But Will There Be Corgis? Thread Where We Discuss Netflix's THE CROWN

We're looking for something to binge. Watched the first three episodes of the first season - does it stay that good?

Yes. If anything, it gets better.

Definitely better. The swanky Margaret stuff is way more fun than Churchill in the fog, for instance.

agreed on that point, yes.

really curious to see what the next season of this is going to be like with different actors.

Well, except for the inbred parasite part. https://t.co/dYZxPc6tx1

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 16, 2018

also parasitic freeloaders freeholders is another good reason to see if the remains of L Mountbatten's skull would make a good dog frisbee.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/reviews-recommendations/unsane-steven-soderbergh-experiment-paranoia?utm_content=bufferd2cce&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

are there any corgis in that y/n

p sure n

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV6RicRcjW0

this is going to be sensational, maybe use the same actors when this gets to s09.

And we have the new Prince Philip:

#TheCrown Sets Tobias Menzies as Prince Philip https://t.co/me9GCN2awV pic.twitter.com/31FyMDHoQ0

— Hollywood Reporter (@THR) March 28, 2018

Hmm. He's got the look but I've never seen him act as well as Foy, Smith or Olivia Colman.

Hey so when will Margaret find out about Tony's polio leg?

Menzies was good in Casino Royale, and he was a+ in HBO’s Rome. I approve of the casting

He was really good in a dual role on Outlander. He'll do fine.

I'm five episodes into this now (finished the coronation earlier today). Already missing Foy and Smith knowing that they won't be around in future seasons and I still have 15 episodes of them to get through.

stoked for the future trump episode(s), he will be CANCELLED

herself will be played by olivia de havllland (103 in july), philip will literally just be some bones they throw around the room

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECpV52ZUcAEp4Gp?format=jpg&name=medium

Charles Moore spokesman for the Royal Physiognomy Trust.

footman, fetch me my callipers, i fear i see before me a skull of a distinctly suffragist shape

i mean to be fair to the lad he couldn’t look more like a sneering jackboot enthusiast if he tried

https://secure.i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03460/charles-moore-marg_3460335b.jpg

I look forward to future tech facial recognition software that can identity enemies of the people from basic physiognomy and target them for liquidation.

SOMEBODY is auditioning for the role of Professor Higgins in that pic

the queen has no face

Queen Without a Face

A few eps into the new season & so far so good!
Corgis is first ep THERE WILL BE CORGIS

New Philip is the dude from The Terror & Rome, right? Eeerily spot on with his voice.

Colman great obv. HBC’s margaret i havent quite adjusted to, still feels like HBC in nice dresses so far.

Aberfan ep incredibly heartbreaking - I had never heard of it til today.

I've never seen The Crown so I don't know if this is just a sour whinge...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/17/the-crown-tv-brexit-britain

I have seen the show and that seems fair enough

Although citing Colman in the The Favourite as an example of this kind of thing is pretty stupid

it lost me at G Oldman's Churchill performance as "worthy of praise". I can't think of a more cringeworthy, self-indulgent performance that should have got much more derision than it did, and it wasn't like he was a consummate pro putting in a good shift in an extremely shite movie.

Honestly, I think lumping The Crown in with Downton Abbey as a misty-eyed portrayal of a great British past just shows that the writer has not watched The Crown.

Like, maybe it's my Irish perspective, but storylines like Margaret charming the Johnsons in order to get a massive bailout for Britain do not make Britain or the royal family look good. They make everyone look craven and corrupt.

it lost me at G Oldman's Churchill performance as "worthy of praise". I can't think of a more cringeworthy, self-indulgent performance that should have got much more derision than it did, and it wasn't like he was a consummate pro putting in a good shift in an extremely shite movie.

Playing Churchill is a green light for self-indulgent hamming for any actor tbf.

The Crown does a good job of mirroring the viewers prejudices. It can be pro or anti monarchy depending on what you look for in it. Take Phillips speech in ep2 about the impossibility of equality. You can hear Daily Mail readers nodding along while the rest of us are gratified that the sociopathy is laid bare. The cameras point of view in this is strikingly neutral.

