Rolling Interminable 6Music Daytime Canon

thank you for putting your finger on a thing that makes me grind my teeth

tbh if you're listening to Radio 6 on a Friday evening maybe reconsider your life anyway

― coombespair gaz prices (Noodle Vague), Friday, January 12, 2018 3:09 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is true, but it's also a case of is this the best they can come up with? Rave nostalgia is problematic, I know, but at least play something fun!

It's fair to recall that Peel was not only avant-garde but also suburban / comfortable / familiar -- as in a long-ago ILX thread debate about his Radio 4 programme, Radio Times column, etc. I remember some of his late broadcast work as being rather predictable -- always ready to host a big session with Camera Obscura, etc.

In that particular sense he is closer to eg Gideon Coe or other 6music than one might think.

The thread !!

Home Truths

re: the Radio 6 awestruck voice. One of the first threads I started on ILM was moaning about this exact thing: DJs you love to hate

Right now, LAMMO is starting his programme with 'Teenage Kicks'.

In many ways, it's in the spirit of the late, great John Peel.

lol

He then stated that this week has been 90s WEEK: with the theme: 'records from the 1990s that you never hear on the radio anymore'.

cue Shed 7

They are back!

it's like they never went away

Last time I heard Lammo he was interviewing the Senseless Things for like 4 hours or something. This was a couple of months back

you still suffering from those weird dreams then, DL?

There's a disconnect between what the daytime presenters talk about and what they play, which I find irritating. Like Thundercat winning their presenters' album of the year poll, but before that win I'd never heard any of them play anything off that album ever. And at the moment there's a really simpering indie track that's just a knock-off of Fleetwood Mac on heavy rotation, and they're all going nuts over Shame, who just sound like Hard-Fi, so there's as much annoying playlisting going on as at any other mainstream radio station (obviously). The over-earnest quiet enthusiasm is definitely a house style, too, and I find it a bit sick-in-my-mouth most of the time even if I quite like what;s being enthused about.

And that's the thing, there isn't anywhere else where I can turn the radio on and be confident I'll get a favourable ratio of stuff I like to hear. I doubt I'd have heard Ratio by Floating Points on any other daytime station last year, for instance. Yes, they pander to 90s kids now in their late 30s and 40s by playing The Bluetones or Shed Seven every so often, but there is at least an attempt to broaden horizons too.

I feel like they should be bold and stop having a playlist entirely. The existence of one seems to go against the whole supposed ethos of the station.

I don't like that 'house style', but am unsure if it's really that common. Riley, Radcliffe, Huey Morgan (!), Iggy Pop (?!) don't do it?

I think for me it comes down more to M A Hobbs having a peculiar voice.

I tend to agree about 'playlist' stuff -- why do they need one at all? The repetitiveness of it is tiresome and it usually feels like they're promoting mediocrity; which they're not when they veer off it.

(G Coe doesn't play to any playlist.)

Last night Coe played 'coney island baby' - it sounded like a different version to me, the lead guitar was so elaborate - but perhaps it was just the same old version and it had never shone through so much. It sounded epic. I suppose it was a good use of radio, even though in theory I could have played the song myself.

TBF only LAMMO really plays old Bluetones + Shed Seven records! I think others would be too embarrassed to do that.

Guardian last week said SHAME are the greatest new guitar band. Have not heard but from the report, must be abysmal.

The playlist seems completely arbitrary, all these songs by minor indie bands with no wider impact at all being hammered to death while so much similar stuff gets ignored. I probably enjoyed more indie last year than I did in the last decade but I don't remember hearing Sacred Paws or Hannah Peel or the Weather Station on there at all.

