The Dance Music Nobody Talks About S & D

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re MTV Europe - i dunno, it was hit and miss really. great in the way Siegbran describes but also dud for similar reasons! ironically the unified MTV had a huge American influence and with the localisation that was reduced for a while in the UK a few years (tho its back in force now with all the terrible programming like Cribs, Dismissed, Becoming, Real World etc.) at least. what i couldn never understand about MTV Europe ten years ago was how all the programming was in Englsih but half the adverts were in German and all advertising jungle and gabba compilations - the narrator would always sound like the guy from Scooter. you'd get lots of adverts for the European Business School as well, and a lot of arty short films shown between programmes that drove you mad the 50th time you'd see them in just one week. back then MTV also played a lot more 80s stuff too (Greates Hits with Paul King etc.), now thats strictly VH-1, but even they are playing less stuff from that era it seems.

despite all this, MTV Europe was instrumentally useful for exposing dance music throughout Europe with the Partyzone, MTV Dance and so on. which just leaves the question, are Scooter better now than they were 8/9 years ago or not?

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

It's kinda annoying now that MTV doesn't play much music anymore.

Ronan (Ronan), Sunday, 16 March 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

i suggest a stern letter to the Broadcasting Standards Commision

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:34 (twenty-one years ago) link

I only watched MTVE after 10pm back then, so I probably did not experience much of the bad daytime programming. But indeed, what was the deal with all those Israeli yoghurt commercials?

are Scooter better now than they were 8/9 years ago or not?

The great thing about Scooter is that they're exactly the same as 9 years ago. I still remember a 1993 review of the first single Hyper Hyper which went along the lines of "it's absolutely pants. One of those novelty acts we can be sure of that nobody will ever hear of again".

Incidentally, I saw the video for the new Scooter single Weekend a few days ago and it's beyond bizarre. A troupe of Buddhist monk slaves and bare breasted girls, discomforting "faces under skin" CGI FX, all in a fetishist Roman setting. And of course another classic line for HP Baxter: "We Are Not The Monkees! But We've Got The Key!"...

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago) link

it is impossible for me to like anything by Scooter except 'Move Your Ass' it seems, partly because i have fond memories of the video for that one, lots of bizarre shit happening in it - mad scientists etc.

what was the first video you ever saw on MTVE? mine was actually u96's 'Das Boot' or maybe Adamski ft Nina Hagen's 'Get Your Body' - this was when on holiday in Mallorca in '92. we finally got satellite tv in '93 and i think the first vid i saw then was CultureBeat's 'Mr Vain' or Sven Vath's 'La Esperanza' - as you can see MTVE's influence on me is so huge that remembering shit like that comes very easy.

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 16 March 2003 21:51 (twenty-one years ago) link

I believe we got MTVE on cable somewhere in 1989...I'd love to say that the first one I saw was S-Express or Inner City, but I can't remember...might've been a Bros tune.

Siegbran (eofor), Monday, 17 March 2003 10:38 (twenty-one years ago) link

I remember Confettis. Got they were totally rubbish! I can't actually think of anything worse! I have some old French "Now!" equivalent called Boulevard Des Hits lying around somewhere. Most of it is either hilarious or total shit. Cock Robin? Kassav? Zouk Machine? Hypnoteck? Liza Minelli?!!!!!! ARRGH!

dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 17 March 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago) link

This entire thread is the best dance mix ever.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 17 March 2003 18:30 (twenty-one years ago) link

Most everything Si Begg does makes me just lose my shit. I know it's dance music because I'm dancing, but though it's got moments of sick, herky-jerky techno or house parody, I know it's neither techno nor house. Some call it breaks but I say it's too organic. Wacko.

matt riedl (veal), Monday, 17 March 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

five months pass...
revive:
D-Mob feat. Cathy Dennis "Come on and get my love". Big pianos, a cute little rap section, diva vocals, and a sample... "Im comin' hardcore" which may have been true at that point, but the claim now seems hilarious in retrospect (ie the breakbeat hardcore, darkcore, jungle, etc. that all came after this record).

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 17 August 2003 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

aaron that is one of my favourite songs of all time ever!

minna (minna), Sunday, 17 August 2003 07:33 (twenty years ago) link

someone needs to cover 'dirty cash' STAT
-- zemko

this is an amazingly prophetic post

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Sunday, 17 August 2003 08:17 (twenty years ago) link

Who did that cover? I'm gutted about that cos I can't play the original at parties anymore...

Also: Billie Ray Martin to thread...

Jacob (Jacob), Sunday, 17 August 2003 08:39 (twenty years ago) link

zemko, why did it need a cover? the original is amazing!

minna (minna), Sunday, 17 August 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

(i haven't heard the cover)

minna (minna), Sunday, 17 August 2003 09:03 (twenty years ago) link

Billie Ray Martin seconded, 'Your Loving Arms' in particular.

