ugh seriouslythat's awful
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
u_u
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link
i always sort of lumped them in with 10,000 maniacs (even though they had been around for longer)
Seriously? Oh, you mean even though 10,000 Maniacs had been around longer.
I thought of them, initially, as sort of like the Sundays, but not as good or as tasteful. Because by the follow-u[ album I thought of the Cranberries the same way I thought of Live.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:52 (six years ago) link
Mentioned before, by my fave weird bill was seeing the Cranberries open up for Frank Black opening up for The The in 1993.
Unconfirmed reports of deliberate Fentanyl o.d. coming in.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link
I gave the first two albums another spin today and still like 'em, and still stand by my opinion that 'Zombie' paved the way for a direction they weren't very good at. They were much better at the delicate numbers, and the production still holds up on the first two albums. What sunk their third record - and subsequently their career - was a combination of silly lyrics, inappropriate production and moving away from what people actually liked about them.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:18 (six years ago) link
yes. well, clearly some people liked the direction they went in or they wouldn't have continued to put out six or seven albums that go in that direction.
― akm, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link
All bands have their hardcore followers, and they're generally the wrong people to look at when assessing the popularity of a band.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link
Pretty much agree with Turrican. Loved these two records growing up and still do.
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:23 (six years ago) link
o'riordan's voice, specifically in the first album, sounds amazing in how it fades in and out during the bridge or whatever you want to call it
definitely reminiscent of elizabeth fraser at some parts
― infinity (∞), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:28 (six years ago) link
their lyrics have always been a bit crap, I never knew what any of them were in the first record then when I eventually looked them up I felt "oh." Lots of 'walking out through the door' etc
― kinder, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:43 (six years ago) link
Nah ode to my family and linger have great lyrics
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:44 (six years ago) link
― akm, Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:20 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
they didn’t though. bury the hatchet was v much a scaling back from to the faithful departed
their singles are generally solid throughout (even “salvation” which i think has a v charming velocity) except “time is ticking out”
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 20:51 (six years ago) link
there are the cranberry saw us demos on youtube from cassettes they released pretty good stuff
― bhad and bhabie (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:01 (six years ago) link
'Salvation' is a very good performance and topline, but I can never get past how awful the lyric is.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:11 (six years ago) link
Zombie is fine. as with many female musicians/celebrities many had a decent go at her when she had issues a few years back. it's pretty sad overall. idk. Dreams and Linger are better than a lot of the songs that probably inspired them. I always think of Chungking Express when I think of Dreams, even though it's a Faye Wong cover (extremely faithful to the original and therefore sublime.)
― omar little, Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:12 (six years ago) link
'Daffodil Lament' is probably the best song they ever did.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 21:18 (six years ago) link
I adore NNTA, really like EEIDISWCW, never heard the rest. I am going to admit right here and now that I played NNTA more often than anything else in my dorm room in 1995
― trife's rich padgett (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
I came up with a dozen goodies.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 03:41 (six years ago) link
10. Just My Imagination
that's a good one but i think i prefer "you and me" as a single from that record
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 03:45 (six years ago) link
Zombie being a huge hit was definitely a problem, the third record even has a terrible remake of it (Hollywood) and the whole thing feels like a mess with that edgier, rockier sound and the political posturing that feels awkward. They were really good at evoking nostalgia in ballad mode, which is why the best cut in there by a long shot is “when you’re gone”.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:10 (six years ago) link
Alfred you forgot “Wanted”
― treeship 2, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:18 (six years ago) link
listening back to the first album today I was struck by how much I used to love Waltzing Back. I don't think I've heard that song since probably 1994. Her Irish yelping really works on that.
― akm, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:25 (six years ago) link
Oh, interesting: "Zombie" is what everyone hates? That's the only one of the hits I ever really liked tbh and it still seems iconic of that time to me. Sad that she was so young.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 04:37 (six years ago) link
waltzing back is fucking great
― kolakube (Ross), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 05:07 (six years ago) link
I don’t hate Zombie... I hate what it did to them on the following album.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 06:26 (six years ago) link
last five or so songs on no need to argue are all wonderful
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 06:27 (six years ago) link
What really matters mystifies me is how the songwriting quality basically collapses for the entire stretch between “Ode To My Family” and that final remarkable home stretch.
Actually Everyone... seems really notable for its consistency given the band immediately became so inconsistent (though still capable of greatness) thereafter.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:28 (six years ago) link
― dorsalstop, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:51 (six years ago) link
I was listening to "Everybody Else Is Doing It" last night for the first time since the 90s. Very strong album, so dreamy and nostalgia-inducing. I really like "pretty" and "put me down"
― Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:54 (six years ago) link
RIP Dolores.
Dreams is an all-time favourite for me. The first album reminds me of moving to London in '93 and drinking with lots of Irish people.
I think Zombie was where a lot of people got off the bus. I remember they took some stick for releasing an anti-IRA protest song only a couple of weeks after the IRA ceasefire - like they could put the peace process at risk.
― Chunky Backgammon (onimo), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 11:06 (six years ago) link
I remember they took some stick for releasing an anti-IRA protest song only a couple of weeks after the IRA ceasefire - like they could put the peace process at risk.
LOL
― Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 11:10 (six years ago) link
Don't be daft - 'I Can't Be With You', 'Twenty One' and 'Empty' are three of the best tracks on there!
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 11:40 (six years ago) link
The first two LP's are near equal in consistency, and would be equal if 'Zombie' wasn't on there.
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 11:42 (six years ago) link
Yeah Sunday is a brilliant, giddy thing, i always thought it was called Sunday because it's their most obvious homage to The Sundays.
― piscesx, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 12:03 (six years ago) link
never pursued their albums but i had MTV for the mid 90s when they broke. i remember "Zombie" and "Linger" on constant rotation and i loved those songs.
last night i looked up the video to "Salvation" and holy crap yes there is the killer evil clown creeping at the window that haunted my dreams when i was a teen! i hadn't seen this video in 20 years, tbh im glad i didn't imagine it! really insane video. btw it's actually a pretty cool song
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 13:30 (six years ago) link
She looks seriously fucking ill in the video to 'Free to Decide' ...
― Full of bile and Blue Nile denial (Turrican), Wednesday, 17 January 2018 15:17 (six years ago) link
This is nice, despite the sort of creepy and/or on-the-nose overtones of a lyric about a hotel in London.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=229&v=AG1LGI0Gf_Y
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 7 February 2019 20:02 (five years ago) link
Four tracks into the new (and final) Cranberries album and admittedly I'm enjoying it a lot. For me, this is easily a better record than Roses... it might turn out to be their best since No Need to Argue, actually.
― Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Friday, 3 May 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link