*it's styrofoam so nothing dramatic happens*
― remember the lmao (darraghmac), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:00 (six years ago) link
the only acceptable working class soft drink is tea in a mug apparently. fuck that.
― not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 January 2018 14:35 (six years ago) link
Guess Piers likes croissants and lattes.
To all demented anti-Trump haters already working themselves into a steaming rage about my new interview, here’s an idea: don’t watch it. Just put your sandals on, eat some lentils & smoke some waccy baccy. But don’t watch, it will only make you scweam & scweam until you’re sick. pic.twitter.com/RCD1Bo3uB9— Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) July 13, 2018
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:07 (five years ago) link
Not sure what’s wrong with sandals or lentils.
― devops mom (silby), Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:16 (five years ago) link
great thread
― mark s, Saturday, 14 July 2018 18:19 (five years ago) link
not sure what's wrong with waccy baccy either tbh
― look, you’re just gonna get gravy on the baby sometimes 🤷♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:17 (five years ago) link
Piers is waccy enough already
― more like Toss, Ow amirite? (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
he's never struck me as a downers man
― look, you’re just gonna get gravy on the baby sometimes 🤷♂️ (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 14 July 2018 19:19 (five years ago) link
Is there something to be said in this connection about the tradition of newspaper journalists getting very worked up because a celebrity has been found ... taking cocaine??!!?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 15 July 2018 19:59 (five years ago) link
I find all this really interesting though. I was in the shop just now - all these demonised things, the hummus, kale, qinoa, lattes, organic, etc, etc, are all thoroughly standard. Everywhere. Cheap. Everyone buying them. And the food options in lowest common denominator beer and a burger pubs are all, you know, done up so as to include all this stuff.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 15 July 2018 20:05 (five years ago) link
At some point in the 1980s quiche became the totem food that ultra-manly men claimed all unmanly men regaled themselves upon. Now it's just... quiche.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 July 2018 20:24 (five years ago) link
'The Botanist' chain of pubs and the status of prosecco must fit into this too.
Maybe the demonisation of the ____ munching, _____ swilling liberals is less to do with their supposedly luxurious tastes (as the accuser implies or want us to think) and more to do with how normal they are, how on-trend? They only have liberal opinions because it's fashionable, see, just like lattes and hummus are fashionable?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 15 July 2018 20:32 (five years ago) link
Morgan has always acted about 20 years older than he really is. It's strange.
― shaqiri tip (nashwan), Sunday, 15 July 2018 20:33 (five years ago) link
there has been a bit of a Kale backlash in recent times and I'm a bit of a fan tbh, although I did lol the other day when some bitchy celeb-chef type dismissed it as "basic winter food for cows".
― calzino, Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:17 (five years ago) link
Kale was extremely old-fashioned and unpopular just two decades ago.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 July 2018 21:36 (five years ago) link
their supposedly luxurious tastes (as the accuser implies or want us to think)
Note that they never refer to something actually luxurious, e.g. "liberal elites driving BMWs to their ski vacations". Not that I fully understand this rhetorical move but it seems to depend on some sort of David Brooks worldview where class differences have more to do with cultural refinement/sophistication/snobbery than actual wealth - the latter of which might actually be a sign of being in touch with the interests and concerns of the common man. In the last round of debates for the Conservative Party leadership in Canada, one Canada said something dismissive of economists like "when have you seen a wealthy economist? They're sitting in ivory towers, sipping on tea and coffee [latte?], instead of making money."
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Sunday, 15 July 2018 23:45 (five years ago) link
how many Canadas you got anyhow
― devops mom (silby), Sunday, 15 July 2018 23:58 (five years ago) link
Ha, candidate, sorry. Too much wine.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 16 July 2018 00:10 (five years ago) link
Sipped a Pinot Noir like the elitist I am.
