Built to Spill: 'Perfect' vs. 'Keep it Like a Secret'

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From "Nowhere Nothing Fuckup", Ultimate Alternative Wavers, which is definitely not their best by a longshot, but man that is a good line. I like Nothing Wrong With Love best.

Mark Rich@rdson, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Okay, I need some feedback here: am I just in a hopelessly romantic mood right now, or is "As long as it's talking with you / Talk of the weather will do" an absolutely perfect lyric?

bernard snowy, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:30 (sixteen years ago) link

whereas 'perfect from now on' had had a great impact on me as it was *the* album that first got me into indie rock back in '97.

Upon listening to Perfect From Now On, most of indie rock is really disappointing.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost: Yes, that could be Cole Porter or something.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:41 (sixteen years ago) link

they played 'nowhere nothing...' the other night when i saw them! very pleasant surprise.

and bernard yeah, that's a great line from a song that's a fitting closer to an under-appreciated record

and yeah, kingkong, 'perfect...' really does set the benchmark for majestic guitar-based indie rock.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 10 January 2008 03:43 (sixteen years ago) link

so this band is offically my soundtrack for the beginning of 2008.

welcome 2008.

Surmounter, Friday, 11 January 2008 18:14 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm kind of amazed that there isn't more outright anti-BtS contrarianism on this thread.

well in that case, let me be the first to say it: i fucking hate this band.

stephen, Friday, 11 January 2008 19:01 (sixteen years ago) link

do u have a favorite band? who is it? curious

Surmounter, Friday, 11 January 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link

Low

stephen, Saturday, 12 January 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link

no offense or anything to BtS, i just don't like that sorta indie-guitar rock.

stephen, Saturday, 12 January 2008 01:14 (sixteen years ago) link

tks

PappaWheelie V, Saturday, 12 January 2008 04:59 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

"you thought of everything
but some things can't be thought"

always makes me smile :)

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 08:24 (sixteen years ago) link

"Both are great but Keep Like A Secret starts higher and peters out more near the end. Perfect is more consistent overall so I'll probably give it the nod" is very OTM

stevie, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:37 (sixteen years ago) link

plus 'perfect' is phenomenal at the end

Charlie Howard, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I must give major props to "Velvet Waltz" off of Perfect From Now On, still my favorite BTS song.

I still like Keep it Like a Secret just as much, with There's Nothing Wrong With Love. I want to like the live album, but it reminds me too much of the one time I saw BTS live, which was sort of like a sped up version of watching an old man lose the ability to grip his hammer, and then die.

Z S, Tuesday, 25 March 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

"Both are great but Keep Like A Secret starts higher and peters out more near the end. Perfect is more consistent overall so I'll probably give it the nod" is very OTM

-- stevie, Tuesday, March 25, 2008 11:37 AM (4 days ago) Bookmark Link

By OTM, do you mean "Opposite of The Money"? The last three songs on KILAS are impeccable.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Sunday, 30 March 2008 01:29 (sixteen years ago) link

six months pass...

keep it like a secret always feels perfect.

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

purrrrrrrfect.

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:16 (fifteen years ago) link

the guitar bridge in the middle of Sidewalk is great

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:18 (fifteen years ago) link

Else is painful to listen to

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:31 (fifteen years ago) link

a frightening prelude to You Were Right.

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:33 (fifteen years ago) link

whoas. Broken Chairs is a ridiculous closer. the vocals just hang in the air.

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:45 (fifteen years ago) link

wtf ;D

Surmounter, Saturday, 11 October 2008 04:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Long time since I listened to Keep it Like a secret, not so long for Perfect from Now On. For me Perfect is Perfect because each song is like aa epic story without being prog- it is coherent and massive- works as a whole gigantic album. Keep it like a secret is more varied and feels far more inconsistent.I was extremely disappointed at the time. I guess I had Built to Spill pigeoned as a group who wrote monumental tracks which felt both pop-like and also quite symphonic. There is daylight between these two records for me and i am interested in why so many people seem to love "Keep it." there no right or wrong answer of course but this one just seems so obvious. have all you Keep it people listened well to perfect from now on
. Also all those people who love Keep It Like a secret- did you like this before you heard Perfect from Now on? For me it was the other way round and like a favourite pet maybe it is hard to give up your first love.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 11 October 2008 06:15 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard Keep It Like A Secret long before Perfect From Now On and it's by far my favorite Built to Spill record. I have all the other ones but honestly listen to to this one 95% of the time and all the others 5%.

I really should listen to Perfect more.

a better command of the mummy language (joygoat), Saturday, 11 October 2008 07:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Thats what I'm trying to say. My theory is that all the Fans of Keep it like a Secret were first to this record and second to Perfect from Now on. Maybe it depends on which one you listened to first.

