Cardiacs: Classic or Dud?

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MaresNest, Wednesday, 10 January 2018 16:47 (one year ago) Permalink

One of the great toys of rock music, along with The Top

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:05 (one year ago) Permalink

Wonder if someone could build a track around a full Screwball Scramble run

#TeamHailing (imago), Wednesday, 10 January 2018 17:06 (one year ago) Permalink

Hello everyone,

This message is sent as a means of explanation for the non-arrival of stuff you may have ordered from The Consultant's Memorabilia Collection.

Tim Smith has been in the hospital since last Sunday and I have been part of a team of close friends and family supporting NHS staff to provide the best care possible in a severely overstretched system. He is never without someone to advocate for him or hold his hand from early morning until late at night. This means that it has become almost impossible to send out orders. As soon as there is a moment in my schedule, I will start posting - I promise!

In the meantime, the love that is still pouring in is being transmitted directly to him through any channel deemed efficacious at the time. Sometimes, we just tell him with wormbs.

Please know that your purchases are important to me and will be sent as soon as is humanly possible.

Stay focused!

With love and respect,

linee, Wednesday, 17 January 2018 05:26 (one year ago) Permalink

reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:30 (one year ago) Permalink

More than 80% of the way there, truly great to see.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 January 2018 02:40 (one year ago) Permalink

He'll make it fairly soon I'd have thought, if only maybe because of the ppl that will throw in a little more after their next few payday cycles.

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:17 (one year ago) Permalink

...and the goodwill messages are getting more and more random too, which bears out my theory lol.

MaresNest, Thursday, 18 January 2018 11:19 (one year ago) Permalink

Wow even Mike Love got in on the action

frogbs, Thursday, 18 January 2018 13:43 (one year ago) Permalink

some cardiacs thing here as part of this weekend's freak zone

"Stuart hears new information about the long-term illness of Cardiacs singer Tim Smith from his bandmate Kavus Torabi. Tim has battled with a rare brain disorder since suffering a cardiac arrest 10 years ago, the full details of his condition and how it has affected him have not been made public until now..."

have just started listening and there's a cardiacs track about an hour in so maybe ffwd to that.

koogs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 08:54 (one year ago) Permalink

(starts about 43 minutes in)

koogs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:11 (one year ago) Permalink

wait, a new track?!

imago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:13 (one year ago) Permalink

noh, a classic from old - I was listening at the time. I don't know the Cardiacs stuff beyond "is this the life", but I believe someone prompted his favourite ever Cardiacs track so.

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:23 (one year ago) Permalink

which one is it?

imago, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:24 (one year ago) Permalink

it's on the link i posted!

Dirty Boy

tim's situation does sound grim, the stuff of nightmares.

koogs, Tuesday, 30 January 2018 13:40 (one year ago) Permalink

two months pass...

chihuahuau, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:36 (one year ago) Permalink

have been enjoying myself there, yes! although the only one I hadn't heard every second of was the MAMSAMD album

imago, Friday, 30 March 2018 13:57 (one year ago) Permalink

one month passes...

Really enjoyed Heaven Born And Ever Bright. Hard to choose favorites.
Its like the little creatures from The Stranglers MenInBlack intro migrated to the last track of this and are being flushed out.
The S sounds in "She Is Hiding Behind The Shed" are a bit too high pitched.

Cant believe I bought 13 of these albums in late 2014 and still only listened to less than half of them, shame on me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 May 2018 20:32 (eleven months ago) Permalink

she is hiding behind the shed -> march -> goodbye grace -> anything i can't eat

imago, Friday, 4 May 2018 20:53 (eleven months ago) Permalink

T'was the first Cardiacs record I bought, on cassette from Tower in Piccadilly on a visit to London as a youngster

Helen And Heaven and March are two of my favourite Cardiacs tracks, but I find that record can sometimes be a bit of a tough listen, it's quite middle-y sounding.

MaresNest, Friday, 4 May 2018 22:50 (eleven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

Man this new Craolya Lectern record is pretty neat!

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 09:27 (ten months ago) Permalink

Cardiacsy thread next time - it even has your name in the title! Bumping this one always gives me a Tim Smith Update tingle, or a New Convert frisson

That said, thanks, I will surely listen the heck out of this :)

imago, Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:54 (ten months ago) Permalink

Oh wait this has actual Cardiacs members on it. Pedantry withdrawn haha

imago, Saturday, 26 May 2018 10:58 (ten months ago) Permalink

Nah, you have a point though, I should have put it elsewhere, even if it is tiny Bob Leith, pretty as a picture...

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 16:35 (ten months ago) Permalink

Helen And Heaven and March are two of my favourite Cardiacs tracks, but I find that record can sometimes be a bit of a tough listen, it's quite middle-y sounding.

― MaresNest, Friday, May 4, 2018 11:50 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I actually made my own "fixed" version of HBAEB with the bass lifted and the mid-range softened. Obviously not as good as a properly supervised remaster would be, but it does the job when I'm out and about and don't fancy having my eardrums wrecked every time a track crops up on my MP3 player.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Saturday, 26 May 2018 18:38 (ten months ago) Permalink

I did this just the other day with a record by the band Eight Storey Window that has a really terrible cheap, pingy snare that goes straight through me.