I never put any radio station on at home but we have 6music on in the office and while there's a 50:50 mix of decent stuff and utter shit, the station as a whole is just insufferably smug and self-congratulatory. This sense of preserving the flame of "underground" and "new music" as defined by tastemakers in their 40s and 50s. At one point there was an ad with one of the Marks going "it's great that 6music still plays underground music because no-one else does", which was admirable for its sheer brass neck if nothing else.

xps I've not really listened to 6music in years so I didn't realise that the Mary Ann-Hobbs awestruck voice had become a house style, I always thought of the 6music house style as being the John Peel-esque wry mildly blokey northerner? I guess you can synthesise the two e.g. Professor Brian Cox

There was a time a couple of years ago when I used to turn on 6Music on a regular basis and I heard some bloody awful song by The Coral every time. It put me off listening to the station entirely. I find it hard to believe that presence on a playlist is not down to payola.

payola feels...unlikely?...on the BBC nowadays. whereas having some people with awful taste picking songs they think other people with awful taste will enthuse about seems more likely

It's also the increasing desperation of people who want British guitar music to come back as that prospect appears more remote than ever.

For the sake of convenience I'm overlooking the sort of rock music that gets played on Radio 1 than these guys wouldn't touch with a bargepole.

I'm honestly baffled what anybody sees in the sound of "British guitar music" post about 1990 but chacun a son gout. it feels like a small minority to get their own national radio station tho.

"sees in the sound" lol

I dunno it's just boredom use other noises please

I'm honestly baffled what anybody sees in the sound of "British guitar music" post about 1990

Post-1980 and I might agree with you.

I was being dead generous

I know how you all hate it when I talk about broad churches like they're just one thing

i'm not making any claims other than i don't want to go to church

6Music is basically about easing the slide into dementia - nice friendly nursey voices, music that takes you back to the happy days of your youth, stick to the familiar, don't confuse your patients with all this new modern stuff, keep away especially from new black music unless you want that one resident to go off on some awful racist monologue, you can play the old unthreatening stuff though, a bit of funny party music before we brew up some horlicks

Does every tedious Elbow single still get A-listed for some reason

I think this song by 'This Is The Kit' might be the worst thing I've ever heard, and I've heard that Belle and Sebastian single with the oboe solo.

lol half their Wikipedia page is about how much 6Music wuvs them

Re "Different/Unfamiliar versions"

They do seem to substitute a "Radio 1 Session" version for the "familiar/single" version whenever possible. I reckon its because they save on paying for "NeedleTime"...

I remember Jarvis playing something that turned out to be a weird session version and apologising afterwards - "we'll find the proper version and play it next week"

I find myself in the unusual position of wanting to defend 6music. Well bits of it anyway. Don't have a problem with MA Hobgoblin's voice and she plays some v nice stuff weekend mornings. Most recent playlist is pretty solid for a breakfast show I think (if you ignore RHCPs, Artic Monkeys) http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09mhyr8

Everything but the Girl
Each and Every One

Sunflower Bean
I Was A Fool

Abul Mogard
Above All Dreams

Tom Waits
Back In The Crowd

The Pioneers
Long Shot Kick De Bucket

King Krule
Biscuit Town

Nas
The World Is Yours

Insecure Men
Teenage Toy

The Stone Roses
Waterfall

The Go! Team
Mayday

Sam & Dave
I Thank You

St. Vincent
New York

Nightports with Matthew Bourne
Exit

Red Hot Chili Peppers
The Zephyr Song

Nadine Shah
Evil

Warren G & Nate Dogg
Regulate

Baxter Dury
Prince Of Tears

Otis Redding
Hard to Handle

Kendrick Lamar & SZA
All The Stars

Hot Chip
Night & Day

Anna Calvi
Suzanne And I

Laura Marling
Don't Pass Me By

Billy Bragg
A New England

Beck
Dear Life

Pangea
Router

The Creatures
Miss The Girl

Arctic Monkeys
Fluorescent Adolescent

Boy Azooga
Face Behind Her Cigarette

Sly & The Family Stone
Everyday People

Sylvan Esso
Hey Mami

Jamie xx
Far Nearer

Gengahr
Carrion

Sylvan Esso
PARAD(w/m)E

Commodores
I Feel Sanctified

Basement Revolver
Bread & Wine

Jimi Hendrix
Purple Haze

Sunflowers
Signal Hill

Deftones
Be Quiet And Drive (Far Away)

Ghostpoet
Many Moods At Midnight

Aukia
Colorado

Richard Hawley
Darlin'

Invisible Minds
Yo Mae Leh

Big Audio Dynamite
E=MC2

Etta James
I'd Rather Go Blind

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I'd rather go deaf myself

lol

can't say I much approve of that playlist

Richard Hawley is one of those people who must have a stash of incriminating material on the DG, there's no other explanation as to why he still gets airtime (see also: Guy Garvey)

I was going to agree with Stevie T, then realized I actually haven't heard most of the things on that list.

