Wolverine: Why is he so popular?

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He was able to order drinks when he was 17? A power that would have some appeal to teenagers...

Oh come on, every other teenage girl has that power... It's called make-up and cleavage.

Tuomas (Tuomas), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

TS: Forge vs Cypher

Let's see -

Forge - had a cool robot hand, could build a tank out of crisp packets like the A Team, boned Storm

Cypher - could speak Estruscan and boned Warlock

I would say Forge, though it was quite interesting to have Cypher as a superhero with a superpower that is absolutely no good in a Fite

Mark C (Markco), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Cypher a lot more than Forge - he's just a more appealing character for one, and his power makes more sense than Forge's, which I think is too broad and ill-defined, not to mention totally wasted on building guns and holographic apartments.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:25 (eighteen years ago) link

BKV used Forge to great effect in Mystique!

Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Friday, 14 October 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the easiest explanation for the whole "eating yourself" nonsense that Wolverine likes to make up crazy stories?

The Yellow Kid, Friday, 14 October 2005 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the easiest explanation for the story that the writer flunked all his science classes?

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Are we seriously talking about the second law of thermodynamics as it pertains to a universe where there's a dude who generated copies of himself every time someone punches him too hard?

The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Why not?

Einstein: "Then again, e=mc^2 may only be a local phenomenon."

William Paper Scissors (Rock Hardy), Sunday, 16 October 2005 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

The thing is, you just accept the powers as they are until the writer tries to explain them. Wolverine can regenerate any damage - okay, he just can, fine. Wolverine can regenerate damage because he's full of tiny nanomachines - hmm, okay, if you say so (but then what about X, and Y...). Wolverine can regenerate any damage so he can eat his own arm to stop from starving? That's just silly.

Ray (Ray), Monday, 17 October 2005 07:47 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
From the list of Comic Urban Legends here. I didn't know this. Think of how they could have wrapped Bova into his romantic past!

COMIC URBAN LEGEND: Wolverine was initially intended to be a genetically mutated wolverine.

STATUS: True

Initially, not only was Wolverine to be a mutated Wolverine, he was also supposed to be a teenager, just like the rest of the X-Men! It wasn't until Dave Cockrum first drew Wolverine without a mask that everyone realized that Wolverine was not as young as the other X-Men. Said Wein, at the time, "You just put thirty years on that guy."

In addition, according to Len Wein, “The adamantium claws were [only] in the gloves when I first created the character. And the claws were retractable. They were telescoping, and they would fit back in the casing of the gloves.”

As for the "mutated Wolverine" part, check out X-Men #98. A technician gets a reading on Wolverine that suggests he is not a full-fledged mutant. This was because Wein's initial intentions were to make Wolverine an evolved wolverine, courtesy of the High Evolutionary.

Chris Claremont soon took over writing the book full-time, and he went his own way with the character, but imagine...what could have been?!?

(Wein quotes courtesy of The X-Men Companion, 1982)

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Whoops. There's a better link to the original article.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

That Comics Urban Legend thing is R-A-D.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 3 February 2006 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed! Had no idea about some of the stuff - like Milgrom getting fired for the anti-Harras art addition, or the editor scorning Liefeld's art on that Hawk & Dove issue. I'd thought all the anti-Liefeld scorn was backlash driven by fanboys.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 3 February 2006 18:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Editor scorning the what now? I thought the only urban legend related to Liefeld and that H&D mini was that the job had to be saved by the inker? Or does "it had to be saved" = "scorn"?

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 4 February 2006 00:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, never mind-- I finally got the site to load. Cute-- I never knew that it got so bad that Kesel had to complete the figure drawings for him!