Playing Churchill is a green light for self-indulgent hamming for any actor tbf.

Yeah by all accounts Churchill himself spent most of his life "playing Churchill." And he was a consummate ham in the role.

(Insert corny and trite ruminations on "aren't we all just playing the part of ourselves on this great stage of life" etc.)

yes -- and i think it's a bit deeper even than this, as well, bcz the ones who say "let's party and fuck" (who are totally the ones who make sense, even more in the 60s than the 50s, are also the ones where it's obvious that they're doing nothing to justify the colossal privilege: elizabeth's determination is a double one, to prove she can be a satisfactory monarch even though she's a young girl with a very odd and inadequate education (except in the constitution), one that can match up to her dad, and victoria and the other semi-mythical elizabeth, but also to justify the privilege by an iron committment to a selfless version of the duty she owes and the role she must commit to (the dowdiness is an expression of this, like the other elizabeth's quasi-holy virginity)

^^^which is a bonkers insupportable topsyturvy view, but without it, there's just nothing left to ground the wealth and the palaces, etc, as any kind of equitable settlement -- and that's where elizabeth is coming from

re the constitution: she refers to bagehot* when he comes into conversation as "badgett", but her teacher -- a professor with a northern accent, who drinks -- calls him "batshit"... which is not IMO an accident

*(walter bagehot, the 19th centry theorist of the constitution and apologist for the victorian monarchy)

― mark s, Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:49 PM (three years ago) bookmarkflaglink

^^^mark s ("otm itt" ― Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl)) correctly calling eiir's underbusing of andrew 3 yrs later imo

that guardian article is pretty lame. spretending to be some kind of deep dive into the Crown when it’s mosly generalised waffling and “down with that sort of thing” concern-trolling about...aristocracy period dramas as a whole?

plus we’re pingponging from darkest hour to the favourite to the crown to downton AND to dunkirk?

pick a lane, jesus

Finished S3

Final episode v moving, I do love the way they have written the sisterly aspects of the Queen & Margaret

It's going to be very strange for people when Charles Dance gets blown up at the start of next season and they have no idea why because Northern Ireland has not been mentioned once so far.

maybe they'll introduce some heart of gold, but initially uncompromising Irish nationalist character (like the Welsh nationalist tutor to Charles) who learns to respect these parasitic nazis for what is inside them, rather than for what an absolute horror show they actually are. To make it less awkward when you see Dance/Mountbatten's earthly remains gloriously spraying all over the shop!

Or does that actually make it more awkward? I've not really thought this post through tbh!

yeah there’s def some holes that will need filling in before Dicky’s curtain call.

It must be such a hard show to write, as far as balancing actual history & fictional personal lives & how much history to give & when to deploy what etc.
i heard instead on 1 researcher they have a team of like 4 or 5. Plus the editing process apparently is very bloodthirtsy. Lots on the cutting room floor.

oh and idk if anyone cares but Princess Margaret was on an ep of Desert Island Discs back in the mid 80’s

https://youtu.be/Bi9FtwbU7m0

(i havent listened yet tho)

I hope they have someone tell the popular joke of the time, "Q: How do we know Mountbatten had dandruff? A: They found his Head & Shoulders washed up on the shore".

To be fair to them, I am learning loads about twentieth-century British history from the snippets presented in The Crine. I guess they only present the parts of history that affect the royals directly, which The Troubles probably did not until Mountbatten was killed.

No Royal Family, no Troubles. Discuss.

Cromwell might have something to say about this^

take away that bauble

Find it weird that every other US prez has had a spin on this series, but no one did Nixon. They even had the chance to do it with the hidden-away doco!

The whole Princess Alice story was fascinating to me, I knew nothing about her.

The Princess Margaret episode Desert Island Discs is recapped amusingly in Craig Brown's sort of biography Ma'am Darling. It was a bit of a PR disaster at the time iirc

The book itself is very good and an excellent insight into what a selfish monster she was