Terminator 6 aka the real Terminator 3 or something oh god when will it end

the three or four lonely posters who watched the tv show had a nice little thread about it, iirc

oh, I was there

I think the several of the different science fiction/horror franchises have gone through the same pattern:
The horror of the other (monster) -> Acceptance, or a Cyclical, repetitive struggle against what was the other -> A merging with the other

Both the Terminator and Alien series did this over four chapters, although Ridley Scott is trying to create some overarching cycle (Prometheus/Alien Covenant) where man's creation nurtured the initial horror, and Terminator has always had the subtext that the horror is a creation of humanity that becomes the other

There's also the internal subtext in Alien with androids and The Company, so its subtext there is... Terminator's text?

Then you have Blade Runner that kicks off with The Other is Us and in a somewhat uninspired fashion returns decades later to drive the point home further

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyEX6u-Yhs

Schwarzenegger did some brief AMA-style posting over on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/bs2n3o/were_back_heres_your_terminator_dark_fate_trailer/

was it really necessary to have someone record a moody piano cover of björk's "hunter"

regardless this looks way less horrible and idea-bankrupt than genysis but uh low bar

i'm excited for the part where we see the terminator finally try to kill sarah connor

The secret surprise in this one is that not only does the Terminator's skin get ripped off to reveal a robotic endoskeleton but that skeleton is itself peeled away to reveal a miniature version of Arnold Schwarzenegger feverishly working a complex system of levers and pulleys.

Thank god the guy who made Avatar is bsck in the saddle this time

the guy who made deadpool is in the saddle, the guy who made avatar is the guy providing the horse

or perhaps more accurately, flogging a horse that looks distinctly unwell

"director of deadpool" really does make this DOA, even with my extremely positive experience watching another cameron-produced film this year

the CGI looks ghastly, i thought people had gotten better at this sort of thing

terminator is basically a franchise for people who like leather jackets and automobile stunts, this sort of thing should be easy

definite plus points to whoever was like, "oh yeah, remember linda hamilton"

there are no bad terminator projects, only bad alternative timelines explored by terminator projects

I also have no idea what I was smoking when I revived this thread in January '18 but I want some of it

and holy shit, Brad wasn't kidding. why would you do this to a Bjork song?

terminator is the worst franchise somehow.

Well, the first two are ace, but that was before they morphed into franchise mode, I guess.

I hope the entire new movie is slow-mo and ramping.

I think part of it is that they hint at the rich narrative promise of a dystopian future controlled by time-travelling robots seeking to destroy humanity but then chain each installment to the notion that the only stories worth following are those that involve an increasingly-aged Arniebot and his adventures with the Connor family.

constant slow moody piano covers of women empowerment pop songs performed by men
"Nasty.... Nasty Boys... Don't Mean... A Thing..." *plinka plinka plinka*

where’s john connor

Furlong's 1991 facial likeness from Terminator 2: Judgment Day will be used in flashback scenes through the use of CGI in Terminator: Dark Fate (2019).

Something along these lines I imagine

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I like the idea of the Terminator series being like a sci-fi "Up" series, with the aging cast gathering every 7 years to reboot the movie again.

pretty weak

the CGI looks ghastly, i thought people had gotten better at this sort of thing

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

Its weird how CGI in action & sci fi movies can still suck in 2019. Its like the quality of it stays the same but the amount per film just increases.

How have the Terminator 2 FX held up? I know the practical stunts are still great.

t2 still looks astonishing imo

but it's hard for me to be objective about it

it's been a while since i listened to the cameron commentary track (which is really, really great, and gives you a sense of how they made a great story out of all these different moving parts, and how even though the theatrical release is 2+ hours long all of the editing choices they made were perfect, and how the original ending was so, so terrible) but iirc he points out a lot of the instances of cgi and it's really the way the computer graphics interact with the practical effects that keeps them looking good and natural

yeah, t2 still looks great because cameron made very, very smart choices about how and when to use cgi, and as sparingly as possible

T2 remains absurdly good -- the months leading up to its release were full of such anticipation amongst myself and my dirtbag friends that anything short of a masterpiece would have disappointed, and it didn't. it was sold heavily on the CGI but its pace and directing is what keeps it a classic to this day. Cameron is a genuinely amazing filmmaker in terms of plot structure and action and character types and getting memorable performances from his cast. his dialogue can often be a hard sell (increasingly so over time) but the films are top notch because all the parts are calibrated precisely. we can joke about Avatar and Titanic but those films as ridiculous as they can be are also shockingly non-boring.

i think his weakest film is True Lies in all respects.

also re: t2, they flew a real fuckin helicopter under a bridge in the highway chase scene

never fails to blow my mind

yeah, there’s so much gross gender and race stuff in true lies

true lies was a rough rewatch scriptwise but as a collection of action setpieces it is still pretty hot shit

but the misogyny kinda feels like a betrayal

knowing now that eliza dushku was molested by true lies’ stunt coordinator is also very much not in its favour

oh god i forgot about that

the Jamie Lee Curtis striptease scene is extremely creepy, i mean it's a nightmare for her character.

i remember feeling really uncomfortable during that scene as a kid and the discomfort did not wane

that scene and Arnold bringing down the full power of the CIA so he could make Bill Paxton pee his pants or w/e was going on there.

it’s a very weird midlife crisis of a movie - it’s so specific in its strangeness that it feels in some ways like cameron’s most personal film, and if that is the case it doesn’t reflect well on him at all

movie could be a polemic about how men are all just shit but it is not that

just remembered that a nuke is detonated in the florida keys in true lies

what a weird fuckin’ movie

lmao

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NhakUzw52Cw/V0h7J5jowlI/AAAAAAAA5Qs/DRV5iZdgzFEPQsIHJ734uDhQjLXfCc5wACKgB/s1600/true%2Blies40.jpg

this got brought up in another ilx thread just a few months ago, possibly a cameron-related one

GnR gonna have a Taco Bell cassingle giveaway promotion for “You Could Be Mine 2”

Yeah the CGI looks bad. I'll be glad when we're past the thing of having CGI-assisted fight scenes where it's obvious that it's just two little CGI sprites jumping around each other.

weird that one John Wick director stayed on Wick to shoot fights and stunts and choreo in-camera as much as possible (with comedy digital squibs), and the other one has headed off to do 50%-CGI films all the time

One the one hand, great to have a 62yo woman as lead in an action film. On the other hand, everything else.

whoops, it's the Deadpool director, not the Deadpool 2 director