Beck: Classic Or Dud

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Beck has some great tunes, but I don't imagine anyone out there having a "Beck phase", right? Do you "get into" Beck's music? Perhaps that's the point, tho...All of his material post-Odelay tries to appear "written" but still carry the sheen of the former cut-and-paste boy he once was. How his music is produced, "the process", is included in the final product. Would Sea Change sound better or worse without the Godrich tinkerings?

p.j. (Henry), Saturday, 20 December 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

"Beercan" is the best thing he's ever done. Who's with me???

I'm there, dude.

Omar (Omar), Saturday, 20 December 2003 18:15 (twenty years ago) link

me three.
prolly one of the better songs of the 90's.

dyson (dyson), Saturday, 20 December 2003 18:39 (twenty years ago) link

*admits nate's right*

MerkinMuffley (MerkinMuffley), Saturday, 20 December 2003 19:01 (twenty years ago) link

Not to downplay Odelay, but I still think Mellow Gold is his best -- it's probably the best album of its kind since Safe As Milk ("of its kind" meaning "cobbled-together thrift-store junk culture blues").

If you want to hear a weird stylistic evolution, listen to the way he attempts to sing folk on some of his 1991-92 demos (thinking Don't Get Bent Out of Shape and/or Fresh Meat and Old Slabs here) -- he does just fine as a screaming anti-folk Fluxus psycho ("Fume") but some of the songs which seem to be geared more towards a straight-faced folk/blues/roots sound are almost unbearable; stuff like "Why Can't I Believe In You" are halfway competent but just croaky and nasal enough to make it somewhat grating. It's a voice more suited for singing weird songs about getting cut in half than it is for Woody Guthrie-style folk. Fortunately he got his shit together around '93 or so, when he recorded parts of Stereopathetic Soulmanure and One Foot in the Grave and sung those sorts of songs with a more subdued and controlled voice. (All you have to do is compare his '92 recording of "Hollow Log" from Fresh Meat with the one from One Foot -- though maybe it's part in the recording technique.) Now compare that '93/'94 stuff -- and songs like "Whiskeyclone, Hotel City 1997" and "Ramshackle" (recorded in '94, tacked onto the end of Odelay) -- to "Jack-Ass"... and then compare "Jack-Ass" to anything from Sea Change.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 20 December 2003 19:11 (twenty years ago) link

Dud. Uninteresting 'indie-rock' bores me senseless.

Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 20 December 2003 19:30 (twenty years ago) link

eight months pass...
Beck 'indie-rock'? Beck is pop. Pop music. So be it.

47% stupid, Monday, 6 September 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link

One Foot In The Grave is his best by a mile.

Jim Reckling (Jim Reckling), Monday, 6 September 2004 21:56 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
i came across this site whilst researching the making of midnite vultures.
after 3 weeks debating i have chosen Beck's Sexx Laws as a good and interesting example of a well produced song for my music tech degree.

anyone dare argue?

...well founded criticism more than welcome..

peter pumpkins pie, Wednesday, 27 October 2004 12:54 (nineteen years ago) link

I think "Get the Party Started" sounds like a Midnite Vultures track.

So did he, apparently.

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:08 (nineteen years ago) link

One Foot In The Grave is his best by a mile.

purist.
i say 'odelay', of course. 'sea change' is a great record, too, despite the fact that some critics couldn't manage that he was being serious all of a sudden. it didn't fit in with their preconceptions of him so they slagged it with the usual "he's just wearing another mask" type of bla bla.

looking forward to the next one. i hear it's a really upbeat, messed-up record. great!

Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:13 (nineteen years ago) link

erm, yes ...

Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:26 (nineteen years ago) link

EY3 LIKE NOIZE AND GURLS

B.A.R.M.S. (Barima), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 13:29 (nineteen years ago) link

hes a scientologist

sometimes i like to pretend i am very small and warm (ex machina), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

he has rosacea

cutty (mcutt), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

nine months pass...
Two Beck questions:

1.) I'm trying to figure out what song I recently saw Beck perform on an old SNL. It was with a backing band of about 5 or 6 people (with female vocalist(s)) and was really funky-like. My guess is that it was definitely post-Odelay but pre-Sea Change. It was very good.

2.) Does anyone remember that NY Times Magazine article a few years back that had a graphic of what songs were on Beck's iPod? By chance does anyone know if it is posted somewhere online?

I thank you.

PB, Thursday, 28 July 2005 16:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember that -- I searched LexisNexis hoping to find it for you, but it was a graphic and there's no text available. Here's the details, though:

Beck's 198-Track Mind
Published: March 17, 2002, Sunday

Rob Upt1ght., Thursday, 28 July 2005 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Classic! Guero is still my album of the year so far.

His appearance on MTV's 120 Minutes. The one where he and Thurston Moore smash up a phone.

No, that's not being ironic. That's being retarded.

Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 28 July 2005 19:19 (eighteen years ago) link

three months pass...
BECK is completely original, you guys are fools for disrespecting him. There is no one out there doing what BECK is doing. He is a solo artist, without someone to fall on. Bringing on his own style and sound, Beck is one of the best musicians in his time. I need not say anymore.............

YouBETTERKnow, Friday, 18 November 2005 03:09 (eighteen years ago) link

We are suppressive persons.

