Remake/Remodel: DC Rebirth so you don't have to

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i don't remember Hooty making it the early 2000s JSA run

Nhex, Monday, 15 January 2018 04:29 (six years ago) link

someone get geoff johns on the line, time for a grim-n-gritty hooty reboot

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

and there's my new screen name

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 16:36 (six years ago) link

whaaaaaaat

Nhex, Monday, 15 January 2018 16:55 (six years ago) link

please tell me that they really did the cheesy "i shall become.. a bat!" thing in the original comics

Nhex, Monday, 15 January 2018 16:56 (six years ago) link

it sounds like roy thomas retconning but it's apparently the real deal

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

AND THUS A LEGEND IS BORN

http://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Doctor-Midnite-DC-Comics-McNider-h1.jpg

soref, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:06 (six years ago) link

i just pulled the whole page so here go:
http://i.imgur.com/sHd7gVI.png

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:07 (six years ago) link

wonder is anyone ever worked out that Dr Mid-Nite, the superhero with an owl for a pet, is actually the alter-ego of "Dr McNider", the identical looking man with an owl for a pet

soref, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:12 (six years ago) link

I have to say that golden age hooty is very expressive for an owl who doesn't say anything apart from variations on "whoo", i.e that heavy lidded look of disdain he's giving Dr Mid-Nite on the penultimate panel of the origin story, the question mark in the previous panel that indicates he's hooting in a quizzical fashion etc

soref, Monday, 15 January 2018 17:22 (six years ago) link

love the loopy lateral thinking which leads dr mcnider to only barely rename himself after owl-based inspiration strikes rather than, y'know, calling himself owl-man

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 15 January 2018 17:54 (six years ago) link

Dr. Mid-Nite is a much cooler name tbf

Nhex, Monday, 15 January 2018 20:00 (six years ago) link

Who's that guy saying, "Gosh, Mid-Nite. I really identify with that"? That dialogue's so funny to me...

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:15 (six years ago) link

It's Professor Dark-Ness, who had a startlingly-similar 'I once was blind but now I see through the eyes of a little birdie friend' origin story.

Or I might be totally lying.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

Rebirth got really good after all I see

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:21 (six years ago) link

that’s dr mid-nite’s sidekick señor day-glo iirc

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:24 (six years ago) link

You guys!

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:29 (six years ago) link

Criminals are a cowardly lot... I shall become that which they fear... an owl
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4097/4919816496_01f54106ea.jpg

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:51 (six years ago) link

In all seriousness, I believe he's speaking to Hourman, whose power is basically getting really hopped up on homemade bennies, so the intense identification he's relating to Dr. Mid-Nite is a side-effect of what's commonly known as 'tweaking' (which might have been made clearer if Hourman were also sweating profusely and uncontrollably sniffing).

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 16 January 2018 19:53 (six years ago) link

oof

dc really just dgaf do they

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 11:50 (six years ago) link

I don't really get why they're doing this, unless it's just company policy to troll Alan Moore or anyone who's worked with him. Even if the original creators came back, these would be niche properties. Now they're just a subset of a niche.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 January 2018 13:07 (six years ago) link

I think you pretty much nailed their motives.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

it can only be deliberate trolling or gross incompetence, really

either way, not a great look for dc

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 13:12 (six years ago) link

particularly since either way it's hard not to interpret as evidence of creative bankruptcy - being reduced to resurrecting old properties created by someone who absolutely despises you and, as chuck says, were not exactly blockbuster successes in the first place should be mortally embarrassing for everyone involved

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 13:16 (six years ago) link

it's just bizarre to take promethea, a character developed explicitly so moore could explore esoteric magical interpretations of the qabalah, and graft her into a justice league

like what is this character gonna bring that, say, doctor fate wouldn't? it's not energised new readers desperate to read the further adventures of promethea, that's for sure

grim-n-gritty hooty reboot (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 22 January 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

that was the one character I figured they'd leave alone, but you know... DC

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 15:12 (six years ago) link

You know that this was a cynical, top-down decision because I highly doubt any creator who read and was invested in Promethea and wanted to explore the character further would float the idea of doing so via Justice League membership.

I genuinely fail to understand why J.H. Williams works with DC at all anymore (I mean, sure, $$$, but still).

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:25 (six years ago) link

a lot of people just really like making things that are seen by a ton of people in the mass market, even if it means having a corporate boss

the boss is always a boss, never your friend, and you have to expect them to do shitty boss-like things, because they don't work for you but for the nebulous corporate entity

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 15:37 (six years ago) link

I get that in a general sense, but they've kinda dicked him over directly a couple of times now.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 15:41 (six years ago) link

genuinely fail to understand why J.H. Williams works with DC at all anymore

What has he agreed to do with them after 2012? Some variant covers?

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:39 (six years ago) link

Apart from writing all those Rebirth crossovers under the name Geoff Johns, obv

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:40 (six years ago) link

Maybe he isn't doing work for them currently but he did Sandman: Overture after the Batwoman fiasco.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Monday, 22 January 2018 19:59 (six years ago) link

Did anyone read Tom Strong? I've never been a Chris Sprouse fan - he's a good storyteller, but there's something creepy about the way he draws faces. I remember reading the first book - it seemed like every public library in the world had a copy of Tom Strong in 2004 - but seemed pretty dull compared to Top 10, or the first couple of Promethea & LOEG books.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 22 January 2018 22:17 (six years ago) link

Maybe he isn't doing work for them currently but he did Sandman: Overture after the Batwoman fiasco.

So he fulfilled a contract he'd signed long before they fucked him over, then never worked for them again? That's exactly the opposite of him working for them anymore.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

i liked tom strong fine; it was basically moore's take on 60's-70's superman and that was fun

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 22 January 2018 22:28 (six years ago) link

most of us mortals don't know when people signed contracts or whatever but yeah, that seems like some bad blood

mh, Monday, 22 January 2018 23:28 (six years ago) link

in July 2012 he indicated that he'd signed on to Overture around August 2011.

he quit Batwoman on September 4th, 2013.

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 00:01 (six years ago) link

Which just proves my point. Case closed. You're welcome.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

Sorry: you were right, sic, and I was wrong.

the smartest persin in the room (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 00:12 (six years ago) link

😀👍

Haribo Hancock (sic), Tuesday, 23 January 2018 00:59 (six years ago) link

The third issue of Doomsday Clock was so bad, Aldo should do a thread about it

I enjoyed the first two, in a mostly guilty way

The third issue was the "everything you were afraid of, but worse" issue

Obviously I will carry on reading it

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:38 (six years ago) link

spoilers pls!

your skeleton is ready to hatch (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:39 (six years ago) link

I paged through the first one and thought it was horrible, is there at least blatant shitting on Watchmen instead of the faux-reverence?

mh, Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:46 (six years ago) link

Highlights include

* Clowns with invisible guns

* Clowns with knives for hands

* Old man Johnny Thunder stares out of a window for 8 pages

* Ozymandias and The Comedian's salute to Kirk Douglas's action scenes in The Fury

* Your ol' pal Geoff Johns reprises his greatest hits of limb dismemberment

* Comedian Stewart Lee guest stars

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:54 (six years ago) link

it's so bad

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Thursday, 25 January 2018 21:55 (six years ago) link


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