"Record Collection Rock" - is there still a need for this? Does it still exist?

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speaking of bobby gillespie i was playing my 7-inch copy of "upside down" last night and i was thinking it would be cool to own every color variation. that was my record collection rock moment. i only own the yellow cover version. i did not play "vegetable man" though. in honor of this thread.

scott seward, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link

for the record, i don't understand the point of Fat White Family at all.

Badgers (dog latin), Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:03 (six years ago) link

my wife used to like a Fat White Family song (presumably she still does although I haven't heard her play it for ages) but she downloaded the album and didn't think much of it. I thought the song she liked was alright though.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:18 (six years ago) link

It was easier for eg JAMC in the mid 80s, bcs the stuff they were "inspired by" wasn't readily available. Vegetable Man, Subway Sect, Lee Hazlewood, Dr Mix and the Remix - this was some obscure shit at the time. The journos picked up on the Velvets and Ramones thing, but little else.

mahb, Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:30 (six years ago) link

They seemed kind of naff to me at the time tbh, not musically, just their shtick - the leather jackets, drainpipe jeans, Chelsea boots, Velvets '66 look with the grown out Goth hairstyles and the songs all called Candy this, Honey that, Sugar the other. Everybody had done the Velvets by that stage plus every group in Glasgow - from the ones who were trying to sound like Al Green downwards (or upwards) - had songs with Candy or Honey in the title, it was like, "What another one! Give us a break!" It was a bit, "So where are they from? East Kilbride? Oh that explains it."

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:44 (six years ago) link

pwei had a song taking the piss out that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI_i_GJK46g

faust apes (NickB), Thursday, 18 January 2018 10:55 (six years ago) link

busoni has been called 'the most learned composer who has ever lived'
brahms too had read just about everything you could get in the late 19c including early music
you get into postwar postmodernists and then we can really talk about manuscript collection classical

Yeah I was gonna say Luciano Berio to thread.

Matt DC, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:47 (six years ago) link

concept: RCR, but the only records in your collection are by PWEI

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 14:59 (six years ago) link

surely one modern band who have picked up the baton : the horrors.

mark e, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link

mgmt as well

ufo, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:07 (six years ago) link

I guess I don't like the idea - the og Reynolds one - bc it seems to imply that a sort of heroic, isolated genius narrative is somehow a more authentic way of making music, which is ... rockist?

pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link

I think there's a difference between synthesis and facsimile but tbh it's a fuzzy line

mh, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

My Husband's Stupid Record Collection Rock Band

President Keyes, Thursday, 18 January 2018 15:49 (six years ago) link

i honestly see Sonic Youth as part of this continuum

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 19:56 (six years ago) link

i wrote this 19 years ago in the village voice newspaper:

"Even though the post-music crowd is already, as I speak, mining other rich veins of lost treasure (Serge Gainsbourg, Lee Hazelwood, Italian vampire movie soundtracks, rare jug band 78s, King Diamond picture discs), Krautrock is still king for those who will not allow themselves to dance. To simplify matters further, I’m just going to blame Thurston Moore."

"In the almost-30-year career of Sonic Youth, if Thurston only told two people a week to buy a Cluster or Achim Reichel LP, I figure that constitutes about half the U.S. sales of Krautrock to date. And if only half of those people formed bands, that would at least explain why Blur threw away their Ian Whitcomb albums and started experimenting with “sound.”

scott seward, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 21:30 (six years ago) link

It occurs to me that the entire post-Blur career of Damon Albarn is the most obvious modern example of this.

Matt DC, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 11:45 (six years ago) link

he even made a record collection band

mh, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 14:58 (six years ago) link

Do The Cramps figure into this? Avid record collectors who repurposed their love of vintage rock and roll for their own ends.

Also, I don't think most here are much interested in neo-rockabilly/roots rock etc., but guys like Deke Dickerson are always filling their albums with obscure cover tunes by Eddie Noack, or Grandpa Jones, or Lee Dresser and the Krazy Kats. Don't know if this qualifies as RCR exactly, but it's a fun rabbithole of research for me.

Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 15:34 (six years ago) link

Deke Dickerson veers into Guitar Collector rock, with the whole Moserite cult of twang.

The Cramps were defiantly collectors, but I feel like that sort of revivalist attitude is the opposite instinct - here's something discarded that we've scavenged and will make you love. Yacht rock would be a recent manifestation of the same. Record collection rock is more "we are providing you will only the best influences, are you are smart enough to recognize them as the best influences?"

Mungolian Jerryset (bendy), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:09 (six years ago) link

one of my favorite groups of all time could have been called *Ivo's Record Collection*. and i thank him all the time for turning me on to so much cool stuff in the 80s!

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:45 (six years ago) link

nrbq get hepcat points for covering eddie cochran and sun ra on their first album in 1969. terry adams came in the store and gave me a copy of the new nrbq EP where they cover "happy talk" from south pacific and roy orbison's "only the lonely". it's great.

scott seward, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:51 (six years ago) link

Yeah, Terry also covers Patience and Prudence. He's all about this.

Brave Combover (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 16:57 (six years ago) link

I'm a bit confused by the Damon Albarn thing really, unless I've kind of misunderstood your interpretation of it Matt DC. if anything I'd have said Blur, with their copying of tropes from the Kinks, Syd Barrett, Pavement, Wire etc is far more RCR than Good The Bad And The Queen or Gorillaz?

Badgers (dog latin), Wednesday, 24 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this video made me think of this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EG2kcIz2NQ8

(lot's of good recommendations btw)

budo jeru, Thursday, 15 February 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

does Ty Segall constitute RCR?

veronica moser, Thursday, 15 February 2018 01:40 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

Re 'MOJO reading lads' Mojo had the first interview before the album came out and the band did a playlist of influences for 'em (Dion, Nino Rota, David Axelrod, Gainsbourg..) so anyone reading Mojo knew before anyone else that the record wasn't a rock album. It's more for 30 and 40-something types Mojo. Lads are more 'LadBible' these days.

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Kanye O'er Frae France? (Tom D.), Friday, 11 May 2018 15:18 (five years ago) link

Was thinking the exact same thing when I read that post.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 11 May 2018 17:56 (five years ago) link


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