MaresNest, Saturday, 26 May 2018 19:05 (ten months ago) Permalink

I've never had any issues with the mix on that album. Is it a CD mastering problem? I usually listen to it on the old vinyl copy or the cassette which I taped from the vinyl (in my ancient car).

everything, Saturday, 26 May 2018 21:27 (ten months ago) Permalink

I had to do that with this obscure punk band the Absentees. Their track on Killed By Death #7 is muddy as hell but the official CD reissue goes completely the opposite and is extremely trebly instead. I had to edit it in Cool Edit to boost the bass to make a listenable version

Colonel Poo, Saturday, 26 May 2018 23:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

I've never thought that Heaven Born or StG were the best sounding records but the production is a small part of what makes them distinct; anyway no mattter how harsh and trebly they are you can still hear the bass so it's OK by me.

obnoxious pun (ultros ultros-ghali), Sunday, 27 May 2018 09:29 (ten months ago) Permalink

I always thought that the sound of StG and HBaEB were a result of the limitations of Tim's home studio plus how his own brain reacts to mid freqs, you can hear it also in some (but not all) of the records he produced and recorded. he def has a way of mixing that can sometimes be a little pushy in that spectrum.

They're not, by any means, full of screeching mids, he balances quite tricky middle frequencies (mostly guitar blare) fairly well, but as my own ears get older they're less well equipped to handle certain mids, so I tend to watch what I'm doing to preserve it.

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 10:06 (ten months ago) Permalink

The '95 reish of HBAEB (I always read that as Hey Babe!) is supposedly utterly trashed and distorted for some reason (something to do with a bucket and some nails....)

The recent vinyl and digital versions are I believe from the '92 master which is quite light on bass but not too bad at all, jt's appropriate to the style and what he intended.

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:04 (ten months ago) Permalink

STG frustrates me a bit on that front. It is just a little harsh in those mids and my ears are also very sensitive to that. My preferred way to listen has become a normal position cassette of a CD-R rip of the vinyl ;-)

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:08 (ten months ago) Permalink

Whenever this thread is bumped I'm expecting news of an obscurities or live recordings dump on Bandcamp.

Ditzy Scene and Faster Than Snakes should appear at some point. What else is missing (apart from LSD)?

Absolute Unit Delta Plus (Noel Emits), Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:15 (ten months ago) Permalink

One day, the original A Balloon For Bertie's Party will emerge in its best-prog-song-by-a-teenager-ever glory

imago, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:18 (ten months ago) Permalink

StGs big secret is that it's all drum machine apparently.

MaresNest, Sunday, 27 May 2018 11:49 (ten months ago) Permalink

Every beat was sequenced, it's a library of sampled Bob.

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Sunday, 27 May 2018 12:52 (ten months ago) Permalink

Thanked by Cardiacs-hating record store employees for buying one of the band’s LPs because “our boss loves them and now he can’t play this in the shop anymore.”

— Andy Zax (@andyzax) June 6, 2018

mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 16:41 (ten months ago) Permalink

He'll find a way

imago, Wednesday, 6 June 2018 19:17 (ten months ago) Permalink

three months pass...

Guns seems pretty laid back for this band despite some typically energetic tracks. Or did Sing To God have this same balance?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 September 2018 10:33 (seven months ago) Permalink

It's definitely quieter but the emotions and the compositions are just as intense. It's a very tragic and mysterious album - very inspired by Night Of The Hunter

imago, Saturday, 15 September 2018 10:51 (seven months ago) Permalink

Had no idea about that. Wikipedia says it's utilized in a cut-up technique way, so perhaps not exactly inspired but just spliced in?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 15 September 2018 11:45 (seven months ago) Permalink

three weeks pass...

It is now nigh on nine months since the start of the Just Giving campaign, and perhaps high time for an update on how things have been going for Tim since then.
Unfortunately, at around the time of the launch, Tim became seriously ill, and it has taken him a while to get his strength back. Thankfully though, in the last couple of months his health has improved enough to start his rehabilitation in earnest.

So he now has:
*A Speech and Language Therapist
*A neuro-physiotherapist
*A masseuse
*A Feldenkrais therapist
*A Support Assistant to help with the everyday stuff
...and his own PA to coordinate things for him.

As well as this, he has a new state-of-the-art touch screen computer, and access to the resources needed to enable him to attend gigs more often.
Tim is at the beginning of what we hope will be an exciting journey for him, and it's all down to the financial support given, with love, by you.

With love from Mary x

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 10:48 (six months ago) Permalink


It's one of those things - if a 6Music show begins with "is this the life", I fear the worst thesedays. Thankfully, it's just that it's "time to play that record"

Mark G, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:01 (six months ago) Permalink

The JustGiving is still open so I'll bump it here:

(hopefully this will also remind to chip in again later)

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 11:47 (six months ago) Permalink

Would be amazing if those of us who care could keep him afloat with the yearly care costs as long as is required.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 13:56 (six months ago) Permalink

was really heartwarming to see a bunch of people donate to that campaign under famous musicians' names with a message about how inspired they were by him

I think I did three of the Monkees

frogbs, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:01 (six months ago) Permalink

Oh smart! I'm totally going to do that from now on.

MaresNest, Tuesday, 9 October 2018 14:16 (six months ago) Permalink

From the Royal Conservatoire Of Scotland's FB page -

The man who inspired musicians Blur, Radiohead and Biffy Clyro is to be honoured at the RCS winter graduation on October 25. Tim Smith of the Cardiacs is to receive an Honorary Doctor of Music to celebrate his remarkable contribution to the music industry.

MaresNest, Friday, 19 October 2018 17:57 (six months ago) Permalink

Sweet. Congrats, doc.

Walter Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:31 (six months ago) Permalink

That said, FFS the man's contribution does not mainly consist of inspiring a bunch of more famous bands. Inevitable but ridiculous that Cardiacs (or anyone, really) should be framed like that. The Radiohead thing is highly spurious anyway so there's no need to hold him even partly responsible for that!

Walter Wegmüller Fruit Corner (Noel Emits), Friday, 19 October 2018 18:42 (six months ago) Permalink

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