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too much flute around for me personally. what's that other really early david johnson era recording they did? prehistoric future?

Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:02 (six years ago) link

i love rock flute, bring it

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

i wanna hear it!
ysi?

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link

I'm gonna rip it, gimme a couple of days :)

sleeve, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:45 (six years ago) link

it's on youtube.

scott seward, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:48 (six years ago) link

also over here: http://itslostitsfound.blogspot.de/2017/09/irmin-schmidt-kamasutra.html

tylerw, Thursday, 18 January 2018 18:52 (six years ago) link

^^^ where I DL’d

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:32 (six years ago) link

plenty more can rarity action there, too

tylerw, Thursday, 18 January 2018 19:33 (six years ago) link

i bought a SEALED original copy of this today at a local store. wowee zowee does it ever sound incredible. my speakers were weeping. so beautiful. so cool. hard to find and this is the most perfect copy ever. like new. anyway, i bring it up here because jaki plays drums on five tracks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2m1leO14eI

scott seward, Monday, 22 January 2018 01:48 (six years ago) link

Holy shit! Never heard of him but man, that's a veteran trippers dream l.p.! Even on my tiny kindle speaker i can feel "it". I gotta get some shrooms and play this again. On the big speakers though. Nice one as usual, Scott!

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link

Scott nice find! What did you pay?

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:09 (six years ago) link

http://www32.zippyshare.com/v/LuxWguW4/file.html

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link

it wasn't nothing but less than half of what i would have had to pay online for just a regular old VG+ copy. such a nice thing to be the first person to play an album like that. just amazing production.

scott seward, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:24 (six years ago) link

most copies for sale online are from germany and they want 80+. which means its not even that easy to find in germany.

scott seward, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:26 (six years ago) link

Thank you Calstars!!

VyrnaKnowlIsAHeadbanger, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

definitely something worth reissuing officially. there was a bootleg of it on LP and that's it.

scott seward, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link

is there an insert or any more text / print in the sleeve?

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:30 (six years ago) link

ty Scott

calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 02:53 (six years ago) link

<3 jaki-for-hire <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:37 (six years ago) link

this sounds good! pretty Floyd-y.

tylerw, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:47 (six years ago) link

v nice, ty Scott!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link

Info about Czukay trove over on Rolling Reissues 2018, just got this press sheet:

CAN

ANNOUNCE NEW BOOK

ALL GATES OPEN: THE STORY OF CAN
BY ROB YOUNG & IRMIN SCHMIDT

AVAILABLE MAY 5 VIA FABER & FABER
Faber & Faber are proud to announce All Gates Open, the definitive story of the most influential and revered avant-garde band of the late twentieth century: Can. It consists of two books and previously unseen art and photos.

In book one, All Gates Open, Rob Young gives us the full biography of a band that emerged at the vanguard of the Krautrock scene in late sixties Cologne. Can’s studio and live performances burned an incendiary trail through the decade that followed, and left a legacy that is still reverberating today in hip hop, post-rock, ambient, and countless other genres. Rob Young’s account draws on unique interviews with all the founding members of Can, their vocalists, friends and music industry associates. And he revisits the music, which is still deliriously innovative and unclassifiable more than four decades on. All Gates Open is a portrait of a group who worked with visionary intensity and belief, outside the system and inside their own inner space.

Book two, Can Kiosk, has been assembled by Irmin Schmidt, founding member and guiding spirit of the band, as a “collage” – a technique long associated with Can’s approach to recording. There is an oral history of the band, collated by former Electronic Beats and Spex editor Max Dax, and Robert Defcon, drawing on interviews Irmin conducted with musicians who see Can as an influence. These musicians include the likes of Bobby Gillespie, Geoff Barrow, Mark E. Smith, Daniel Miller and many others, but also with artists and film-makers like Wim Wenders and John Malkovich, where Irmin reflects on more personal matters and his work with film. Extracts from Irmin’s notebooks and diaries from 2013–14 are also reproduced as a reflection on the creative process, and the memories, dreams and epiphanies it entails. Can Kiosk offers further perspectives on a band that has inspired several generations of musicians and film-makers.

Note: The limited edition of All Gates Open will be available to pre-order beginning Thursday, April 5 at www.faber.co.uk.

Can were unique and their legacy is articulated in this two-book volume with the depth, rigor, originality and intensity associated with the band itself.

Irmin Schmidt is a composer and founding member of Can, and has scored more than one hundred soundtracks, released a dozen solo albums and written an opera, Gormenghast, based on the novels of Mervyn Peake. In 2015, he was made a Chevalier de l’Ordre des Arts et des Lettres. He lives in southern France.

