NFL playoffs 2017/18: back again like marv

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Nail in the coffin

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:47 (one year ago) link

Awwwww

frogbs, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:47 (one year ago) link

I had under 44 here so this is nice but still I wish that had counted

So brutal for those fans

frogbs, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:49 (one year ago) link

A one point game

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:51 (one year ago) link

Though a probly was really 3 because they went 4 two 2 point conversions

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

* Voice recognition

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:52 (one year ago) link

Go Rams

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:54 (one year ago) link

okay i wasn't watching, how did this happen besides lol chieves

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:57 (one year ago) link

Well that's exactly what happened

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:58 (one year ago) link

dick 'halftime adjustments' lebeau i suppose

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2018 00:59 (one year ago) link

They dominated the 1st half

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:00 (one year ago) link

So lol at them chocking

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:01 (one year ago) link

"Marcus Mariota passed to Marcus Mariota to the left for 6 yard touchdown (Ryan Succop made PAT)"

Just checked the score and saw this description, that must have been a weird play.

Andy Reid is a forever goat. He can go get him a chair next to Marty at the old coaches home.

earlnash, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:04 (one year ago) link

hey, andy reid is the most innovative hc in the league right now

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:07 (one year ago) link

Marcus Mariota threw a TD to himself. WHAT?! #Chiefs #Titans pic.twitter.com/53KFxA5cUh

— Clay Wendler (@ClayWendler) January 6, 2018

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:08 (one year ago) link

lol @ chefs

johnny crunch, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:12 (one year ago) link

WR Julio Jones will be INACTIVE today against the LA Rams #ATLvsLA

— Atlanta Falcons (@AtlantaFalcons) December 11, 2016

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:12 (one year ago) link

Fuck yay

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:13 (one year ago) link

Wouldn't matter anyways

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:13 (one year ago) link

I think I'm the only Rams fan on this board

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:27 (one year ago) link

I don't think this will be like 2010 for me

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:28 (one year ago) link

there will be no points this game

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:31 (one year ago) link

Lol. Aren't the Rams the highest scoring team

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:32 (one year ago) link

In the league?

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

bnw was our st louis rams fan but st louis no longer has rams and ilx no longer has bnw

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

i love when the ball boinks around

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:33 (one year ago) link

I'm a former San Francisco 49 er fan

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:39 (one year ago) link

But f*** them plus they moved out of San Francisco

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:39 (one year ago) link

i desperately hate how the rams have a little piece of their gold uniform on their sleeves

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:40 (one year ago) link

the rams & 9rs r historic enemies

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:41 (one year ago) link

i am in favour of the gold sleeve detail, we are now enemies

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:44 (one year ago) link

thats so fd up man

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:50 (one year ago) link

Seeing that play, I guess Mariotta has a play for the career playoff reel.

Chef fans have to have some angst. They have had a decent number of winning clubs that have not done bupkus in the playoffs like over 20 years. It's a weight lesser than what towns like Cleveland carry, but the Chiefs could not get it done even with Joe Montana.

earlnash, Sunday, 7 January 2018 01:56 (one year ago) link

still sad about the 13-3 herm/trent green chiefs

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:03 (one year ago) link

also, mariota's best play of the game was the run block he threw on that game killing 3rd down conversion

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:04 (one year ago) link

there shd be a timeout flag just my opinion give the coaches more flags

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 02:09 (one year ago) link

ATL and LA look pretty evenly matched. ATL's D line was really pushing LA around early in the game.

earlnash, Sunday, 7 January 2018 03:16 (one year ago) link

rams made things happen at the end of the first half by changing up their approach on offense and for some reason they are back to getting murdered by the atlanta d line and running for -3y on 1st down

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 03:48 (one year ago) link

ugh that fucking 3rd down draw, assholes

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 03:54 (one year ago) link

rip los amgeles football

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:12 (one year ago) link

this drive is funny do they know they need two tds

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:14 (one year ago) link

Just dump it off and burn some clock good thinking

Spottie, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:18 (one year ago) link

v weak. atl has been v good tbf but rams offense has been sad

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:19 (one year ago) link

damn wanted to see the famous onside kick

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:19 (one year ago) link

well, smart money now is on both falx and pats back in their respective conf champ games. super bowl revenge match v much live

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:23 (one year ago) link

they shd agree to a play for play reenactment of last year

lag∞n, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:24 (one year ago) link

give the fans what they want

Roberto Spiralli, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:25 (one year ago) link

Well that didn't work out

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:32 (one year ago) link

Rams got outcoached tonight

Bee OK, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:39 (one year ago) link

bobby spirals 0-2

but at least you got some bee ok

mookieproof, Sunday, 7 January 2018 04:54 (one year ago) link

i'm not going to say that any qb could've had foles's 2013 season since i have seen nfl qbs miss wide open receivers enough times, but that season was 100% scheme and foles was just making uncontested throws to wide open dudes. for one year chip's offense was a legit phenomenon in pro ball, sui generis, and other teams needed all season long to figure out how to counter it. foles has been below average to bad nearly every other game he played outside the season, until last night's performance where a couple times that worked dudes wide open e.g. the jeffrey bomb, but he was just making incredible plays otherwise. that one game means more to the evaluation of foles than the whole of 2013 imo.