Oceanic - Insanity
The Bassheads - Back To The Old School
Culture Beat - Anything
CeCe Peniston - Finally
Utah Saints - Something Good
Sub Sub feat. Melanie Williams - Ain't No Love (Ain't No Use)*
Robin S - Show Me Love

*still my favourite Doves song

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 17 August 2003 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

Also:

Farley and Heller - "Ultraflava"
Todd Terry - "Keep on jumpin"
Underground Sound of Lisbon
Junior Vasquez
DJ Pierre - "Muzik sets you free"

and on a different tip:

Ultra-sonic - "Annihilating rhythm"
DJ Technotrance - "YRS Stomp"
Neuro-Tek - "Cocaine"
Chill FM - "Strobelight"

Jacob (Jacob), Sunday, 17 August 2003 09:41 (twenty years ago) link

yes to Billie Ray Martin and Electribe 101 - 'Tell Me When The Fever Ended' etc.

and 'Ultraflava' - liked that one a lot

i've been thinking about loads of mid 90s happy handbag anthems again...

Nush 'U Girls'
Nu-Birth 'Anytime'
2 Men Will Move You 'The Goodbye Thing'
Nightcrawlers 'Push The Feelin' On' (but everyone remembers this)
Jinny 'Keep Warm'
The Swimmer 'Let It Come'
DSK 'What Would We Do' (they play it on 24HPP in the first Hacienda club scene)
E-Motion 'Naughty North, Sexy South'
Kadoc 'Night Train'
Klubbheads 'Klubbhopping'
DJ Supreme 'Wildstyle'
Technocat ft Tom Wilson 'Technocat'

and more Westbam ('Alarm Clock', 'The Roof Is On Fire', 'Celebration Generation')

and Marusha ('Deep' and 'Unique' her best tunes i think, everything else probably TOO cheesy)

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:04 (twenty years ago) link

"U girls look so sexy"!!! Damn that list takes me back. Have to see if I've still got those silver trousers and gold hairspray...

Also: Livin Joy - "Dreamer"

Jacob (Jacob), Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:27 (twenty years ago) link

Hed Boys 'Girls & Boys'
Tinman '18 Strings'
Clock 'Keep The Fires Burnin'
Hyper Go Go 'High'
Awesome 3 'Don't Go'
Kym Sims 'Too Blind To See It'
Sabrina Johnston 'Peace'

stevem (blueski), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:32 (twenty years ago) link

aaron that is one of my favourite songs of all time ever!
rawk!

this thread reminds me... can anyone remember the producer of a track from the early 90s called "take it"? It consists of a sample of those words being sung plus a little sax loop. I heard it on bassquake (RIP) a few years ago... thnks!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 17 August 2003 15:19 (twenty years ago) link

OH MY GOD I'd completely forgotten that Kym Sims and Sabrina Johnston even existed, and I'm fucking pleased to be reminded of them.

Zoe - Sunshine On A Rainy Day
Rozalla - Everybody's Free (To Feel Good)
Crystal Waters - Gypsy Woman
Alison Limerick - Where Love Lives
Karen Ramirez - Looking For Love

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 17 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

And anything by the mighty 2 Unlimited, of course.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 17 August 2003 16:19 (twenty years ago) link

dug up an old pair of tapes that contain a copy of a pop/dance comp from 98 or 99 that a friend in germany owned. most I dont like much, but i am wondering what others think of:
"I'm Lonely" Hollis P. Monroe... I always liked this one, but the impression I got from reading mixmag at the time was that it was being played out a LOT. Did this make everyone sick of it?
"Future of the Future (David Morales remix)" DD/TT... damn it is a lush, lush track, for better or worse.

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Sunday, 17 August 2003 20:13 (twenty years ago) link

"Take My Advice" was the best Kym Sims single.

I picked up a 50 track megamix CD from 1991 used for next to nothing. Lots of forgotten gems:

Dr. Baker - Kaos
Petra & Co - Just Let Go
Space Trax - Atomic Playboy
The Mixmasters - In The Mix
Fire On High - Float In A Dream Of Ex-TC
Westbam - Hold Me Back
How II House - It's Time To Feel The Rhythm
B-Sides - The Tape
B-Sides - Moral Soundabuse
Lewis Lovebump - Mallorca
Digital Boys - Kokko
The Break Boys - My House Is Your House (And Your House Is Mine)
A Homeboy A Hippy & A Funky Dredd - Total Confusion
DJ Dick - Weekend
T99 - Anastasia
Dirty Mind - The Killer

And some more oldies:
Kellee - My Love ("...is the only key that can set you free")
RMB - Spring
RFTR - Extrasyn
D-Mob - Put Your Hands Together

Technocat ft Tom Wilson 'Technocat'

Recently reissued with new mixes!

Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 17 August 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link

Tom Wilson used to be Edinburgh's biggest local radio DJ. His show was called Tom Wilson's Bouncing Beats and he released a compilation called "Tartan Techno".

