POX: Moments from "Heat" (Michael Mann)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSNgMSvaHZ8

elite unit of cops led by an unorthodox dude chasing after (and making it known to them that he's chasing them) a gang of professional thieves who rip off an armored truck and then risk it all on a huge score. the credits even mention a character named "Bosco."

i didn't even notice there appears to be a post-heist street shootout of some sort. wondering if Bosco gets shot in the neck and dies in the street in this one too.

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad

Gerard Butler appears to be letting his badge and his toothpick do the heavy lifting when it comes to acting here.

is that movie as HEAT-like as the trailer makes out? because it looks like a remake.

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad

think you're overselling it

it was fucking agony in the cinema, would've walked if i hadn't been with other people

in the new version, the line is "her ass SUCKS and is BAD"

the love the subtext of the cops being as bad if not worse than the bad guys is revealed by Gerard Butler holding up his badge and saying 'you're not the bad guys, we are'

So many good Pacino unnecessarily loud non sequiters in this

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad

― pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:29 (six months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

"dead-tech, postmodernistic bullshit house"
― N_RQ, Monday, August 1, 2005 2:41 AM (twelve years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

even as a teenager this line stuck out like a sore thumb and made me lol

"The information's out there - you just gotta know how to catch it" or w/e

"This Dead-Tech, Postmodernistic Bullshit House: Noir as Form and Function in Heat"

So many good thesis titles in this movie.

So many good Pacino unnecessarily loud non sequiters in this

― calstars, Saturday, July 7, 2018 7:52 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

probably mentioned upthread, but according to Pacino his character was a cokehead and that informed his performance but Mann cut out all direct references to that.

ohhhh

Pacino probably says that about all of his characters.

After sitting through the moderated conversation in Paris, Faïd got his hands on a microphone during the audience Q&A. Faïd had recently been released from prison—where he served 10 years for assorted armed robberies and jewel heists—and explained as much to the filmmaker (and audience).

“Heat remains the absolute example of organized crime, inspired by life, by people—real facts—he tries to transmit them in his cinema,” Faïd began (via translation). “I personally, I am a former gangster, unfortunately, I do not brag about it. I just spent 10 years in prison. I attacked armored vans. . . . For 20 years, I’ve known Michael Mann. I discovered him with Thief, and, with a bunch of friends, we’ve watched his films a bit as reports, as documentaries, and sometimes even . . . ”

Faïd, starstruck as he was, stumbled a bit before regaining his focus.

“Recently, journalists asked me, ‘You know, you had a big criminal career, and you did it yourself, you’re self-taught.’ I told them, ‘No, I had a technical adviser, a college teacher, a kind of mentor, and his name is Michael Mann.’”

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/07/redoine-faid-french-prison-escape-hollywood-michael-mann

The scene when he’s chewing gum and driving at night, stops at a light and kicks the TV out of the passenger side door, then tears off through the intersection...the fine Colombian

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-well-you-know-for-me-the-action-is-the-juice-tom-sizemore-62-24-11.jpg

I love how Pacino is clearly about to say "big" before he says "GREAT ASS!"

have we discussed how the script gave pacino's character a coke habit, which explains all the manic energy and overripe line readings, but mann took that motif out in the edit?

IMO dialogue is central to few of the best moments from this movie.

this movie is nearly 25 years old btw! i guess it's been an official classic for nearly a decade now. deservedly.

fun fact: this movie sucks and is bad
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the worst moment is

"i'm scots irish. my family emigrated to appalachia in the late 1700s."

Tom Sizemore's diner stare is one of my favorite shots in this.

everyone in this film has an amazing house, except Waingro who stays in a series of cheap motels until the end when he's earned some cash for being a rat and upgrades to an airport hotel.

Trejo’s house (stilts not visible from street view) https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/1219-Dodds-Cir-90063/home/6957172

Hey Edie Brickell, what’s the latest?

some great stills in this piece

https://www.lataco.com/where-the-movie-heat-was-shot-in-la/

Great article, thanks

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— robert franco, wandering ronin (@responsiblerob) December 22, 2021

What’s the Fieri connection to den of thieves?

There's a great French movie called Braqueurs (Netflix changed it to the ultra-generic The Crew) that's like Heat condensed to 80 minutes. It's directed by Julien Leclercq; worth finding if you can. Here's an unsubtitled trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jBC7XBVhH8

there’s a series called ganglands, same director

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this is the best gay movie of
all
time

I mainly remember the use of Neubauten's Armenia as a theme for one character. Is it Val Kilmer's wife. a snippet crops up each time they appear.
wondered if it had anything to di withh Rollins being in the film. He has a large EN symbol on his arm

I think it reappears a couple of times in the Informant too

I have very little memory of the movie (except Ashley Judd's heartbreakingly poignant warning move). My main association is now the Moby cover of "New Dawn Fades"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynA1dO9Kx8s

That's the version that's on the 24 Hour Party People soundtrack; there's a different version in the film, which is okay but a bit more plodding and lacks the requisite urgency

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN5hSvu1dzw

Podcast that does a Minute by minute analysis of the movie
https://open.spotify.com/show/39GMGljDTd8maGzNhK4enI?si=TlQ4F90LTzOE2B6NHAZi_g

https://i.imgur.com/lzmRj7N.png

This must have been one of my first 15 or 20 mp3s in the early days of Napster:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHc-3tNoAB8

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— Russell (@RussellHFilm) May 26, 2022

So here's a thing

https://fxrant.blogspot.com/2023/01/heat-alternate-edit-of-coffee-shop-scene.html

Fellow "Heat" (1995) fans - I just found an amazing Easter Egg on the Blu-ray. It's an early edit of the infamous Pacino/De Niro coffee shop scene, created early in the film's production when director Michael Mann wanted the scene to be shorter and have a lot less dialogue. It's much moodier and more threatening than the final version, if you ask me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JllQtCEkhpA

lol I thought that was silly, almost like a fan-edit gag. What I appreciate in the original/film is the familiar Mann motif of men so wed to their professions that it encompasses their life at the cost of everything around them. The characters are fully aware of the price they are paying but are compelled, even doomed to their respective pursuits all the same. I didn't find either cut particularly menacing or threatening. If anything I love how mundane it is, underscored by Hanna's line "We're sitting here like a coupla regular fellas," even though both understand they are anything but.

JOSH

hahaha omg

Oh, wait, is it a fan-edit gag?

such a well-acted scene

We watched this tonight. My wife’s concluding comments were “well that was long”. Smh

Also that was Henry Rollins???!?! Man was made to be a goon!

Poor Ralph

A guest host on a movie review podcast just described Heat as “hot men being sad”

I didn’t think Ralph was that hot

But he was sad

how generous it is with screen time for even minor characters like poor Dennis Haysbert

a perfect scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QhttjrOg5A

Goddamn that scene!!!

I'd have to revisit Thief again, but otherwise Heat is probably the one Michael Mann film I'd watch and enjoy again. It's the quintessential Mann film, for better and worse. It's great how even a minor character like Haysbert can feel so tragic, but the film's also marred by things like "I've got three dead bodies on a sidewalk off Venice boulevard, Justine, I'm sorry if the goddamn chicken got overcooked."

“You ex/husband’s post modern dead tech bullshit house”

"marred"

Maybe I've missed it, but I'm surprised there hasn't been a scene in a Michael Mann film where two guys sit down and simply go "WOMEN. Am I right??"

His name is Michael Mann for <a reason>

Maybe in “Ferrari”

lol I forgot Henry Rollins and Tone Lōc were in it