Nilsson - C or D?

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Yes — "Miss Butter's Lament" is among his best ever (which is why it's also on Personal Best, I suppose).

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:33 (eighteen years ago) link

... and why wasn't it on "Aerial Ballet"?!?!? After all, after "Daddy's Song" was dropped from the original album there was a big gaping hole in the first side of that record!

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

A good point.

You know, I wrote a song in the style of (Harry's lonely version of) "One" — the subject of which was Harry's rumoured death. It was called "Coffin Full of Stones" and, yes, recounted the Marianne Faithful story. You know that story, right, Dada?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:44 (eighteen years ago) link

I remember thinking that Marianne must have been at the crack pipe before she told that story but I can't remember the exact details of it

Oh No, It's Dadaismus (and His Endless Stupid Jokes) (Dada), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, that's about right — that his body was on the slab during the big LA earthquake in '94(?) and his body was lost into the ground. So, at his funeral, according to Marianne anyway, they put a bunch of rocks in his coffin so no one would notice. Regardless of its veracity, it's a great story — one I think the man himself would've appreciated...

"Cuddly Toy", btw, may be Harry's best song from that era. My gf (now fiance) positively adored that song — that is, until I told her what it was about...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
"Jump Into The Fire" is hot and trippy. I can't tell if I like or dislike the drums, however.

fizzcaraldo (Justin M), Monday, 2 January 2006 11:31 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
I've read many accounts of Harry Nilsson's final recording from the mid-90s having been completed just before he died - yet no release. How is this possible? Am I to believe that it is unspeakably horrible and someone is blocking its release?

Dominique (dleone), Friday, 3 March 2006 13:50 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of his later recordings were unspeakably horrible and were still released

Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 3 March 2006 13:54 (eighteen years ago) link

i recommend the point for children (of all ages). ...sings newman is simply glorius - actually, i like rather a lot of nilsson.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Friday, 3 March 2006 14:33 (eighteen years ago) link

I went through a period a year or two ago where I discovered Nilsson and couldn't stop buying his stupid records when I would see them for cheap at the thrift store. I now have one or two that I could live without (tried hard to like Son of Schmilsson and Touch of Schmilsson in the night...), but most of them have either grown on me or I loved them from minute one, so I'm starting to get back into picking them up. Finally got Nilsson Schmilsson and it's pretty much wall-to-wall stuff that will get stuck in my head for whole days at a time. "Gotta Get Up" is so fucking classic it's not funny. Generally I like him best when he applies himself to uptempo rock-flavored pop rather than pre-rock balladry; while obviously he has his moments with the latter, it's also where some of his worst pitfalls can be found... but when he keeps himself focused and the energy level high, it's all brilliance:

"He'd come to town
and he would hound her for a couple o' days
And then he'd sail across the bubbly waves
And those were happier daaaaays
but noooooooooooooooooooooooow..."

Aside from Schmilsson, The Point has to be my favorite of the ones I've got - the storytelling bits are way, way more enjoyable than they could have been, and the whole thing is very warm and sweet without being cloying. It's absolutely perfect for evenings spent inking comic books, or at least that's what I used it for.

Just yesterday picked up Rock N Roll, which seems to be a reissue of Spotlight on Nilsson, and also one of those rare records that doesn't seem to exist on AMG. Haven't gotten to really digest it yet - apparently Spotlight was a collection of minor studio recordings/demos from when he had access to a studio but before he had a contract of his own. Enjoyable but doesn't really jump out the speaker at least so far...

Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"Son of Schmilsson"

I love this record. It has to be one of the strangest follow ups to a smash-hit LP by a major artist. There's a strong "I'm not going to repeat the formula, but I'll mess up the expectations of my new fans instead" vibe to it that's fascinating (and makes the album title an intentional joke). God only knows what people who loved "Coconut" or "Without You" might have thought of "You're Breaking My Heart" when they first heard it.

And recording a song titled "I'd Rather Be Dead" with back up vocals from residents of a nursing home is twisted genius. Classic, I say.

James, Friday, 3 March 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Remember that it has "Remember" on it too (swoon)

Rotatey Diskers With Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 3 March 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link

And recording a song titled "I'd Rather Be Dead" with back up vocals from residents of a nursing home is twisted genius. Classic, I say.

Son of Schmilsson is one of his I've never heard, but I'm seeking it out right now for this reason alone.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Son of Schmilsson is great; I personally think "The Most Beautiful World in the World" is one of the funnier "nostalgic"/over the hill/death songs I've ever heard.

I see only one mention of Sandman on here -- which I've never heard; is it really bad? Can't say I'm not curious...

mike powell (mike powell), Saturday, 4 March 2006 15:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm not so sure about Son of. Pussy Cats actually gets a lot more of me than that one, which seems very tossed off in places.

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Son of... and Touch of... are getting reissued with "bonus tracks"

Beta (abeta), Saturday, 4 March 2006 16:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Is anyone else excited about the new Nilsson documetary? The trailer is available here:

http://www.lslproductions.com/wihn_home.html

Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 4 March 2006 17:49 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't even know about it, but I'm excited now!

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Saturday, 4 March 2006 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, really want to see that - read about at AiCN, and hope it's out on DVD soon

Dominique (dleone), Saturday, 4 March 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
I first heard 1941 in 1967, I think, but it was done by someone other than Nillson. Is anyone out there aware of who did the cover? It was released as a single (this is pre-album radio), but it never went anywhere on the charts and I couldn't even find it in the stores. This dates me completely, but I'd love to have that cover version to add to my collection. Any clues?

