iPod Shuffle or iPod Mini? SO TORN.

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I have the intro-level 256mb iriver, and I can't recommend it enough. It's cheap, unbreakable, and tiny.

― Remy (null) (x Jeremy), Friday, 4 March 2005 23:47 (nineteen years ago) link

256 megs is not enough for me. I NEED THE ENTIRE BOREDOMS, CAN AND SUN O))) DISCOGRAPHIES.

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Saturday, 5 March 2005 03:29 (nineteen years ago) link

iTunes works just fine in the home. Sometimes it'll spit out a sequences that'll just bring me to my knees. How does it know? How does it know?

This is so OTM. I find myself doing this all the time.

― Dave B (daveb), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link

i heartily recommend anapod explorer. in fact, all the redchair stuff is absolutely fantastic, with new updates every few weeks on average. itunes for pc is a total clunker with a massive footprint - i thought we'd been through this?

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 6 March 2005 16:57 (nineteen years ago) link

'look in the lower right-hand corner of your iTunes window (on your computer, not your iPod) and find the clickable button with the picture of an iPod on it (there are two of these, you want the one that doesn't have an eject symbol on it). Click it, and you'll see the mythical preference pane that you didn't even know existed. Click the radio button next to "manually manage songs and playlists," and you're in business.' - http://www.billpalmer.net/ipodgarage/ipod000106.html

so apparently that turns off auto-sync. next step is to get songs onto the ipod w/o iTunes.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 March 2005 19:33 (nineteen years ago) link

which anapod seems to do, or this plugin apparently works very well too (for WinAmp) --> http://winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=138888

now for Mac versh.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 6 March 2005 19:40 (nineteen years ago) link

heretic

― Ed (dali), Sunday, 6 March 2005 19:49 (nineteen years ago) link

who didn't know the preference pane existed?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean apple's pretty clear about how to turn off auto-sync, this guy makes it seem like some sort of big secret. i don't know ANYONE (incl my computer-illiterate friends) who have kept it on, or not figured out how to do it. read one manual!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Sunday, 6 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

i got a shuffle for valentine's day, and really love it. i've got a pretty old 20gb pod that i'd been dragging to the gym in spite of the fact that the clip on the holder had snapped off, which meant i had to sling a little camera bag over my shoulder while working out. now i've just got the tiny thing aroung my neck, which i forget is there sometimes. i'm enjoying the shuffle, and haven't had any problems with it. it's so small and light that it'll be hard to go back to the big pod except when i'm travelling.

― colette (a2lette), Sunday, 6 March 2005 22:25 (nineteen years ago) link

I got a small Shuffle today to carry around - much better size than my old 20GB, so I can carry an ipod+keys+phone and other stuff without any trouble and without requiring a man-bag.

Also less breakable than a regular ipod, which means I can take it to work instead of lugging around a big radio and listening to sports talk when I'm by myself.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:35 (nineteen years ago) link

I got a small Shuffle today to carry around - much better size than my old 20GB, so I can carry an ipod+keys+phone and other stuff without any trouble and without requiring a man-bag.

POST-SCRIPT: This is exactly why I settled on the Shuffle. In the end, the tiny size won me over- here's to living backpack-free! I made my first playlist in iTunes (6 hours of high-quality MP3s and the damn thing isn't even full) on Friday, and have been rocking it all weekend. Best 2 bones-and-change I've spent in ages.

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 7 March 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

do you guys not have coat pockets? I mean, I would love to have shuffle w/ an order of magnitude more space... even if that means giving up on the screen, but the space is sooooo tiny!

― green uno skip card (ex machina), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:02 (nineteen years ago) link

do you guys not have coat pockets? I mean, I would love to have shuffle w/ an order of magnitude more space... even if that means giving up on the screen, but the space is sooooo tiny!

The Shuffle lives in a coat pocket right now! If you read upthread, you'll see that I was lamenting the size of my MP3 Discman, as it was an early, comparitively bulky model, and pretty much required the use of a man-purse.

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Monday, 7 March 2005 16:09 (nineteen years ago) link

Sony Unveils Line of Cheaper Flash Memory Walkmans
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=738&e=1&u=/nm/20050308/tc_nm/tech_sony_walkman_dc

― eman (eman), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 13:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I thought it was interesting the way those new sony models were shot down in practically identical fashion on both engadget and slashdot. I suppose there's a good deal of readership overlap, but still illustrates how Sony still has a long way to go, clever display technologies or no.

― TOMBOT, Wednesday, 9 March 2005 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a 40GB pod. I have about 20gB in my i-tunes library on my work laptop. The hard drive is full but....the laptop is about to be replaced with a new one, so I'm going to have to archive the library to portable hard-drive. I will then install i-tunes on the new laptop and fill up the other 20gB. Will I have any problems when I change computers in terms of the i-pod being tied to one computer? Something Fishfingers and Ed said upthread rang an alarm bell. Ed?

I won't have to reformat the flipping thing to get it to work with the new computer will I?

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:10 (nineteen years ago) link

No, you will have no problem at all, you made need a utility to pull the tunes off the iPod onto the new laptop. but you shouldn't have any problems.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:11 (nineteen years ago) link

do you guys not have coat pockets?

I wear a coat about seven days a year. Ten if we get a cold snap.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

**you made need a utility to pull the tunes off the iPod onto the new laptop**

Thanks, Ed.
I can do that via my external hard-drive, right? Just get tunes onto it and then load em back onto the new laptop.