Rob Young’s books include the acclaimed Electric Eden: Unearthing Britain’s Visionary Music, and histories of record labels Rough Trade and Warp. A former editor of The Wire magazine, he has contributed to publications including Uncut, the Guardian, Sight & Sound, Frieze and Art Review. He lives in Oslo.

dow, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 19:46 (six years ago) link

looking forward to this!

tylerw, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link

same -- i've only read Electric Eden but it ruled

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link

Yeah this looks really good.

♫ very clever with maracas.jpg ♫ (Le Bateau Ivre), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 20:54 (six years ago) link

For review queries, check w Jared Dionne on Mute site or Dan Papps on Faber.

dow, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link

Not sure about the fictional digressions in Electric Eden so hope this is a straight biography.
Looking forward to reading it.
Would still really like a copy of the Pascal Bussy Can Book, hoped that was getting a reprint a few years back but it never appeared as far as I know.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link

I hope it's possible to buy the first book separately. No offence, Boaby.

Video reach stereo bog (Tom D.), Tuesday, 30 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link

i'm almost certain it's two "books" bound as one volume

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link

also thanks to everybody in this thread for the great links etc. this past week

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:06 (six years ago) link

too much flute around for me personally. what's that other really early david johnson era recording they did? prehistoric future?

― Arnold Schoenberg Steals (rushomancy), Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:02 AM (one week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah and it rules. super blown-out and messy, sort of on that early amon düül vibe

budo jeru, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link

Yeah that Kamasutra thing was super great. Prehistoric Future was more like ‘inspiring and important to hear but might not listen again’.

Winter. Dickens. Yes. (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 31 January 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

an advance review copy of ALL GATES OPEN landed in my loving arms thanks to a partner who works at a place where books are reviewed
i'm about 60 pages in, enjoying immensely so far.

reading about the early days of the formation of the group is especially interesting. i also did not know that irmin schmidt was inspired by the stomp of early music for some of the early Can tracks. he said "a lot of this music had an unbelievable rhythm; the people sang hard, so that they yelled it out"
that's right!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:14 (six years ago) link

Looking forward to that, official release is 3rd May & there's a talk tour tied in with the release around tehn so coming up fast. There's a date i Dublin I noticed earlier.

Would still love a copy of the old Can Book by Pascal Bussy

Stevolende, Sunday, 1 April 2018 14:20 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

This book really delivers! Is anyone else reading it yet? There is a very detailed description of how Mother Sky was made that I personally have never read before and found illuminating.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:11 (five years ago) link

Didn't know it was out tbh.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:21 (five years ago) link

(xp) Let me guess, the end section is a tape loop? (Mother Sky that is, not the book).

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:22 (five years ago) link

Nothing about a tape loop so far -- Irmin shuttled back and forth from where the filmmakers were and decided on cues, structure, mood and then he went back to Inner Space/the castle and explained to the band what they should do. I loled when I read that the band wasn't interested in the details of the movie anyway. Jaki confirmed this process and said "we simply made the music and it always fit." I am enjoying this book so much.

you can read about the book here https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/may/07/all-gates-open-story-of-can-rob-young-irmin-schmidt-review

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 14:30 (five years ago) link

my copy arrived a couple of weeks ago and has been sitting on my desk taunting me ever since

picked a bad time to have a baby tbh, i should have thought ahead

not to derail the thread but congrats on babby bg!

Toto Cuomo (NickB), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:32 (five years ago) link

Am at Soon Over Babaluma so far. been interesting. Shame Damo didn't want to be interviewed especially if he did go and get interviewed by Mojo right around the time the book was released.

Enjoying it, would still really like to read the Pascal bussy book. Not sure why I never got around to getting it. Found out it came out in '89 through SAF so wondering if I at least got to look at it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:33 (five years ago) link

I've got the Pascal Bussy book, it's fairly skimpy.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:36 (five years ago) link

Oh right. I've been building it up on my head since it was supposed to be being reissued about 10 years ago. Possibly because it was the book on Can.
I guess i have what I need now then.
Or would do if i get all the visual footage as well as the rest of the audio.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:41 (five years ago) link

(babby’s not here quite yet btw, just been busy prepping! thx anyway nick :D)

It's a bit like the Wire book on SAF being comprehensively superseded by that other Wire published a couple of years ago.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:44 (five years ago) link

other Wire book, that should read.

Poisoned by Johan's pea soup. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 15:49 (five years ago) link

Yeah still need to read that too.
But wasn't the older Wire one getting slagged before the newer one appeared somewhat or am i thinking of a 3rd Wire book.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:02 (five years ago) link

i am glad i waited to read this book! it's got everything i wanted to know about so far. the guardian review complains that it doesn't get far enough into the other "personalities" of the band members, but that hasn't bothered me so far. not only do some people prefer to keep their professional and personal lives separate, not everyone wants to know that stuff. i think it's fine the way it is. his complaints about Rob Young's florid descriptions are otm if you dislike florid description but apparently i like it!

congrats on your babby, the book will still be there when you're ready :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 29 May 2018 16:10 (five years ago) link


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