Scotland is grate.

Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 18 August 2003 05:05 (twenty years ago) link

Several comps called Tom Wilson's Tartan Techno and also a companion series Tom Wilson's Bouncing Beats. I have 4 of them and love them all. I haven't read the whole thread so I can only assume JX is mentioned many times as he surely deserves.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 August 2003 07:42 (twenty years ago) link

Also: Livin Joy - "Dreamer"

i always thought this song would be perfect if covered by dag nasty (in their best period)... could work so well as a skaty hardcore tune...

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 18 August 2003 10:01 (twenty years ago) link

I think if it had been that good an idea Snuff would have done it by now...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 18 August 2003 10:33 (twenty years ago) link

three months pass...
can anyone tell me more about mid-90s house?
right now, my favorite track is "push the feeling on" by the nightcrawlers. is there more stuff like this? deep stuff pre-70s revivalism? dark, sexy? uregent? clubby?

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 06:03 (twenty years ago) link

I thought this thread was going to be about the polka.

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 06:22 (twenty years ago) link

latin freestyle.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 06:48 (twenty years ago) link

Aaron:

Deep Zone - It's Gonna Be Allright
Kadoc - The Nighttrain
The Original - I Love You Baby
OT Quartet - Hold That Sucker Down
Gala - Freed From Desire
Novy vs Eniac - Superstar
The Course - Ready Of Not
Red 5 - I Love You...Stop
Kellee - My Love
Jean & Peran - I Give My Life

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 09:07 (twenty years ago) link

never sawe this thread originally, but i wanted to start a thread about sheep on drugs. i bought their tape the other day., sorta goth rave. i remember my brother having their album and thinking it dead subservise looking. but it was a bit pissy. the lyrics are awful, at any rate. can anyone recommend sheep on drugs stuff?

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 09:34 (twenty years ago) link

also baltimore breakbeat (thanks scott!)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

sheep on drugs were terrible, there is nothing to recommend

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:43 (twenty years ago) link

they had a cool logo though

ambrose (ambrose), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:45 (twenty years ago) link

Search:

Culture Beat - "Mr. Vain" & "Got to Get It"
Cosmic Baby - "Loops of Infinity" (not the album version, though)
Westbam - "Wizards of Sonic"
??? - "Don't Want No Short Dick Men"
??? - "Poing"
RMB - "Redemption", "Universe of Love", "Spring" etc.
Robert Miles - "Children"
Microglobe - "All Our Colors"
Jens - "Loops & Tings"
Robotnico II - "Backtired" (not the vocal version, though)
Raver's Nature - all their singles, basically (except "Fire")
Hardsequencer - "Plastic Fantastic", "Dancing Nations" & "Broadcast"
Tony di Bart - "The Real Thing"
D:Ream - "Things Can Only Get Better"
K-Klass - "Let Me Show You"
Westbam - "Wizards of the Sonic" & "Celebration Generation"
Marusha - her first LP (can't recall the title)
Utah Saints - "Utah Saints"

Tuomas (Tuomas), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 10:46 (twenty years ago) link

poing was rotterdam termination source

and, 'loops and tings'? people talk about that, its a trance classic!

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

i have a version from the love parade (2001 i think) and the crowd noise is completely deafening

charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 11:10 (twenty years ago) link

mid 90s house...

i have two Kiss In Ibiza compilations that i still think are fantastic

Cool Jack 'Jus Come'
Ian Pooley 'Rollerskate Disco'
all the Van Helden stuff, remixes ('Spin Spin Sugar' etc.)
Alcatrazz 'Gimme Luv'
Deep Dish 'Hideaway' of course

stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

S: Sash! "Adelante"

Rudolf (Rudolf), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 12:25 (twenty years ago) link

thanks!

Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 18:55 (twenty years ago) link

The Marco V remake of Loops & Tings is a massive, driving monster.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 23:44 (twenty years ago) link

CB Milton's "Send me an angel" and "It's a loving thing" certainly should not be omitted in this thread ;-)

Rudolf (Rudolf), Thursday, 11 December 2003 13:46 (twenty years ago) link

Search: Dana International "Diva"
La bouche "Be my lover"
Ice MC "Think about the way" / "It's a rainy day"
MC Sar & The Real McCoy "It's on you"


Rudolf (Rudolf), Thursday, 11 December 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

Destroy: everything by DJ Bobo

Rudolf (Rudolf), Thursday, 11 December 2003 13:50 (twenty years ago) link

THE COURSE 'READY OR NOT' and 'AIN'T NOBODY' covers

stevem (blueski), Thursday, 11 December 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

two years pass...
so what BREAKS tracks got played EVERYWHERE this year? [winkface]

2 american 4 u (blueski), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:12 (seventeen years ago) link

the ones that were remixes of electro and house tracks from last year...

Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 20 November 2006 16:17 (seventeen years ago) link


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