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― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:52 (six years ago) link
i don't miss the home button at all. i thought i would and yeah jeez i have never turned the X off myself--just checked, that's intuitive too, left and right buttons, tapface id is still kind of shit though
― alomar lines, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:30 (six years ago) link
voice dictation on iphones is fucking useless. always wrong words, usually wrong words that don’t make any contextual sense, transcription usually kicks in 3 seconds after you start talking. literally quicker to type a ream of text than try four failed voice dictations in a row.there is no reason for this six year old tech to be so fucking terrible. google nails it.
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:37 (six years ago) link
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2018/01/21/apple-iphone-x-buy-sales-specs-new-iphone-release-date/#490ff27e10cb
Goodbye iPhone X, we hardly knew ye
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:57 (six years ago) link
hm wow glad i held off
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:05 (six years ago) link
probably a stupid question but will they go on sale?
― the late great, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:11 (six years ago) link
might not if they are cutting off production early but not sure
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link
I have two ipod classics. The old one which I bought about ten years ago in nyc does not sync with my itunes library anymore. Apparently the battery pack is broken. I go to the Apple store in Berlin on a Saturday, i get an appointment ten days later, they are so busy. When i come to the appointment, the guy just plugs the ipod in his apple computer and tells me that it does not sync anymore and that they cannot do anything about it. Later on i find out that there are repair shops - who are not linked to apple - who replace broken battery packs for 49 euros. I also "like" the apple jargon "vintage" for products which are not produced anymore. They do not really offer any support more for them, they are only good for the museum in their eyes. I will hopefully never buy an apple product again.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:23 (six years ago) link
it sucks because there's still no viable replacement for the Classic on the market. I've still got mine and I'm dreading the day it dies. that said those 3rd party repair shops are usually quite good, that's the route I would go if I were you
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:26 (six years ago) link
ive got a dead 4th gen ipod i should look into getting it fixed up.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:30 (six years ago) link
honestly expecting a 10 year old piece of electronic equipment to be supported is kinda insane imo. ipods are not cast iron frying pans handed down from one generation to the next.
― 龜, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:32 (six years ago) link
the thing is they're still wildly popular and Apple has yet to come out with a viable replacement for them.
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:34 (six years ago) link
Having trouble following the logic of this in the Forbes article:
Meanwhile, I’d argue it’s a smart move canceling the iPhone X because its design will remain a flagship option (the 6.1-inch model is priced like the iPhone 8) rather than being discounted at one year old. Consequently, the 2017 iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 Plus will then take the role of cheaper understudies bringing simplification to a range, that has become increasingly convoluted in recent years.
― Luna Schlosser, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link
When they say "its design" do they mean in the form of a newer iPhone model that will have aspects of the X's design? If so, it makes sense.
― IF (Terrorist) Yes, Explain (man alive), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:39 (six years ago) link
― frogbs, Monday, January 22, 2018 5:34 PM (four minutes ago) Bookmark
wildly popular among a niche audience of enthusiasts you mean?
― 龜, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:40 (six years ago) link
yeah cant see the average person caring about classic ipods. everyone (mostly) has a phone with the same function (and more) at this point.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:44 (six years ago) link
for a 10 year old piece of hardware I'd say they're pretty popular
― frogbs, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:48 (six years ago) link
the article also says the replacement for the 4" SE will have a 6.1" screen so i'm not sure the guy's playing with a full deck
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:58 (six years ago) link
4S 4 life Fuck an X and a whatever plusIf you want to use two hands to hold a phone get a laptop
― calstars, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:09 (six years ago) link
i have a 6+ and never really use two hands.
― Spottie, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:11 (six years ago) link
I can successfully use the X while holding it and eating ramen with my other hand (chopsticks not my fingers, mind you) so ymmv
― mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:31 (six years ago) link
my sony walkman radio from the 80s still works
why shouldn't my newfangled ipod gadget from the 00s
― j., Monday, 22 January 2018 23:45 (six years ago) link
If you want to use two hands to hold a phone get a laptop
― calstars, Monday, January 22, 2018 3:09 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm
― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Monday, 22 January 2018 23:48 (six years ago) link
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― pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:20 (six years ago) link
apple did an incredible job marketing a phone with a whacking great notch in the screen, because for the first few weeks loads of buyers were loudly reassuring themselves that they weren’t even noticing the notch
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:25 (six years ago) link
also even i don’t care about the ipod classic any more, it’s old, apple is under no obligation to repair antiques
― rove mcmanus island (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:26 (six years ago) link
But to just brick them.
I have a scanner that worked fine until Apple issued a Mac update. It refuses to acknowledge my camera. Meanwhile, I can hook a PS3 to my television without any problems.
― pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:41 (six years ago) link
everyone (mostly) has a phone with the same function (and more) at this point
again, phones don't have the capacity of iPods, aren't useful for keeping collections with updated metadata, will shit battery life straight out if you play music on them (instead of lasting for days), and have wildly inferior UI
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 01:52 (six years ago) link
Multipurpose interfaces are a mistakeSingle-purpose little boxes instead of apps
― The Bridge of Ban Louis J (silby), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:01 (six years ago) link
Fuck an app
second that
― calstars, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 02:17 (six years ago) link
/everyone (mostly) has a phone with the same function (and more) at this point/again, phones don't have the capacity of iPods, aren't useful for keeping collections with updated metadata, will shit battery life straight out if you play music on them (instead of lasting for days), and have wildly inferior UI
― lefal junglist platton (wtev), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 05:46 (six years ago) link
my old ipod sounds better, true
― Spottie, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 05:54 (six years ago) link
― Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, January 22, 2018 8:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark
all of this is true but unfortunately streaming is king!
