im not at all surprised its popular, its built on the gulf between rap smashes & pop smashes:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UE_-obgiWm0
and the fact that a massive portion of the population has no idea what this song is, and another smaller portion (though still huge... 123 million views huge) treated it as one of the most important songs of the last 5 years
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:08 (six years ago) link
not putting myself through reading the shitty opinions on this thread, this song is great
― a Rambo in curved air (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:15 (six years ago) link
back in march 2016 a basically-unknown female rapper from Texas named Asian Doll flipped her own freestyle version of that song & it went viral among hip hop / soundcloud / youtube teens, setting off a bunch of female rap imitators & launching her mainly underground career.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU2-XKlKoEw
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:17 (six years ago) link
im not saying this to delegitimize cardi b or this song or whatever, ppl can like it all they want, just think this context puts the hyperbole in perspective ... ppl can of course love pop songs by charismatic stars which lift from less well known auteurs (sometimes i do in spite of this) to me its hard to take it out of the dispiriting sense of nyc trend hopping & claiming the crown for it
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 10:22 (six years ago) link
based on a comprehensive listen to the EOY traxnoms, ppl should be listening to rico nasty over cardi b
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 11:21 (six years ago) link
I prefer her bit in "Motor Sport"
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 12:20 (six years ago) link
A little catchy, and I like her slow “cuttaaaaa...niggaaaaaaa...” delivery. It’s okay.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:15 (six years ago) link
I see it’s one of those “the title has fuckall to do with the song” kinda songs.
― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:16 (six years ago) link
she's def got personality especially compared to 21 Savage who is a black hole of charisma
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:21 (six years ago) link
I voted "great" because I liked it the first time I heard it and I haven't gotten tired of it yet. I actually like it better than "No Flockin," but I also like that she named it in tribute (and also made a ton of money for Kodak Black). I like her new one too.
Fwiw in re its popularity my wife, at best a casual hip-hop fan, loves it. Maybe Cardi's voice and persona help put across trap fundamentals to people they would otherwise bounce off -- which means trap fundamentalists roll their eyes, along with people who don't like trap at all.
the first solo female rapper #1 since 1998 when lauryn hill did it
This factoid surprised me mainly because I would've figured Missy had a couple. But "Work It" only got to #2. Robbed.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:25 (six years ago) link
Kinda reminds me of the Cash Me Outside girl. Does she rap yet? Is she part of this discourse?
Answering own question:
labels are even more into signing people with already existing celebrity these days even if it’s more “notoriety” than anything else. the whole “let the police reports act as the one sheets” wave, bhad bhabie, etc. i know i know pia zadora put out albums too but there’s something much more craven about this edition of it ― maura
― maura
lol
― how's life, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:29 (six years ago) link
Eh, I think that kind of reading is selling her short. Cardi may or may not have staying power, but she's gotten where she is on her own chutzpah.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 14:31 (six years ago) link
Good song, with several memorable lines, and it's awesome to see the videos of crowds shouting the words, but I still feel like the year-end dominance is more a reaction to her inspiring-as-hell overarching arc, not so much to the actual song.
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link
I think it's fair to wonder if Bodak would've topped year-end lists if the song didn't reach #1 on the charts (unseating Taylor Swift, no less)
at the very least this is a fun song and she's an engaging personality and has a good way of rapping imo and if i started a list of "what's wrong w. popular music and/or hip hop in 2017" she'd be about 10,000th on the list
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 16:25 (six years ago) link
I think the reason it’s twken off with fans of female rappers is obvious: there aren’t too many female rappers actively making good songs engaged with the culture who’ve been invested in to the extent that is true of male rappers
I can complain all day (and do) that Post Malone (worse than cardi) is topping the charts instead of artists i think are better and more original creative etc but to some extent you have to think, this is what America wants
W cardi I feel like the disparity between female rappers being taken seriously and the one who gets the biggest platform for crossover artists is almost certainly not accidental but by design... and that her rarity (to people who don’t pay attention to the genre closely ie most people) means she ends up on the receiving end of the audience’s enthusiasm bc there’s no one else there
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link
(But of course there are artists there; people just don’t know about them)
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:43 (six years ago) link
This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)oh, THAT Peter gunz
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link
It's funny how some people get annoyed by reading things like that referring to people they don't know... I'm always intrigued and just use google..