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Friday, 18 November 2005 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
i agree you guys are fucking douche bags...Beck is the best artist since damn near anyone. You clearly haven't purused his back catalog.

bart vandever, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:49 (seventeen years ago) link

clearly

jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 04:58 (seventeen years ago) link

pruurusedt

bart garfunkel, Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:11 (seventeen years ago) link

"Girl" was a shockingly great single.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 05:30 (seventeen years ago) link

beck was deliciously sexy until he became a scientologist... and they took issac hayes. if those silly culties had their way jimi hendrix would be flaccid and sting would come in five seconds. and Guero is exactly what its title implies. RIP mr. hanson's mojo...

lady river (la pecheur reine), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 09:57 (seventeen years ago) link

beck was deliciously sexy until he became a scientologist

uh, he was pretty much born into scientology

jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 15:25 (seventeen years ago) link

don't be so suppressive. i didn't realize his parents dictated his actions- if YOUR parents told you to jump off a bridge would YOU do it?

lady river (la pecheur reine), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link

well i did go to church every sunday until i was 15, and that was without the promise of luncheons with tom cruise

gear (gear), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:49 (seventeen years ago) link

sucka. tom cruise makes the BEST BRUNCH EVER!!!!!!

lady river (la pecheur reine), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link

if by "makes" you mean "gives" and if by "brunch" you mean "blowjobs", that's what i hear!

gear (gear), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Shiina Ringo's Karuki Zamen Kuri no Hana is kind of like Odelay would be if Odelay were good (and were made by a Japanese female, etc.).

Rockist_Scientist (RSLaRue), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:57 (seventeen years ago) link

beck is like the tiny tim of our day

Candycane Shim-sham

by Beck

Candy-cane shimsham
love to make the door jam
up until the sun rise
thinking 'bout fruit pies

planning for the end days
taking in some heat rays
making all the girls cry
waiting til the pearls dry

ETC. WHATEVA

and the remix album? yipes.

banana cruiseship (dayvidday), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 21:59 (seventeen years ago) link

gear, can i make you brunch?

making all the girls cry
waiting til the pearls dry

no one's ever heard of a pearl necklace? it does take some time to dry.

lady river (la pecheur reine), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i am spoken for

gear (gear), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Why do people always try to say beck is ironic? What has he ever done, ever, in his life that is even remotely ironic? Name one thing. You can't!

A generation of kids embracing a song whose refrain is "I'm a loser" seems pretty ironic to me. And I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure Beck is not calling himself a loser in this song, but rather he's being "tongue in cheek," which some people like to refer to as "irony." However I don't think Beck's music has ever strived specifically for irony. But yeah, you asked for one thing, and there it is.

Mutations remains one of the most beautiful and perfect records I've ever heard.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:50 (seventeen years ago) link

the title is rather ironic then, no?

gear (gear), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 22:51 (seventeen years ago) link

not necessarily

http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/663/threeboobs0xr.jpg

jäxøñ (jaxon), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 23:52 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd say classic for sure, I was very fond of Sea Change, and I enjoyed Odelay and Midnite Vultures significantly too. A lot of fun to listen to, even if Guero was a mild disappointment.

Harrison Barr (Petar), Thursday, 11 May 2006 00:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"i am spoken for"

i guess sarcasm doesn't transfer in print gear

lady river (la pecheur reine), Thursday, 11 May 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i'll admit it, when the whole Scientology became MUCH more previlant, i gots worried.
then, Sea Change came out and i wasn't worried anymore.
he's still a total space-flake, but hey...that's beck.
still loves da music.

eedd, Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
So, many of us have probably heard "The Information" by now.
I say classic... miles better than "Guero" and maybe one of my fave Beck albums yet.
Opinions on the quasi-Scientology spoken-word bits at the end? I am most definitely confused...

Dave Depper (Dave Depper), Saturday, 23 September 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

quasi-Scientology spoken-word bits

!
I'm gonna have to hear that. Here is Information thread:

is the new Beck album "The Information" going under the radar?

Marmot (marmotwolof), Saturday, 23 September 2006 23:16 (seventeen years ago) link

Hmm, I was looking for that thread and thought it had disappeared... over there then...

Dave Depper (Dave Depper), Saturday, 23 September 2006 23:20 (seventeen years ago) link

I wanna get with u, and your sister

JB Young (JB Young), Sunday, 24 September 2006 15:07 (seventeen years ago) link

I find his classic. And I am speaking regardless of whatever genre he is trying. He is great at being the ultimate postmodernist ironic copy'n'paste pop act, but then he is even better at being a melancholy singer/songwriter.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Sunday, 24 September 2006 17:56 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Liking the new album a lot.

Bob Six, Sunday, 6 July 2008 23:48 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a whole thread for that album:

Beck - Modern Guilt

Bee OK, Monday, 7 July 2008 00:26 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

his remake of diamond dogs with timbo is one of the best things either have ever done. shame they didnt do more together.

titchyschneiderMk2, Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Never saw the pants-wetting deal about this schmuck. Ween is far better and funnier. Mixing genres of music is nothing new and it's NOT an indication of genius.

ilxor, Thursday, 26 March 2009 03:22 (fifteen years ago) link


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