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Monday, 16 July 2018 00:11 (five years ago) link
Note that they never refer to something actually luxurious, e.g. "liberal elites driving BMWs to their ski vacations"
Ahhhhhh yes this feels like a key point. Because that would bring questions of wealth into play.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 16 July 2018 21:00 (five years ago) link
ctrl-f "avocado toast"
― aloha darkness my old friend (katherine), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 14:17 (five years ago) link
^^what I ate for lunch
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 17:55 (five years ago) link
Never seen them going more than about a quid
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Tuesday, 17 July 2018 20:25 (five years ago) link
i haven't read this yet but judging by reviews and the author's twitter it's the book of the thread:
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/e76fb582-cde2-496e-b7e1-469f4952f149_1.f66c6e3fe6ea02688066ae5108109eaa.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:05 (five years ago) link
omg that cover
― Chase Knobbe? Have you Courtney Cox? (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link
my first thought was: Is that Berkoff in the middle. But as a cover design it is some ugly, lazy shit!
― calzino, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:24 (five years ago) link
the book looks good but yes they shd have gone with the wall of gammon (crepey meatstuffs remix)
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:40 (five years ago) link
A chapter on The Dialectics of Banter revisits the sitcoms of the 1990s, characterising their mandated wackiness as a kind of “inverted sententiousness”, and noting that a similar sense of performative proletarian iconoclasm also informed the works of Young British Artists such as Tracey Emin and Damien Hirst.
might check it out, he said in a preformative prole voice!
― calzino, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:48 (five years ago) link
i mean that's a p terrible read of most of hirst's OR emin's work
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:54 (five years ago) link
Got involved in a convo with him a few months ago and I think he either posted or lurked on ilx 10+ years ago.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
yes not their *work, but not on how they presented themselves to the media, but it would be a more appropriate description of Sarah Lucas' work, perhaps.
* or absolute fucking garbage, as I'd call it!
― calzino, Sunday, 22 July 2018 12:58 (five years ago) link
TS: wall of gammon vs wallogina
― ||||||||, Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:06 (five years ago) link
xyzzzz__: yes i'm p sure he's a one-time denizen of dissensus, he's buds with all the right types
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:10 (five years ago) link
(lol that came across more snidey than intended)
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:14 (five years ago) link
lol he didn't seem to like ilx very much. Very much one of the K-Punk (blog-era) lot, I think.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 July 2018 13:57 (five years ago) link
tbf the secret motto of dissensus was "butthurt about ilx"
― mark s, Sunday, 22 July 2018 14:01 (five years ago) link
yup.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 22 July 2018 14:32 (five years ago) link
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/10/31/global-britain-can-exist-immigration-time-conservatives-relearnt/
"It’s time to face facts: liberals have lost the battle on immigration. Despite our self-assuring groupthink, where we gather around our almond-milk lattes and grumble about the backlash to our treasured freedom of movement, it’s becoming increasingly clear that most of the country thinks we’re badly out of touch. It appears as though we, in our metropolitan hubs, haven’t clocked the wider effects of immigration on working class people and on individual communities."
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 17:50 (five years ago) link
a series of comment pieces by young people, for young people, to provide a free-market response to Britain's biggest issues
― la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 18:37 (five years ago) link
One of them's by Liz Truss, 43.
― Alma Kirby (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:12 (five years ago) link
individual communities under the sea
― nashwan, Wednesday, 31 October 2018 19:28 (five years ago) link
i'm not the world's biggest atrios fan (and was thinking UK-wards when i started the thread) but this:
centrist pundit: elitist liberals and their starbucks-going latte-swilling ways will never play in real americaalso centrist pundit: what real americans in the heartland want is the billionaire guy who made starbucks— Atrios (@Atrios) January 31, 2019
― mark s, Thursday, 31 January 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link
Tbf does anyone actually support Schultz’s presidential bid?
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:12 (five years ago) link
centrist pundits iirc
― |Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 1 February 2019 02:53 (five years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/oct/05/north-london-trail-of-the-liberal-elite
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
"a journey"
― mark s, Saturday, 5 October 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link
Presumably John Harris is stuck in Stoke.
― Dan Worsley, Saturday, 5 October 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
Stephen Kinnock, married to the former PM of Denmark, is on LBC talking with contempt about "people who go to coffee bars in London."— Frédéric Moreau (@goodclimate) December 18, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link
rest assured stephen that your insistence on supporting the status quo will soon lead to the global collapse of agriculture so no-one will be visiting coffee bars ever again, congrats
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 19 December 2019 11:51 (four years ago) link
Stephen, is that you?https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2018/jun/02/how-i-eat-stephen-kinnock-mp
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 19 December 2019 12:04 (four years ago) link