Won't there be a problem when I reinstall the ipod software on the new laptop? I'll be using the same registration number as before, or something? (You can tell I've only had my i-pod since Valentine's day!)

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:11 (nineteen years ago) link

No. The only thing you will have to do is set up your music store account, if you have one, and de-authorise the old computer.

― Ed (dali), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 21:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ta. I don't have a music store account, so should be OK.

― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 10 March 2005 09:41 (nineteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

I've just got an Shuffle from my gf - I love it. I must be disciplined enough to not just listen to stuff I like on it.

― Dave B (daveb), Saturday, 9 April 2005 11:23 (nineteen years ago) link

why?

― happy fun ball (kenan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 12:49 (nineteen years ago) link

No, never mind. I know why.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 12:50 (nineteen years ago) link

because part of the present was Cafe del Mar and she's going to ask him about it later

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:59 (nineteen years ago) link

because the new Daft Punk album still has an outside chance of growing on you.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:19 (nineteen years ago) link

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/research/recording_head/pr/PerpendicularAnimation.html

― The Scottish Restauranteer (ex machina), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

err wrong thread

― The Scottish Restauranteer (ex machina), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:26 (nineteen years ago) link

errr i posted "wrong thread" in the wrong thread

― The Scottish Restauranteer (ex machina), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:27 (nineteen years ago) link

You have GOT to sober up. Have some water, then a nap. Off with you.

― happy fun ball (kenan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:36 (nineteen years ago) link

I had probably over 2 dozen jello shots last night...

― The Scottish Restauranteer (ex machina), Saturday, 9 April 2005 17:59 (nineteen years ago) link

student

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 9 April 2005 18:38 (nineteen years ago) link

ed, you might know this - how would i convert an omg (that *stupid* propietary sony sound file format) to a workable file that i can actually *hear*? we recorded a night we did on a sony minidisc and tried to export it to pc and it converted it to this idiotic kind of file and now we've lost the entire recording.

― stelfox, Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:45 (nineteen years ago) link

The easiest way is to play the minidisc into the computer.

Do you know what file format is?

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah the thing is that it's deleted the original recording and turned it into a ".omg" file. omg files seem to be a proprietary sony format which absolutely nothing that i know of will read (not as in "omg wtf", although they are aptly named) , but i thought there might be a way to crack it and convert it.

― stelfox, Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i thought i could get into it because i have programs that will red ".ogg" files but this has beaten all my sound software and it's a fucker because it was a really good night that we'd all like to keep a recording of!

― stelfox, Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I presume that that must be an ATRAC file. I can't find any software on the sony site to manipulate them. Can you load the file back onto the minidisc?

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 9 April 2005 19:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i can't get it back on there at all because it wasn't my minidisc, i have a mac and i don't have soundstage or whatever the hell the stupid program was that did this in the 1st place. i just got the file from my friend over slsk and thought i might be able to find a way to convert it into something workable. the only way i can figure it is by playing it thru soundstage on a pc coz i don't believe they do it for macs anyway, rerecording the whole damned thing, then playing that back thru a griffin imic and recoding it as an MP3 which is one hell of a longwinded way round what should be a simple thing to do.

― stelfox, Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:03 (nineteen years ago) link

problem with the atrac format, not only is it proprietary, but they don't even support all operating systems. The long winded way might be your only option. I always used to take the laptop down to gigs and record on that. My soundman ex housemate swears by a nicam stereo vhs recorder. 4 hour tapes and good dynamic range.

― Ed (dali), Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:13 (nineteen years ago) link

this is totally infuriating... why the hell would they market something as an *easy* way of getting minidisc files to computer and then make it so bollocking useless and complicated to rectify!? and tom bleeding cruise is on the telly. this is close to the worst saturday night ever!

― stelfox, Saturday, 9 April 2005 20:17 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...

so the ipod mini doesn't come with an ac adapter. does that mean that if i want to recharge it (duh), i have to buy a separate adapter for $25?

also what happens if you want to sync your ipod with itunes but you have more songs on itunes than can fit on your ipod?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

does that mean that if i want to recharge it (duh), i have to buy a separate adapter for $25?

no. you can charge off of your computer

also what happens if you want to sync your ipod with itunes but you have more songs on itunes than can fit on your ipod?

You have to set up iTunes to "choose" which "songs" to "put" on your
"iPod".

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 20 May 2005 19:16 (eighteen years ago) link

do you charge it off your computer via usb or something else?

"thanks"!

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Am, When you've plugged your ipod into the computer, a little logo will show up in Itunes. Click on it to see a list of everything currently on your ipod. You can click on songs (multiple by doing the usual ctrl button maneuver) and delete them that way. You can also go into your Itunes library and click on multiple songs and drag them over to your ipod logo. Ta da! More songs on your ipod, but not all from the library.

― Sarah McLusky (coco), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

so what's the best case for an ipod mini? or do i not really need a case?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 20 May 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

iPod mini is the worst of the iPods!

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 20 May 2005 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

really? but there are only really two ipods. (shuffle doesn't count.) i don't want to spend like $300 on the regular ipod.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 20 May 2005 20:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Dude its like $70 more for SO MUCH MORE room! The shuffle is nice because of the form factor.

Are you affiliated with an educational institution at all or know someone who is? You could try to get the nice education discount.

― A homunculus of Darby Crash, .... created for the purposes of *EVIL* (ex machina, Friday, 20 May 2005 21:06 (eighteen years ago) link

it's actually like $100 more. i did get the edumacation discount, but i still got t he ipod mini, because that's really stretching my budget as it is. and i can keep switching stuff in and out of it anyway.

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 21 May 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

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