Melisse D, Sunday, 19 March 2006 11:46 (eighteen years ago) link


I have a cover of 1941 by Canadian singer/songwriter Tom Northcott, on a Warners 45 which must have been issued circa 67/68. It's a good version, though lacking a little of the melancholy of Nilsson's take, and was certainly never a hit in the UK or US (though it may have been in Canada: where are you?). Could it be the one you're looking for?

harvey.w (harvey.w), Sunday, 19 March 2006 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

one month passes...
oh man "Pussy Cats" is like the greatest album i've bought this year. nilsson's injured voice is a thing of beauty. 200 drugged-up musicians on every track -- Keith Moon on congas? why the hell not! it's like the most bad-idea-fueled thing i've ever heard. as greil marcus didn't say but should have, it is both the first punk album and the last one.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 19:35 (eighteen years ago) link

two months pass...
i just bought some australian import 3-disc nilsson anthology at virgin for 10 bucks. i've sort've been meaning to dig into him forever, and this anthology seems on the spotty side but even so it has more or less convinced me that i need to go buy everything he recorded. i can't decide if he's a better singer or songwriter. singer. songwriter. singer. hmm. hard call. the version of "subterranean homesick blues" from pussy cats is my new favorite dylan cover.

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 July 2006 04:46 (seventeen years ago) link

('jump into the fire,' holy shit)

gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 10 July 2006 06:03 (seventeen years ago) link

The new remaster of Son of Schmilsson is aces. One of the bonus tracks is his last top 40 side, the awesome "Daybreak" from "Son of Dracula"

Chairman Doinel (Charles McCain), Monday, 10 July 2006 18:39 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.lslproductions.com/wihn_home.html

Seattle Weekly says it "breaks no new ground" but still

W i l l (common_person), Tuesday, 18 July 2006 18:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'll be at the head of the queue come the British premiere!

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Heard about this a while ago. Can't wait to see it. In fact living near Edinburgh maybe I should see if it's on at the film festival!

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:35 (seventeen years ago) link

doesn't appear to be. damn.

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 08:36 (seventeen years ago) link

This seems to hold a kind of record for 'most often revived thread, without actually being that long..'

How true.

I dug up an old single, Kenny Everett singing 2 nilsson songs. How about that!

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:49 (seventeen years ago) link

What songs?

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/MarkGrout/P6190168.jpg
There we go. "Without Her" is on the b-side.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ahem.. Actual size.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Wow. This I have never heard of. Love Everett and Nilsson so this is very interesting. Was searching about and if you look at the second last post on this page

http://chilled.cream.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=812&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=20

then there is an mp3 of Harry Nilsson from an Everett radio show that's worth hearing. Unfortunately none of the other links on the thread appear to work.

mms (mms), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Keith Moon, Kenny Everett and Ringo Starr all covered Harry Nilsson songs - he seems to have been a favourite with "wacky" types

Dadaismus (Are we in love like I think we be?) (Dada), Wednesday, 19 July 2006 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

Regarding Nilsson's fucking with expectations on "Son of Schmilsson": He told a story about one record buyer who snapped the LP in half in response to "You're Breaking My Heart" and mailed it back to RCA.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Thursday, 20 July 2006 04:12 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I wanted to add a "classic" vote. The cover of "River Deep, Mountain High" on Pandemonium Shadow Show (better than the "remix" on Aerial Pandemonium Ballet though that one's great too) is so classic: sonically it's very similar to the original, with all the instruments save voice pretty much the same. But Nilsson does all the voices, and on the second verse (the one about the puppy) when he gets to the "I'm gonna be as faithful as that puppy" he shout/sings it and at that moment it's like the standards of faithfulness have been completely reset, like you can only really be faithful to another person if you can shout it that mountain high. It's like when Cash says "I find it very, very easy to be true", and you're like, wow, it's not easy for me at all, I've got some work cut out for me...Nilsson resets the standards of faithfulness too.

Euler, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

I remember Blue Peter creating a dance routine to Nilsson's "River Deep" (didn't know it was his version till many years later, it was that puppy line that registered w/me), with Lesley Judd of the Young Generation (the rest wus historie)

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:32 (sixteen years ago) link

i have been totally obsessed for the past like three months. everything about him is perfect - voice, songs, piano, personality, everything. classic, classic, classic.

Emily Bjurnhjam, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Funnily enough, I just dug up my 2CD "Ariel Pandemonium Ballet Show" cd set about an hour ago. And suddenly here's this thread.

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

how is Son of Schmilsson? seen that LP the other day, looked so cool. dunno why i didnt pick it up

rizzx, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link

its good. has the fuck you song.

chaki, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link

And Without You, of course.

Billy Pilgrim, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 01:11 (sixteen years ago) link

thats on nilsson schmilsson

chaki, Wednesday, 1 August 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Knnillssonn is very underrated. He definitely got his voice back after Pussy Cats.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link

just to say a little more it has a very ethereal, angelic quality to it. a bit Spector-esque with beautiful string arrangements and heavy reverb throughout. not much guitar except for wonderful acoustic playing and lots of Beach Boys style percussion. some of his best vocals and melodies of his career for sure. even the cover is heaven.

http://www.jefito.com/nilsson_knnillssonn.jpg

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:40 (sixteen years ago) link

actually, knnillssonn kind of depresses me. he doesn't sound blown out, but he does a little desensitized to me

Dominique, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link

haha im liking it tons and tons today. btw i posted a song from it on askchaki! board last week and it still seems to be an active link of anyone wants.

chaki, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link

+ i'll ask again: where in sf??

Dominique, Tuesday, 21 August 2007 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link


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