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:11 (one year ago) link

only 2 qbs have ever completed more than 75% of their passes in two back-to-back playoff games. that's a kind of lol stat but still.

Mordy, Monday, 22 January 2018 20:13 (one year ago) link

what a horrible sport that ends in making either Philly or New England happy

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:01 (one year ago) link

otm

mookieproof, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:04 (one year ago) link

fair. you must be delighted that neither the sox or phillies have won the stickball championships recently

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:06 (one year ago) link

i did root for the phillies when they played the yankees in stickball that one time

mookieproof, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:09 (one year ago) link

yeah didn't make it to the end of that Series

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:22 (one year ago) link

this is tough -- the pats are pure evil, have been much too good the last 15 years and could tie the steelers with six titles

otoh, philly

mookieproof, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:39 (one year ago) link

the super bowl of hate

khat person (jim in vancouver), Monday, 22 January 2018 21:47 (one year ago) link

ty for the thread title my mans

Roberto Spiralli, Monday, 22 January 2018 21:50 (one year ago) link

ok, in my quest to understand the nfc championship game, i have learned the following:

the ringer published a completely content- and analysis-free 'article' called Everything the Vikings Are Good at Failed Against the Eagles. however, the title was the most important part of the whole thing and succinctly nails the game. p much everything that the vikings do well they were bad at and everything that has worked for them this season stopped working.

the vikings defense is in some ways very aggressive. not that they are blitzing all the time, but they play right in your face. on pass plays the safeties hardly ever drop deep in coverage and instead they hang around the gain line and make the short/intermediate part of the field very condensed, effective against the run and effective against the pass if you don't give up big plays doing it. their dbs are all good enough that they can play close in and dare qbs to try to go over them, and the danger of passes completed in front of them breaking into big YAC plays is minimized because the whole defense is one of the best tackling units in the league.

all of that went wrong. first, they couldn't tackle for shit. multiple times the eagles completed short of the sticks on 3rd down and the vikings couldn't wrap them up. really just a bizarre drop off. second, they made the pass plays minnesota was betting they couldn't. 2 factors here. first is scheme - pederson game planned out of his mind on this one, had a player as good as harrison smith, the clear best safety in football this year, chasing his tail on plays like the jeffrey bomb. 2nd cb trae waynes - who is not xavier rhodes but who was a 1st round pick who really came on as the season progressed - was totally victimized. visibly humiliated on the flea flicker but also gave up over 100y and 2 tds total. second factor was nick foles who was apparently just as good as he looked. rated as his best ever play by play performance, better even than his 7 td game vs oakland in 2013. perfect passer rating and qbr in the second half.

on offense, the vikes acknowledged their weakness - the o-line - and devised a game plan around getting the ball out quickly. this had worked for them during the regular season and as i noted before the game, keenum was also one of the best qbs in the nfl vs pressure. however, even with 3 step drops and keenum never having the ball much longer than a couple seconds, the eagles still managed to pressure him on 50% of dropbacks which is actually terrifying. the eagles front just brutally and thoroughly mauled them. they rattled keenum and didn't even give him time to loft hopeful 50/50s to thielen or diggs downfield, the cornerstone of their offense.

there were definitely other major factors, for sure the 14 points off turnovers in the first half had a massive impact on the way the game developed, but essentially this game was about the vikings being bad at what they do well, the eagles being good at what they do well, and nick foles turning into 2010 aaron rodgers.

Roberto Spiralli, Wednesday, 24 January 2018 01:45 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRxiK3xW8Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z58Ad7IVaA

these are really terrific, recaps with a bit of tactical breakdown thrown in

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 January 2018 00:46 (one year ago) link

foles is so normcore, love him

k3vin k., Friday, 26 January 2018 05:11 (one year ago) link

Foals did have a great 2013 season, but it seems passer rating is losing it's significance more and more with each year. I mean, Tony Romo has essentially the same career rating as Tom Brady and I can almost guarantee you he won't be getting in the hall of fame.

Rod Steel (musicfanatic), Friday, 26 January 2018 18:39 (one year ago) link

well, no one is going in the HOF based on passer rating, that is certainly true. as i was saying upthread, football stats are pretty bad all round. i like the ways folks like football outsiders and PFF are building metrics that try to do things like measure passes irrespective of catches and taking account of on-field situations, but there are infinite variables and the holy grail of a stat that tidily and definitively describes qb performance is likely a fantasy. but take a bunch of different datapoints together and hopefully you see something consistent. as phil simms famously said, "data analysis in football is like a georges seurat painting"

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:05 (one year ago) link

yeah passer ratings for the legendary QBs of the 80s like Elway and Marino were pedestrian compared to today's QBs but that's because completion percentages are higher as so many offenses use screens and dump-offs whereas Elway/Marino flung the ball downfield most of the game.

Tannehill had passer ratings that were higher than Marino posted in many seasons and was hated by a large chunk of his fanbase....cos it really doesn't mean much anymore.

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Friday, 26 January 2018 19:23 (one year ago) link

i vote for romo

lag∞n, Friday, 26 January 2018 19:26 (one year ago) link


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