there's a lot of light between 22 and 28
― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:03 (six years ago) link
there do not seem to be many winners in this ansari situation
Anyone who wanted to disperse any of the momentum gained since Weinstein broke.
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:08 (six years ago) link
"I'm 22 and so far, not too shabby!"
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:19 (six years ago) link
Ms. Way's email isn't very mature.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:20 (six years ago) link
I guess that's an understatement.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 23:21 (six years ago) link
I swear, I can't believe people use "no holds barred" seriously. But she is 22 and not aware of the Hulk Hogan movie.― Yerac, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Yerac, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:43 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
using it is one thing, but what is the meaning in this context.
― Dat Login was the dname u doofus (Sufjan Grafton), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link
The entire email is embarrassing but all I could picture at the end was the Hulk Hogan movie so it lent a certain ending flourish to an already terrible email.
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:09 (six years ago) link
it's not that obscure a phrase? maybe you're just really into that movie.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:35 (six years ago) link
We need to talk about you associating a common phrase with a decades old movie
― President Keyes, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:40 (six years ago) link
what til Yerac finds out that Pastamania dates back to Renaissance Italy :/
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:43 (six years ago) link
Ha! I think I have never heard anyone ever use that phrase non-ironically. She should've ended with Cowabunga!
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:55 (six years ago) link
Whoops that wasn't a word. I don't even know what I mean. I am so threadbare from reading about the gymnastics trial.
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 00:57 (six years ago) link
I think the email probably reflects the writer’s ideology just fine. She’s not young or naive she just thinks differently from people we’d usually think of as progressive. She probably sees, in Ashleigh Banfield, an image of privilege and thinks she’s “punching up” and that’s what you’re supposed to do.
― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:31 (six years ago) link
The email is again indicative of Babe maybe not being a mature or credible publication for breaking stories on sexual assault, or perhaps not thinking through their material as much as their sources might require
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:35 (six years ago) link
Right. Banfield should have attacked the websote and the journalist in the first place, not “Grace” who is just someone who was mistreated (by Ansari) and then exploited (by Babe).
― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 01:39 (six years ago) link
gotta say the burgundy lipstick burn is extremely generationally cutting
― maura, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:27 (six years ago) link
"no holds barred" is a common phrase that no one associates with hulk hogan except for you
― akm, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:38 (six years ago) link
Burgundy Lipstick Burn (feat Jeremih)
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:39 (six years ago) link
hopefully feminism can survive some dude posting the internal email squabbles among two women to Business Insider
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:47 (six years ago) link
Lol it’s true. That might be the sleaziest and most pointless reveal of this entire episode.
― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:00 (six years ago) link
But i think it was Banfield who first brought those out in the open.
― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:02 (six years ago) link
FWIW I had no idea what HLN was until I read the above tweet/email
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:35 (six years ago) link
ok ok guys you dont consume cable news media we get it
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:41 (six years ago) link
i would if anyone suggested it were worthwhile in any way! it's not, is it?
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:49 (six years ago) link
no it’s just that naif “i dont even own a tv” shit that rubs me the wrong waynevermindforget i said anything
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:08 (six years ago) link
gtfo you guys "i've never heard of HLN" it's not new
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:31 (six years ago) link
you sound like comic book guy
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:35 (six years ago) link
holy shit that letter is so stupid
― flappy bird, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:36 (six years ago) link
lol i knew of CNN Headline News but was unaware that they'd rebranded that channel as HLN . . . a decade ago. i suspect it will last a good while longer than babe dot net does
also the next time my cat does something bad i'm gonna call her a second-wave feminist
― mookieproof, Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:52 (six years ago) link
hahahaha
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 05:59 (six years ago) link
according to what we have learned from katie, fourth wave feminism = “you cant sit with us”
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 06:01 (six years ago) link
more than using "no holds barred" it bothers me that she used it incorrectly - you have a "no holds barred fight" it's not just a synonym for absolutely.