Chris F. (servoret), Saturday, 4 February 2006 00:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe something people like about Wolverine is, despite the anger and killing, he enjoys himself once in a while? Sure its bad news for villains when he shows up, but he usually has a pretty good time messing with other heroes. Unlike say, Punisher, Wolverine enjoys being a badass.

goodbyesoberday (goodbyesoberday), Saturday, 4 February 2006 01:46 (eighteen years ago) link

why are there no threads on the adventures of tin tin?

no bones, Saturday, 4 February 2006 02:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Are you serious? We publish fiction, not documented history!
(If you are serious, check the "Greatest Comics of All Time Poll" for how highly Tintin rates on ILC)(A: VERY HIGHLY)

Nobody ever answered my question about Logan's eyepatch. So I'm going to assume it was private dig at Cyclops.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Saturday, 4 February 2006 03:51 (eighteen years ago) link

six months pass...
Just read this in the weekly X-Axis e-mail, regarding the new "Claws" Wolverine / Black Cat limited run, and the overuse of the character in inconsequential miniseries:

Since cover date January 2000, Wolverine has
appeared in Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk, What If: Wolverine, Wolverine:
Soultaker, Witchblade/Wolverine, Wolverine/Punisher, Wolverine/ Captain
America, Wolverine: The End, Spider-Man & Wolverine, Wolverine: Snikt!,
Wolverine/Doop, Wolverine: X-Isle, Hulk/Wolverine: Six Hours, Wolverine:
Netsuke, Wolverine/Hulk, Elektra/ Wolverine: The Redeemers, Origin, Iron
Fist/Wolverine and Before the Fantastic Four: Ben Grimm & Logan.

Yet he remains one of, if not THE, most popular Marvel characters.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 21 August 2006 16:45 (seventeen years ago) link

SNIKT

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Monday, 21 August 2006 17:28 (seventeen years ago) link

The art looks both amateur and interesting. All five issues can be seen here, albeit with Hungarian dialogue.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 21 August 2006 18:32 (seventeen years ago) link

From X-Axis, these both sound kinda great:

EXILES #85 - We're now firmly into the stories Tom Bedard is writing while he waits for Chris Claremont to recover and take over the book, but kudos for a premise so gloriously ridiculous that you've got to admire the sheer nerve. Having sacked the Exiles last issue, the Timebreakers introduce the new, improved team - all-new and all-Wolverine. After all, if Wolverine is great, six of him have got to be even better. Walking a fine line between sheer silliness and actually having a proper story, this is tremendous fun. A-

WOLVERINE #45 - God, I love this storyline. It's got all the playful absurdity of "Enemy of the State" without the grinding cynicism. This issue: Wolverine in underwater armour! With claws! You either get it and roll with the absurdity, or you don't and you'll hate it with a passion. Emphatically not for anyone who thinks Wolverine stories should be taken particularly seriously, but so cheerfully nonsensical that I can't help but smile. And when they stop for a couple of panels to lecture Wolverine about his extremely inconsistent sense of honour, there are some fair points being made as well. A

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 28 August 2006 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Mile High Comics has a four page preview on their 8/23 First Look list.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:30 (seventeen years ago) link

...of Exiles #85.

lumberingwoodsman (Chris Hill), Monday, 28 August 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

seven years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1NK9qrSqYE

乒乓, Saturday, 21 December 2013 21:21 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zs92eCn11k

that's you, that is (snoball), Saturday, 21 December 2013 21:32 (ten years ago) link

New Wolverine series next week, Origins II.

The cover is pretty sweet - plastic die cut on top of a painted cover

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Saturday, 21 December 2013 23:45 (ten years ago) link

ugh

giant faps are what you take, wanking on the moon (sic), Sunday, 22 December 2013 00:42 (ten years ago) link

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Ward Fowler, Sunday, 22 December 2013 10:13 (ten years ago) link

I got the Wolverine & Nick Fury: Scorpio trade collection a while back. The main story is a graphic novel that Archie Goodwin and Howard Chaykin did in the 80s and it is a good story. It's a worthy sequel to the Steranko story. The few things Archie Goodwin wrote later in his career are all pretty good comic books.