― brimstead, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 17:55 (six years ago) link
This thing went viral, where she tells off Peter gunz (yes that Peter gunz)
haha amazing...what ever happened to Cory Gunz? i suppose his closest brush with fame was when Shaq did his "Kobe, tell me how my ass taste" freestyle at one of his shows
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
btw was not familiar w/Asian Doll and she's probably a "better" rapper in ways than Cardi but at the same time let's not pretend there's not an energy and catchiness to "Bodak Yellow" that that No Flocking freestyle does not have...I mean there's a lot of good freestyles on the internet I could go find 10 as good as that right now
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
I wasn't annoyed
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:10 (six years ago) link
Since it’s only truly big in the US (and UK I think?) I’m assuming it’s driven by cult of personality and her media presence over there rather than by the actual quality of the song.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link
bodak yellow is one of those sassy cartoons starring an anthropomorphic animal i haven't gotten around to seeing yet
― bob lefse (rushomancy), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
I thought "(yes that Peter gunz)" was amusing. Like "oh, not some other Peter Gunz that you might not have heard of! This is definitely your father's Peter gunz, and make SURE you don't initialise his surname!"
― shackling the masses with plastic-wrapped snack picks (sic), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:16 (six years ago) link
Voted "good song"
― kolakube (Ross), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:15 PM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
if this was all it took why hasn't it happened for a dozen other washed up or never were rappers on Love & Hip Hop?
I mean, like it's not exactly my bag but when I finally looked up Bodak Yellow after hearing about it you could just hear that it was a hit
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:23 (six years ago) link
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:10 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I guess but i think the success & months of forced sing a long bs has made ppl more reverting to cardi’s version than they otherwise would be
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link
*reverent
the cash me outside girl does in fact now rap
Danielle Bregoli Peskowitz (born March 26, 2003), also known by her stage name Bhad Bhabie (pronounced "bad baby"), is an American rapper and social media personality.
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
The most important rappers with the best songs are cardi b, bhad bhabie, and post malone
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
corey gunz is on the new lil wayne tape (dedication 6)
― ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
xp nobody says that
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link
I'll say this: Kesha's "Praying" is more inexplicably overrated.
― iCloudius (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:00 (six years ago) link
ok no
although it's certainly not the best track on rainbow
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:02 (six years ago) link
cosign
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link
anyway i'm sure if you like this it'll merely strengthen your convictions but this is boring af and completely bereft of any musical or lyrical interest for me and if it wins it'll follow in a delightful lineage of nonsense that the illexinati (rip) pushed to the eoy #1 (212, wut etc)
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
you a worker
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link
lol ... imago ... otm?? *looks at hands, they're covered in blood*
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
― porg and bess (voodoo chili), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:59 PM (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
sure but plenty of ppl who wouldn't give bhad bhabie the time of day dont seem to realize its essentially the same formula but w lil pump in place of kodak black
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:30 (six years ago) link
this is not the last time u and i will be in agreement this poll cycle
*mysteriously vanishes in puff of smoke*
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
Song of the year. Y’all tripping.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:10 (six years ago) link
lol @ "bhad bhabie"
― crüt, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:15 (six years ago) link
how is bhabie formed?
― Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:30 (six years ago) link
If this is the song of the year then this was truly a sad year.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:31 (six years ago) link
― Cardi Acs (imago), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 2:17 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark
!! BOOMING POST !!
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:32 (six years ago) link
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:24 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
More to the point, Asian Doll did this on her own whereas cardi was professionally a&r’d & bankrolled.. which is to say, yes it’s a maximally “enjoyable” version of the formula
― Listen to my homeboy Fantano (D-40), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
in Britain and wondering why Cardi B has crossed over yet K Michelle hasn't despite very similar angles (stripper turned celebrity via reality TV and undeniable charisma)?
― boxedjoy, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 21:03 (six years ago) link
FYI I sing along to Bodak Yellow without Anyone forming me. I also think all these theories about outward forces conspiring to make people like it sound... strained.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 26 December 2017 21:10 (six years ago) link
voted great song. the drawl (the *many* drawled words), the measured tempo, the threat of violence and easy authority. wtf, this is great. bit pissed but come on, what's not to like. It's like someone walking with cockeyed grace.
― Fizzles, Tuesday, 26 December 2017 21:43 (six years ago) link
still tru, btw:
Get Up 10 is fire― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown)
― alpine static, Friday, 2 June 2023 17:40 (eleven months ago) link
just reiterating that her verse on this is really good, even better than "tomorrow 2" imo
― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Friday, 2 June 2023 18:07 (eleven months ago) link