Hinklepicker, Saturday, 11 October 2008 09:21 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

well Keep It is the first and only that i've heard. i can't remember if i got Perfect or something else after, but it doesn't matter cuz this girl stole it.

what should i get now???

Surmounter, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Perfect From Now On!

Pfunkboy Formerly Known As... (Herman G. Neuname), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:40 (fifteen years ago) link

their best, "There's Nothing Wrong With Love"

nicky lo-fi, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

I've always said There's Nothing Wrong with Love was my fave, but I'm starting to wonder if Secret aged better.

Lasers of the New School (PappaWheelie V), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

perfect perfect perfect perfect perfect. perfect.

ledge, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

voted "there's nothing wrong with love"

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 03:56 (fifteen years ago) link

They played Perfect in its entirety last month here in Brussels, and right after "Untrustable" (I mean RIGHT after, they didn't even stop for the applause) they played "In Your Mind" from Ancient Melodies. I always thought it was the best song from that album, but it was a bit weird to hear it so closely connected to Perfect.

During the encore we got "Car", which was a nice treat as well :)

BTW, my vote goes to Perfect.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link

They played Perfect in its entirety last month here in Brussels

fuck fuck fuck this was in london two weeks ago. why don't i check live listings? fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.

ledge, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 12:04 (fifteen years ago) link

I actually don't think I've heard Perfect From Now On. I own Keep It Like A Secret but I never got into it. I like There's Nothing Wrong With Love and Ultimate Alternative Wavers a lot more.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 18 November 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link

Thanks for the post. I didn't realize Keep It was so highly regarded, the CD's been sitting around the back of my collection. Somehow I got it confused with Ancient Melodies which I found very disappointing.

hugo, Tuesday, 18 November 2008 16:38 (fifteen years ago) link

ten months pass...

No one likes "Broken Chairs"? This is one of my favorite songs on this album.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Thursday, 24 September 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link

it's an OK song but it has one of the most torturously long fadeouts ever

Keep It is really the only Built To Spill i fuck with at all, I saw one of the shows where they did Perfect last year and just kept thinking about how much i'd like to hear the other album instead.

goodship journey to lollipop (some dude), Thursday, 24 September 2009 05:15 (fourteen years ago) link

^

if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 24 September 2009 06:47 (fourteen years ago) link

The song broken chairs is credited in the liner notes to "uhuru black". I'm pretty sure this is noy a black uhuru song though, right?

those .rawr blogs (kingkongvsgodzilla), Thursday, 24 September 2009 09:58 (fourteen years ago) link

I just got into these guys, and I really like _KILAS_. With the exception of "Randy", _Perfect_ seems completely unremarkable to me.

Mike Crandle, Financial Analyst, Bear Stearns, New York, NY 10185 (res), Friday, 25 September 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

there's nothing wrong w/ love is my favorite by a good amount, though i think "liar" is my favorite song by them

blap 10, lure, ax (k3vin k.), Friday, 25 September 2009 02:44 (fourteen years ago) link

great song, no doubt

iatee, Friday, 25 September 2009 02:50 (fourteen years ago) link

'The song broken chairs is credited in the liner notes to "uhuru black". I'm pretty sure this is noy a black uhuru song though, right?'

Uhuru Black was a Built To Spill roadie who died shortly before Keep It Like A Secret was recorded. He wrote the words, they turned it into a song as a tribute to him.

cwkiii, Friday, 25 September 2009 04:17 (fourteen years ago) link

That's cool. Makes me like the song better. But it's still one of the rare BTS songs that goes on too long.

kornrulez6969, Friday, 25 September 2009 04:20 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

The only Built to Spill album I'm super-familiar with is Keep It Like a Secret, which I like quite a bit. I've heard a smattering of songs from other albums, but until recently I hadn't heard Perfect From Now On. It's ... fine, I guess? I mean, I get that Built to Spill is basically an indie-rock jam band and the sprawl is often what it's about, but I wish these songs also had the memorable hooks of Keep It Like a Secret, which strikes me as a far superior album for its balance. Amusing to me -- though maybe it shouldn't be -- that Ned rates this album so highly.

Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

I think Perfect From Now On is their best record, but they seem to disagree. I think that tour a few years ago where they played it in its entirety was their way of retiring it. When I saw them in 2010 they only played one song from it, and when I saw them this year they didn't play anything from it. Closed this year's set with what felt like a 30 minute version of "Broken Chairs", though.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

i think if you're familiar with the sprawl first, perfect is sort of hits-plus-filler in comparison

da croupier, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

i mean secret is hits-plus-filler, sorry

da croupier, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link

I missed KILAS the first time so it was a real pleasure discovering it two summers ago.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link


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