Long Fin Killie - Classic or Dud?

Aye, Kismet's awesome; Amelia condenses their earlier work into really frenetic, highly intense packages. I love all three albums. There's a great handful of b-sides, too.

Something I wrote about Amelia a while ago:

http://whatwasitanyway.blogspot.com/2008/02/long-fin-killie-amelia.html

Jamie Watson, for reference, produced / engineered the first Snow Patrol album, before they were MOR bullshit.

I know Jamie, he lives up the street from me. Hate to be pedantic, but Grant Macn@mara did the engineering on the Snow Patrol thing.

I hate to do something quite so wankerish as this, but unless the sleevenotes are a lie, you're incorrect on this, Keith:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/IMG_8824.jpg

^^^this guy is bein' a bulldog today

It's cos I'm 30, innit.

and to think i never wished you happy birthday

happy birthday nick

there now be happy

happy happy happy

Hey Nick, no problem, and indeed it gives me a chance to explain how wankerish I was posting what I did. Happy birthday too!

Grant was my flatmate at the time, but it's Jamie's studio, so he understandably wanted to take the credits... He's done a bunch of things over the years, the Vaselines spring to mind, Idlewild too, but lots more. Grant certainly did a bunch of engineering on that record as I remember being in a pub with them after they'd all been 'at work'; however, I think my main point is a decade long beef about the Long Fin Killie thing, which Grant also did the engineering on... He did the remix of "Lipstick", which was the single, but wound up being credited as "programmed by Grant...", some way down the list from produced and engineered etc. which he was pretty pissed off by at the time, which I understand, as I watched him do it. So on occasion since then, I've tried to redress the balance!

Hope you had a great birthday.

i missed these guys back in the day. finally got houdini recently, and i'm amazed. maybe it's the mancunian accent, but it sounds like elbow bites them so hard it's almost criminal, like witchcraft and black sabbath

is luke sutherland over? the Music AM stuff was such a letdown.

He's moved into other work -- he collaborated on this production:

http://www.curious-seed.co.uk/

And apparently it won some attention at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival this year:

http://www.theskinny.co.uk/article/96637-its-a-jumble-out-there-found-wins-a-fringe-first

some of these guys' b-sides/EP tracks are really kicking my ass right now as I'm hearing them for the first time.

the coda of the original version of "Lipstick" is just about the eeriest 45-second snippet of music I've heard. I can understand why it wasn't included on such a propulsive album as Amelia, but I think I prefer it to the album version, if only for the moment when that massive feedback-y guitar tapers off and exposes the dissonant violin line that had been lurking deep in the mix and waiting for the right moment to unleash its horror.

the violin line toward the end of "Stacked", on the other hand, has sort of a country/folk/hoedown/(Dexys?) feel to it, and it's one of the few times that an LFK song ends on a less sinister note than it begins.

are there any other semi-rarities like these that weren't listed in keith's post upthread?

Really loved this band when they came out. Saw them in a club in Raleigh, NC and also at the Lollapalooza date they played in 1996. This song is my favorite:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jl55AFCtqKc

Great band. I stupidly sold my CDs ten years ago, and am having a helluva time finding albums #2 and 3 now, used or even just lossless files in the ether.

Will be being played tonight at Devon Record Club.

http://devonrecordclub.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/long-fin-killie-amelia-round-15-nicks-choice/

NEO KILLFILING

anyone heard We Can Love You? his band with Speaker Bite Me people? do they still exist?

ah, i was going to ask the same question: "anyone heard We Can Love You? his band with Speaker Bite Me people?"

The first Bows (Luke Sutherland) album Blush hit all my buttons in 1999.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjauvpx-zuY

Amelia is really one of the all-time greats. Wish I'd gotten around to making that singles comp I muttered about 8(!) years ago upthread.

AFAIK Luke Sutherland's mainly doing music work for theatre in Scotland? Would love to hear him score a film, &c.

Wish I'd gotten around to making that singles comp I muttered about 8(!) years ago upthread.