The other two related tales are not quite as good and not written by Goodwin. The second story by Tom DeFalco with John Buscema also inking himself is a decent 80s Wolverine/Nick Fury adventure. Buscema inking himself just has a different look, smoother lines. The third tale is a sequel to the Goodwin story written by Chaykin with somewhat mismatched art by Shawn MacManus. It's not the best comic by either.

earlnash, Monday, 23 December 2013 23:25 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyYtOYV4dBg

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:17 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcAuua2l6U4

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:18 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpX3VMTmKzU

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 04:19 (ten years ago) link

sure are a lot of these, thanks 乒乓

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 15:13 (ten years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87EtjZ_kmWM

am0n, Tuesday, 24 December 2013 17:05 (ten years ago) link

three years pass...

I feel like there was a more recent thread where Logan came up but with search down I can't find it so I found this with the google.

Saw Logan tonight, it is incredible. I vouched hard for the last Wolverine movie in some other thread (the one in Japan where he falls in love); never bothered with the first one which I heard was complete rubbish. But Logan is another level; certainly, by far, the best Xmen movie, and, if they choose for it to be such, a decent way to end the series. Jackman and Stewart are just great; the girl is great. The final scene is great. In the running for the best comics movie of all time.

akm, Thursday, 16 March 2017 05:10 (seven years ago) link

I posted my review in the "Random Marvel Blabbery" thread... similar sentiments to yours!

(How painful was the Deadpool teaser that preceded it, though?)

morrisp, Thursday, 16 March 2017 17:55 (seven years ago) link

haven't seen Logan but if you're talking about the phone booth teaser trailer, I love that thing to death

Rachel Luther Queen (DJP), Thursday, 16 March 2017 19:56 (seven years ago) link

Diff'rent strokes, I guess...

morrisp, Thursday, 16 March 2017 20:58 (seven years ago) link

Yeah it's possibly the best comic book film yet. Just leagues above the rest in so many ways. Also - Wolverine being Wolverine.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 16 March 2017 23:39 (seven years ago) link

Ghost World? Akira? Danger: Diabolik? Scott Pilgrim? American Splendour? Snowpiercer? Nausicaa? When The Wind Blows?

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 17 March 2017 01:10 (seven years ago) link

Prof. X is very much a Clowesian grump in this movie. Also bearderine looks disturbingly like Mel Gibson.

Philip Nunez, Friday, 17 March 2017 01:36 (seven years ago) link

Also, Snowpiercer was mostly rubbish

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Friday, 17 March 2017 02:06 (seven years ago) link

I would give the edge to The Dark Knight (it wasn't perfect, but was pretty darn good). Caveat: I have not seen every one of the other 5,980 comic book movies released in the past ten years.

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 04:34 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight was dumb as fuck

(±\ PLO;;;;;;; Style (sic), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:27 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight is an enjoyable movie, but the title character is the least interesting thing about it. Wolverine is consistently the most interesting thing about the movies he's in.

well the bitter comes out better on a stolen Switch cartridge (snoball), Friday, 17 March 2017 11:48 (seven years ago) link

Did I miss an explanation about why there are no more mutants or is that in a line midway through the film?
Was aware of the comic arc where mutants died out from I think about 10 years ago. But wouldn't be something that would be immediate to large chunks of the audience. Or there would be a large amount of the audience who wouldn't be familiar with it at least.
Also does this story directly map to other comic arcs?

Stevolende, Friday, 17 March 2017 13:16 (seven years ago) link

Oh, I didn't quite make the connection with the corn syrup: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/logan-x-men-killed-westchester-incident-professor-x-where-are-the-mutants

This was like Mad Max + The Road + Hanna + X-Men.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 17 March 2017 16:32 (seven years ago) link

The Dark Knight was dumb as fuck

Nah, you must be thinking of one of the other two Nolan movies... "The Dark Knight" (2008) was pretty awesome!

morrisp, Friday, 17 March 2017 17:10 (seven years ago) link


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