thread to dis hyped releases that you don't get/don't like/wanna complain about

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as requested: sacred paws is just insipid tropical good-vibesy nothingcore imo, but it's no big deal really. if absolutely everyone loved it then I'd be more vituperative but they're a minor concern just doing what they're doing and that can remain someone else's business

imago otm

LOL @ hurt butts itt

Jlin - if I wanted to hear a quantized sample of a CD skipping, I'd listen to an Oval CD from 1999

what if you wanted to hear CDs skipping with heavy 808 bass beneath? oval has non 808 bass

also: king krule rools, u all drool

I know this is going to make me unpopular but I'm just gonna say it, I don't think Yes needed to release another live album in 2017

oh no u

just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.

i'll just get this out of the way: most of the 2017 music is bad

― brimstead, Friday, December 15, 2017 3:58 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i feel this way too? idk. there is little that i feel excited about or drawn to when i go through most 2017 lists

i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort

but i think that's down to the age of the listener (toll of 24 years of active music hipsterism) rather than the quality of the music

just don't say it at late at night in the U.S.

I don't really feel that way late at night for whatever reason

Jlin - one track limit with her stuff, just is way too maddening and jarring - def of acquired taste

that was just a tautology, most music from every year is bad

but

i totally agree w/r/t almost everything that isn't a house 12" or a reissue of some sort

yeah same here

vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs

i like literally dozens of records that came out this year but somehow i still wind up listening to nothing but '70s music all the time

at some point i'll stop pretending but not until i run out of disk space

Wow @ people shitting on Jlin. I thought Black Origami was way more interesting/fun than Dark Energy

my assumption is that they are new to footwork in general and don't really *get it* yet

Loved the final ;_; DJ Rashad album but this has been a bit arid for my tastes. Might return to it

"arid" is a good way to put it

i definitely didn't get it till i saw her live at Day For Night, experiencing it in a physical space really made me engage with the album on physical terms instead of approaching it conceptually like i had been. it's tougher to crack than Rashad for sure, mostly because Rashad consciously aimed to create a "pop"-ish version of footwork and Jlin has absolutely no interest in that from what i can tell.

I think my only problem with Jlin is how people write about it, "futuristic sound design" comes up a lot. To my ears her tracks are these very dense, pointillistic arrangements of one-shot samples that haven't been altered much, they sound like sample packs. And that's very 'footwork', it's fine. Her main innovation imo is doubling down on the 12/8 feel that has been creeping into footwork, and turning it into this West African polyrhythmic thing.

I try not to post too much about music I don't like, cos this is I Love Music after all, and tbh I haven't heard that much 2017 music that I don't like apart from some generic hardcore/punk records that nobody here (save maybe DJ Mencap) listens to anyway. BUT! I can say I heard a King Krule single and thought it was shit! Participation!

Jordan, i definitely get that and i think it's mostly people mistaking density for innovation. i'm more interested in the cultural implications of, like you said, her blend of footwork with west african polyrhythmic stuff than i am in the ~experimentalness~ of it all.

xp i agree w the big main point of what you're saying jordan but 1) iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami and 2) it isn't just about the individual samples but also the mixing, mastering, etc. on a big-ass system jlin's tracks sound heavy and massive in a way that old footwork tracks don't

I buy that, even seeing a live clip from awhile back gave that sense.

iirc jlin made her own samples for black origami

I still don't buy this, although I guess it depends on the definition of what makes a sample your own. And I'm mostly talking about the percussion anyway. It's ok, not everyone has to record their own samples. I am curious to hear that dance score that she did, it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.

Late great , that assumption is wrong in my case

duly noted

fwiw ppl in chicago dont really see her stuff as 'footwork' any more, its def more of a hybridization thing

(i quite like it)

I adore Jlin and the album will be very very high on my list (fuck, it might even win it), but I kind of agree with people that it's not that "futuristic" or "experimental". The techniques and stylisation aren't super new, they just sound fucking awesome.

I probably should stay away from this thread, though, b/c it'll just bum me out.

xp deej is footwork still a going concern in chicago? or are the kids onto some new trend?

its fallen off as a super popular thing basically as rap music started to rise, but there are def people who still hold onto it & do events at schools and shit like that

seem to remember that 'experimental' was suggested by jlin herself as an alternative to 'footwork', but if neither of those are any good then what the heck do you call this music? two things i'd say to the haterz tho: spotify + earbuds or whatever don't really do justice to this record, and also it's the last songs on the album that are the real bangers imo, especially 1%: "you're all going to die here"

oh fuck i screwed up the quote already

1% is def placing well on my tracks ballot

it would be cool to hear what a Jlin track that's not 160bpm in 12/8 sounds like.

she has several tracks that are around 120bpm.

all the stuff i really hate is so niche it feels too mean to shit on it. but there's some real stinkers out there getting undeserved praise

nah, you should go all friedrich niche and denounce these recondite idols

they don't deserve the esteem of upwards of ten blogs!

srsly

bring it on

ogmor bile is amongst the more restoratively potent on ilx atm

it's actually extremely overrated and superficial

superficiality of bile is one of its more refined characteristics. a connoisseur can really pick it out and appreciate it

anyhow until I am more reliably informed I am going to assume ogmor is being so crass as to inwardly impugn kasabian

vote gabor lazar this year for your "sounds like cd skipping" needs

― brimstead, Tuesday, January 9, 2018 12:19 PM (three days ago)

Isn't that like, all gabor lazar output? ...

so? vote for him, his stuff rules

i don't know anybody else besides mark fell who does that SSRI withdrawal brain zap sound that's like a deep brain massage

st vincent is so, so terrible now. and i liked her before, a bit

Yep

Good god, the Equiknoxx album is awful. I’m not sure of the last time I was so consistently annoyed by a record. Dancehall with all the reasons people like dancehall stripped out is not a promising concept to begin with but it surely doesn’t have to sound like an Ableton Live abandoned sketches folder.

Re: top 77 tracks

Poptimism needs to die, it's been going on for too long. Pop neutrality is the only reasonable attitude.

xp I like it. I like them. I like their productions with and without vocals. Colon Man is admittedly a bit less fun than Bird Sound Power. The albums work as DJ tools for me (to get an mv to work with) or as an avantgarde extension of dancehall that you can mix into other styles. Do people feel the same about dub music etc?