HLN sounds like a home shopping network (and I'm pretty sure that's what I assume it was when scanning cable guide listings)
― louise ck (milo z), Thursday, 18 January 2018 06:25 (six years ago) link
also the next time my cat does something bad i'm gonna call her a second-wave feministfelinist
― mookieproof, Thursday, January 18, 2018 12:52 AM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Evan, Thursday, 18 January 2018 06:33 (six years ago) link
― treeship 2, Thursday, 18 January 2018 04:00 (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Not rly
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 January 2018 07:55 (six years ago) link
"If you could let Ashleigh know I said this..."
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:30 (six years ago) link
All of the continued handling of this entire Aziz episode is super upsetting in comparison to what is going on with the gymnastics trial. I didn't know a young woman had committed suicide, another woman had told her parents as a child and was repeatedly denied that it had occurred and was forced to apologize to her assailant. Numerous people were told about him and nothing happened for years and years.
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 12:33 (six years ago) link
Nassar is now saying it's just soooo hard to listen to all of his victims' testimonies. OH REALLY, MOTHERFUCKER?!?!?
― tokyo rosemary, Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link
try BEING them, piece of shit
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 20:32 (six years ago) link
he is a piece of shitwhat's really disgusting to me are all the people who didn't believe these girls when they tried to tellthat pisses me off a lot
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
otm
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 January 2018 21:20 (six years ago) link
“what about the men” is useful as a macro or micro defense, as this makes plain
― maura, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:09 (six years ago) link
"what about the men" comes from the same place as "well you know people are racist against whites too"
― omar little, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
meaning, as a generalized sentiment coming from a place of privilege whenever the most reprehensible aspects (or any aspects tbh) of the privilege are pushed back against even slightly.
― omar little, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:12 (six years ago) link
That's why I can't believe people have the nerve to heavily criticize the subject in the Babe article (nevermind the reporting problems) and why she didn't "just leave" all while they are reporting on the Nassar testimonies.
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
I am so glad The Root wrote that article "Men Understand Consent Like White America Understands Racism". I got into such a long discussion 2 nights ago with a young black dude who was glibbly victiming shaming that Babe article (it's slander!, like what, she was forced??? emoticon, Aziz just wanted to get some butt, he needs to work on his game) that he was blocked by friends on facebook. He just didn't get why and my friend kept making excuses for him saying he was liberal and a BLM activist. I was like, so? He literally kept making the same arguments that white people do to say they aren't racist and I just couldn't figure out a good way (me as a non-black woman) to point it out.
― Yerac, Thursday, 18 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
not treating women like shit seems to be a final frontier for some people from what i can tell
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
it is regularly distressing how often men tend not to recognize women as human, yes.
― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:02 (six years ago) link
yeah i think the most depressing lesson of the last decade for me has been about the logical leaps and rhetorical backbends even the most woke people will undertake in order to hold onto their privilege
― maura, Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:27 (six years ago) link
maybe you could have shown him this post.
― Bein' Sean Bean (LocalGarda), Thursday, 18 January 2018 23:43 (six years ago) link
I tried to give him different perspectives with other articles (one from VSB), on how it was his response (calling her trash) that was problematic and not the actual disagreement of what occurred in the article, and he kept pushing the line that he has a lot of sex and knows a lot of women and it's unfathomable that Grace didn't just leave. She blew him, she didn't fight etc. etc. I lightly tried to bring up race in regards to woc especially being under other pressures of not wanting to report to the police and not wanting to place even more scrutiny on black men etc. He did not take well to that at all. But then I dropped it because I just really knew better than to bring it up since I am not black. I did post that article earlier today directly to our friend (who was his old coach) so hopefully he will take offline time to try to talk to him. But gah, even our friend kept making excuses for him (it's his age, he's a good guy, the other guys who blocked him are just as bad they were just showing off for their gfs, he has a warrior's heart??? (must be a football thing).
― Yerac, Friday, 19 January 2018 00:27 (six years ago) link