No time like the present. At least post the tracklisting!

the bows album is great, something I bought on a whim because it was $2 and it looked like something I would like. didn't even know about the LFK connection at the time.

make sure you get both albums.

I went ahead and put together that singles comp and it's kicking my ass!

Spotify has a couple of the albums. "British Summertime" is playing and it's glorious.

Blimey, how the heck did I miss this band the first time around?! Fortunately everything's cheap used from Amazon.

I went ahead and put together that singles comp and it's kicking my ass!

― Gerald McBoing-Boing

Ha, tracklisting? All my CDs/7"s are on the other side of the world, and my portable HDD is dead. Loved the woodcut-style artwork on some of them.

Pretty sure I had all of the singles at some point. Not sure why I got rid of them (to buy other records, of course, but...), though I do still have the Lipstick CD5.

All-too-brief and blurry appearance in here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jogCPK0we6k

One day I'll have to sit down and transcribe the lyrics to Amelia.

Any Sutherland updates?

Seems so... https://revmagnetic.bandcamp.com

For etc, my apologies for flaking on this in 2012. I have since gone back and picked up everything they did, it's all fantastic.

The Complete Singles (non-LP tracks only):
Suki
Boy Racer
Butterbelly (these 3 from the "Butterbelly" CD single)
Flaccid Tabloid
Stacked (these 2 from "The Heads Of Dead Surfers" CD single)
Flower Carrier (Pruned version) (from the "Heads Of Dead Surfers" 7")
Vanilla (from the "Vanilla" 7")
Rhino (from the "Rhino" 7")
Angel
Nation
Clinch (these 3 from the "Hands And Lips" CD single)
Lipstick (original)
CZ
Love Life (these 3 from the "Lipstick" CD single)

Classic classic classic!

Will now endeavour to collect up those singles tracks.

Ned remember when we both went to an LA ilxor brunch 7 years ago and you gave me a Long Fin Killie CD?

Ah, cheers Gerald!

Stoked to hear new Luke Sutherland stuff - Rev Magnetic def. closer to LFK than, say, Music A.M.

I like all of their elements: the drumming specially which is very unique for the genre and the decade but they have a frustrating tendency to get stuck on a great groove and not do much with it.

Also I don’t mind Luke’s whispery vocals but they are usually the least interesting sound in every song. They could’ve benefitted from a second, more dynamic vocalist. He made it work well in the Bows albums with a female vocalist.

That drums and the way they produced them though. Reason enough to listen.

I feel like a douche saying “ my favorite thing from this obscure underground indie band is an obscure 7 inch single with songs that are not found in any of their albums” but Lipstick really might be my favorite one from them.

The original, non-remix version is miles better than the album version and might just be my favorite song from them. the drummer playing non-programmed drum n bass is more interesting and the finale with strings is gorgeous. CZ is a great instrumental too and feels a nice change to not have Luke’s vocals on top. And Love Life is surprisingly catchy coming from them and sounds like it’s intentionally (?) taking its bass groove from “White Lines”.

Saw Rev Magnetic in Dundee last night. Played six or seven songs, not more than half an hour, all excellent.

Felt like a mix of LFK and Bows, with the bass player contributing vocals, and odd bits of electronic drums. The two songs on bandcamp are pretty representative.

Loved the first two LFK albums... I play them occasionally, they still sound great.

Skimming thru this thread, I guess I should give Amelia another try... it didn’t click with me at the time, but ppl seem to like it!

You should, it's all good. There's a definite evolution in their sound but it all flows really well.

Saw LFK live way back when and liked 'em but haven't played the albums in ages. I should though. I should check out Rev Magnetic songs too

Stuart Braithwaite was on 6music earlier and mentioned that Rev Magnetic had just joined Rock Action.

New Rev Magnetic song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCit3jqPhy8

Album ('Versus Universe') out today, listening now and very much enjoying it. Nothing's hit me as immediately as "Like No Girl That Ever Was" (not on the album) but that set a pretty high bar. Maybe Bows re-cast as a rock band?

Looking forward to hearing it. Few months late on the last single:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MuW7hYEFOI