But in principle I still agree with Stevie T.

DESERT ISLAND DISCO

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09l8dh2

Today's DESERT ISLAND DISCO is Mod / Northern Soul focused. I welcome this.

It is odd how people still think 6music is all mediocre rock.

It definitely does play mediocre rock.

But right now, before noon on a Friday, it is playing a long instrumental in some kind of experimental techno genre. The last two tracks were also instrumentals in some kind of related fields.

In fact LL hasn't played any 'rock' for at least half an hour or so.

Now it's a First Aid Kit session. Country?

Lauren Laverne has better and more diverse/interesting taste than most of them do. It's when you get to Radcliffe and Lamacq in the afternoons that it gets really bad.

I agree that they are different.

LL: 5 x 3 hours per week, + her 6music recommends slot = LL takes up a big chunk of the 6music schedule every week!

All daft blather at breakfast time this morning more than made up for by appearance of Make Me Believe In You by Patti Jo. And Pigs etc.

LL starts with Pavement 'Cut Your Hair' followed by an average playlist-heavy-rotation rock track.

Then 20 minutes of mostly dance-music-oriented records.

Then an archive session track from ... Death Cab For Cutie. A band I have never known.

It's quite good!

She is now playing a series of 'UK Garage Monday Motivators'.

Amusing !!

x-posts. I recall Peel playing the Echo and the Bunnymen version of "People Are Strange" and saying something like "That's a very collectable record. In fact, it's going straight to the second-hand record shop."

Just heard Cerys Matthews on radio. While not so keen on her, I can see how the eclectic roots music - blues, Trinidad folk, Cuban, Irish - is valued by listeners.

Stew's take

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/16/britain-is-a-dying-nation-in-need-of-new-curators

I quite like Lee's article, and it's nice to see public support for some good things, but I don't think his description of 6music or the role of those particular programmes is especially accurate.

cleeve hill represent

Jack Saunders' 'Glasto' presenting outfit was really something
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FWHpH10UUAIsSlP.jpg

oh that guy

The Leys School, Cambridge

Board & Tuition (From September 2022)
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Yeah, that's the guy. Completely vile. He's not yet on 6music, to be fair, but as the host of "Radio 1's Indie Show", he'll be heading that way in the end.

Oh shit, I went to that school!

Ok, so you're presenting Glastonbury soon?

(gotta love threads you can find by searching for a single word, as long as you know that word...)

New to the playlist 🔁 Here's what we will be giving a spin this week, with new music from...

👉 @PJHarveyUK
👉 Gabriels
👉 @SaySheShe
👉 @jungle4eva
👉 + MORE

Listen on @bbcsounds: https://t.co/Bg9I3EPwkD pic.twitter.com/irumoO7M48

— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) June 19, 2023

Nitin Sawnhey hacking the playlist by working with that one bloke

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/p0ftp7pt

The Rise and Fall of Britpop

Jo Whiley and Steve Lamacq document the rise and fall of Britpop. Celebrating Blur, Oasis, Pulp and more with fresh interviews and unheard personal archive.

yeah, listened to it. it is exactly what you would expect.

christ

Trenchant

This analogy from Steve Lamacq on Blur vs Oasis is 🤯

Listen to The Rise and Fall of Britpop now on @BBCSounds https://t.co/nSVCi3wavk pic.twitter.com/8xn5Kt3Kro

— BBC Radio 6 Music (@BBC6Music) July 13, 2023

Thank god for that

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/steve-lamacq-bbc-6-music-quit-b2403761.html

Best news I've read all week (probably). The one current 6 Music show above all others that I absolutely cannot bear listening to.

I wonder how his family feel about it

I like Huw Stephens!

"Today is Steve (Lamacq)'s final daily weekday programme after 20 years on 6 Music."