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 12:59 (six years ago) link
My phone has 256 GB. Everything else, I agree.
― Jeff, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 13:03 (six years ago) link
I am glad they've finally made something with bigger capacity than 128. I have the 160 GB iPod and I'm still constantly having to remove stuff to make room
agreed but it's kind of rare for a company to sundown a popular product and offer essentially no replacement
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:15 (six years ago) link
it's not a popular product!
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:46 (six years ago) link
it was when they killed it
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:53 (six years ago) link
An enterprise which wants to build a strong link with the customers should care for support. It would be easy for them to change the battery pack but the thing is it is financially not interesting, that is why they do not do it, I suppose. And I have decided for myself that I am not going to support this company who does not care for my interests anymore, it is as easy as that.
― Ich bin kein Berliner (alex in mainhattan), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link
Exactly. I have an iPhone now because it syncs with iTunes, which I still use because I bought an iPod 13 years ago. If my iPod had broken last year I'd probably have a Galaxy or something, would have migrated my entire music library elsewhere, and most likely never would have bought an Apple product again
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:02 (six years ago) link
(I'm on my 3rd Classic BTW, they last about 4-5 years which I think is pretty good given how much I use them)
I've switched to an Android, and you know what? I can use the spare cords I've got in my drawer to charge it. I can change the icons and mess around with the way the home screen looks. It's got a headphones plug, so all of these other accessories aren't just digital waste anymore. There's more variety in the apps I can download and use. It works across more platforms. It's great.
I mean, except for the fact that it's much more open to hackers and last night, I checked an Amazon tracking order and the pop-up window was in Mandarin Chinese. But hey, that's just part of its personality!
― pplains, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:05 (six years ago) link
enh I find just playing music doesn't drain the battery life of mine much, and SD card slots mean you can add a ton of space, maybe up to 2tb down the line (which is helpful for digital music havers like me who don't like to stream constantly)
― Simon H., Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
― frogbs, Tuesday, January 23, 2018 9:53 AM (fifteen minutes ago) Bookmark
there is literally a report from 2011 that shows ipod revenues declining precipitously
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/09/why-apple-is-ready-to-kill-off-the-ipod-classic/
These are realities that have lurked in the back of iPod fans' minds since the iPod touch first came out, and the sales numbers back them up. Apple's iPod sales growth has been dwindling for years now, with the quarterly unit declines beginning in mid-2009. The first three fiscal quarters of 2011 showed a seven, 17, and 20 percent year-over-year iPod unit declines respectively. But Apple says the iPod touch—when isolated away from the legacy players—is selling like hotcakes, which only means one thing: people just aren't into traditional iPods like they used to be.
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
xxp yea and then there's that. I really would love to pay $400+ for a discarded iPhone X one day just to use as a 256 GB music player, but then I gotta jump through hoops to actually play anything on it because it doesn't have a headphone jack. but I guess I'm not supposed to care about that because I'm stuck in the past
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:10 (six years ago) link
from 2013 https://www.wired.com/2013/09/goodbye-ipod-classic/
The iPod was once the shining star of Apple's product kingdom. Announced in 2001, iPod sales were growing, growing, growing up until they peaked in December 2008. Since then, they have been steadily slumping as many potential buyers go for the iPhone or other smartphones instead of a dedicated MP3 player. The numbers have gotten dismal enough that in its second-quarter financial results this year, Apple for the first time left iPod numbers out of the announcement entirely. In parallel, Apple has given the iPod less time in the limelight at its periodic keynote presentations.
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:14 (six years ago) link
again, popular is a relative term, I just think it's weird that they essentially did nothing for those customers
like, saying "get an iPhone and put in an SD card" would be good enough, except they won't play music off an SD card
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:21 (six years ago) link
lol 'why didn't apple commit resources to developing a new version of the product that was seeing steep declines in sales since 2008... i find that really weird'
come on guy
― 龜, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:24 (six years ago) link
sony has some pretty cool artisanal gold-plated audiophile digital file walkman units now
it's one of those things where I look at the specs, get super hyped, and then remember the trail of unloved electronic trash in my wake and that I really like my phone/bluetooth headphones
― mh, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:27 (six years ago) link
xp thats not really what I'm saying though
you want to cancel the iPod, fine
but you're still left with customers who want something that syncs with their iTunes music library and can store a lot of music. at the time the 'best' option was the 64 GB iPhone 5
this really shouldn't be hard, either increase storage or allow it to play music off SD cards like every other smartphone has been doing for years. alternatively you can continue to support and profit off repairs for the old Classics for a while, much like car dealers will continue to fix discontinued models. instead they just told people to shove it. kind of a weird strategy for a company whose entire business model is locking people in for life
― frogbs, Tuesday, 23 January 2018 15:38 (six years ago) link