Weinsteins step down as Miramax CEOs

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I am so glad The Root wrote that article "Men Understand Consent Like White America Understands Racism". I got into such a long discussion 2 nights ago with a young black dude who was glibbly victiming shaming that Babe article (it's slander!, like what, she was forced??? emoticon, Aziz just wanted to get some butt, he needs to work on his game) that he was blocked by friends on facebook. He just didn't get why and my friend kept making excuses for him saying he was liberal and a BLM activist. I was like, so? He literally kept making the same arguments that white people do to say they aren't racist and I just couldn't figure out a good way (me as a non-black woman) to point it out.

Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link

not treating women like shit seems to be a final frontier for some people from what i can tell

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

it is regularly distressing how often men tend not to recognize women as human, yes.

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link

yeah i think the most depressing lesson of the last decade for me has been about the logical leaps and rhetorical backbends even the most woke people will undertake in order to hold onto their privilege

maura, Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link

I am so glad The Root wrote that article "Men Understand Consent Like White America Understands Racism". I got into such a long discussion 2 nights ago with a young black dude who was glibbly victiming shaming that Babe article (it's slander!, like what, she was forced??? emoticon, Aziz just wanted to get some butt, he needs to work on his game) that he was blocked by friends on facebook. He just didn't get why and my friend kept making excuses for him saying he was liberal and a BLM activist. I was like, so? He literally kept making the same arguments that white people do to say they aren't racist and I just couldn't figure out a good way (me as a non-black woman) to point it out.

maybe you could have shown him this post.

Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link

I tried to give him different perspectives with other articles (one from VSB), on how it was his response (calling her trash) that was problematic and not the actual disagreement of what occurred in the article, and he kept pushing the line that he has a lot of sex and knows a lot of women and it's unfathomable that Grace didn't just leave. She blew him, she didn't fight etc. etc. I lightly tried to bring up race in regards to woc especially being under other pressures of not wanting to report to the police and not wanting to place even more scrutiny on black men etc. He did not take well to that at all. But then I dropped it because I just really knew better than to bring it up since I am not black. I did post that article earlier today directly to our friend (who was his old coach) so hopefully he will take offline time to try to talk to him. But gah, even our friend kept making excuses for him (it's his age, he's a good guy, the other guys who blocked him are just as bad they were just showing off for their gfs, he has a warrior's heart??? (must be a football thing).

Yerac, Friday, 19 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link

Hey I remember when I was 22, very obtuse and arrogant. Thank god no one gave me a platform back then, yeeeesh.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 19 January 2018 00:30 (six years ago) link

22 was when I think I first started posting on ILX.

Yerac, Friday, 19 January 2018 00:41 (six years ago) link

Warrior’s heart jfc
Fuck warriors
Throw them all in the garbage
The last thing the world needs at this point is men with warrior’s hearts

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 January 2018 01:04 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 05:57 (six years ago) link

wait no

https://youtu.be/4nurQy-oyZg

maura, Friday, 19 January 2018 05:58 (six years ago) link

god i love that song

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Friday, 19 January 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

175 years for Nassar

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:02 (six years ago) link

how bout all those who enabled him or helped cover it up, surely they've all lost their jobs

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:06 (six years ago) link

waiting on the same deal for a series of Miramax assistants

omar little, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:07 (six years ago) link

xp nope, not yet, but I can't imagine it's going to be much longer til general outrage forces people out. Everyone I know who works here is totally pissed off, and I saw a sign today on my way to work about a "fire president simon" rally happening soon.

joygoat, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:17 (six years ago) link

the shit that board member spouted about how great president simon is was really something

mookieproof, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 18:25 (six years ago) link

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/17/us/larry-nassar-judge-sentencing/index.html

two things that can be true:
1) nassar deserves a harsh prison sentence
2) the judge engaged in irresponsible grandstanding that might make her sentencing decision vulnerable to appeal

k3vin k., Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:16 (six years ago) link

i was thinking the same thing about her comments going too far, legally. though that dude does seem like an irredeemable asshole if there ever was one

Nhex, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:33 (six years ago) link

judges do that shit all the time in far sketchier situations

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:36 (six years ago) link

yeah, but good lawyers pounce on that stuff during appeal. not everyone can afford good lawyers or afford to pursue appeals.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 25 January 2018 01:42 (six years ago) link

i was kinda wondering that myself, xpost k3v

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:22 (six years ago) link

Hopefully he kills himself soon so it won’t matter

Spottie, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:54 (six years ago) link

michigan state president resigning

mookieproof, Thursday, 25 January 2018 02:56 (six years ago) link

I think they would not appeal in order to not have him sit through all the victim testimonies again. Also, every single educational org, public company, non-profit, etc should be required to re-review sexual and provide a report on all sexual assault complaints going back 20 years.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 January 2018 08:51 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gX3k9jZ5N8o

scott seward, Thursday, 25 January 2018 12:32 (six years ago) link

yerac otm

maura, Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link

so not clicking on Cosby

bannonality of evil (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:26 (six years ago) link

Also, every single educational org

hey they already have mandatory harassment webinar participation what more do you want

j., Thursday, 25 January 2018 15:29 (six years ago) link

Nassar's statement was delusional and a little surprising in its brazenness. Also know as: being a white man.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:12 (six years ago) link

As it happens my student media department has a sexual assault forum this afternoon, and we had to scramble this morning to replace the University of Rochester case with Michigan State.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

Crap, I am so used to being able to edit other site posts that I am making so many annoying typing mistakes on ilx.

Yerac, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:13 (six years ago) link

Who is british? How big is this President's Club scandal?

Yerac, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:16 (six years ago) link

I couldn’t tell if it was big but it certainly sounded baroque

direct to consumer online mattress brand (silby), Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:17 (six years ago) link

Lots of good talk about this on the British politics thread; scandal involves quite a lot of very powerful ppl, all involved are running for cover.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:18 (six years ago) link

hey they already have mandatory harassment webinar participation what more do you want

my only exposure to ex-pres simon was when she spoke at my new faculty orientation where indeed the importance of the mandatory sexual harassment webinar was repeatedly emphasized

joygoat, Thursday, 25 January 2018 16:48 (six years ago) link

Story of the day in Ontario, with an election a few months away (probably something on the Canadian politics thread).

http://www.570news.com/2018/01/25/ontario-tory-leader-patrick-brown-resigning-amid-allegations-conduct/

clemenza, Thursday, 25 January 2018 22:55 (six years ago) link

Magician David Copperfield allegedly drugged and assaulted a 17-year-old model in 1988 https://t.co/XLn7y0TMvZ pic.twitter.com/5uVyBtsDZr

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) January 25, 2018

more like David Cop-a-feel

frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

i have a Vice where they interview him on his private island.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:14 (six years ago) link

david copperfield story least surprising thing ever to me

akm, Friday, 26 January 2018 18:32 (six years ago) link

the other steve wynn is not amused
https://a4-images.myspacecdn.com/images03/35/8d21860efaf34bb1a196b724e702c4d7/300x300.jpg

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:06 (six years ago) link

"Now watch me try and make this story ... disappear!"

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:14 (six years ago) link

you mean the "potatoes that resemble humans" thread?

frogbs, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:27 (six years ago) link

"this facial expression"

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

there's a lot going on with that face

mookieproof, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link


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