurs. (Akerman, Denis.)
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:56 (six years ago) link
https://images.findagrave.com/photos250/photos/2007/153/6949282_118092027360.jpgToshiro Mifune is a massive part of what I love about Kurosawa movies, and this actor as well.
― calzino, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:57 (six years ago) link
I've certainly been thinking about my top screenwriters list while considering the directors presented here, for example in Hollywood 30s to 50s, and it would fit a lot of women.
― abcfsk, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
And more recent auteurs: Arnold and Ade.
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:59 (six years ago) link
I mean, woman can, are, and have been auteurs, but director-focused approaches to film history tend to reproduce gendered patterns of exclusion from directorial work. That's all I'm saying.
― one way street, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:00 (six years ago) link
Two of my nominees--Alice Guy Blache and Lois Weber--did groundbreaking work before 1920.
― Polly of the Pre-Codes (j.lu), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
Off to a movie, have to miss the end of this...post #2!
― clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
Big (and Under Recognized) Fields For Women In Film: Editing and Production Design.
― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 19 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
I mean, woman can, are, and have been auteurs, but director-focused approaches to film history tend to reproduce gendered patterns of exclusion from directorial work.
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:04 (six years ago) link
And, yeah, the suspense is killing me. :D
― Cherish, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:05 (six years ago) link
Cary Grant's birthday today, so I guess #1's apropos. (Instead of the crop-dusting scene that I usually go with, I played the auction scene from NBN for my 3/4 class today. Had to stop about five times in two minutes to explain why, in the context of an auction, Grant's antics were so funny. Not a good choice.)
― clemenza, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:07 (six years ago) link
Right, so recovering the work of underappreciated or effaced female directors is one strategy, elaborating critical concepts to do justice to other aspects of filmmaking is another; they're not necessarily contradictory.
― one way street, Friday, 19 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link