CBD Oils

I’m still trying to get on the NYC MM program for my Crohn’s, going to try some cbd-intensive strains. I’m not a smoker at all. Neighbor hosted a trial run for me (a mostly-cbd strain, using a vape thingy). Was not stoned at all. Just felt distinctly chilled out with no feeling of sedation.

On the nyc mm program I guess I’ll be getting stuff in an oil or vaping cartridge form?

I had an appointment scheduled with a gastroenterologist who participates in the program last week but he had a family emergency and now I’m waiting to reschedule.

Whats the difference between tablets, sprays, vapes, smoking?

IIRC, CBD is not very bioavailable orally compared to smoking or vaping. The studies that have gotten good results were 150mg+ daily of CBD, which is probably not feasible for most people financially. The best results also seemed to come from CBD combined with low amounts of THC (like 20:1), which isn't a go for people without recreational access or good medical programs.

Hmmm, so theres the catch, I knew it!

What do you think about sublingual? reading conflicting stuff about this method

I've only done sublingual THC and even a few drops of high-proof alcohol is unpleasant enough that I didn't go back for seconds.

I’ve not read most of this thread but regarding what’s the difference in vaping:

Vapourizers control the temperature at which weed burns. Cannabis has far more sub-parts to it than simply “CBD” and “THC”

By that i mean there are different components of CBD, THC and terpenoids that burn and/or “activate” at various temperatures. Each component affects you differently

Extraction of them into liquid form i will guess depends on the quality and balance of the isolate, like someone else mentioned above

The cheap vape pens have poor temperature control, so you can end up burning your weed or not getting a high enough stable temperature

If it’s too high, you start burning the carcinogenic component of the weed (mimicking rolling a joint and smoking it). If it’s too low you might not even start burning any THC

Personally, i have a Crafty and it gives me stable and accurate temperature control and i have the ability to change the temperature depending on what type of high i want

Obviously this isn’t even getting into the quality of the weed

My friend grows his own stuff and it’s organic. He has been to the Netherlands and other parts of the world to try out their bud. He knows his stuff and has great talent for growing it. His stuff is the best i have ever tried because he grows them with such care, low pesticides and searched a lot for imo great seedlings

Brass tacks: does CBS get you high?

No but NBC does

Lol, my phone has thoughts of its own

CBD doesn't get you high exactly, but there's something in really large doses. I did a couple of pure CBD dabs and it felt sort of like taking a Xanax.

^ yeah. CbD is not psycho active so it won't get you high. It's also comparable to GABA, creates a low level buzz feeling. Definitely takes the edge off

Extraction of CBD has gotten good at diminishing the amt of THC that seeps in, the cannabinoid that gets you high

But ya it also depends on what you mean by “high”? CBD relaxes yr body which is why liquid form will give you an total body analgesic effect

My life has been transformed for the better by taking oil which has a ratio of THC and CBD (not sure what the ratio is exactly.) The high is very good indeed, but the CBD helps with physical pain, digestion, and chronic fatigue. I can only recommend it evangellically.

Which one do you take, glumdalclitch, where from?

I take it sublingually. Difficult to expand upon more as I'm in the UK, but I'm pretty sure ilx webmail works.

sent:)

I got i nterested in concentrates becuase of an article in my local https://www.thestranger.com/weed/2017/11/08/25572732/the-worlds-strongest-pot-product-is-for-sale-in-seattle-and-it-looks-almost-like-crystal-meth and have tried pen/liquid cartridge not knowing wtf im doing so the bits of associated knowledge itt is helpful thx

fwiw, i got my cannabis card over a year ago. I've been vaping medical CBD for pain relief as needed and found it fairly helpful. no noticeable effect on me other than the analgesic effect. I recommend highly!

jon, i'm glad to hear you're working toward getting a card; i'm inclined to think this can only be a boon for ya.

I know! I wish it wasn’t the holidays so I could pester that md for a reschedule

Some just arrived!

I have just taken some

ça plane?

Not really feeling much benefit yet!

can you buy this online w/o a prescription?
also has anyone used this for inflammation? (seen this mentioned online)

I just bought some online wo prescription from a place called the alchemists kitchen. I’m assuming it will fix everything.

https://www.thealchemistskitchen.com/products/cbd

https://www.thealchemistskitchen.com/pages/cbd-faq

oh cool not that much
how many drops are you supposed to take?

anxiety is pounding away, it didnt do anything at all!

I’ve noticed a few places use CBD as a catch-all term to mean any cannabinoid, probably because they don’t know exactly how much and what exact parts of the plant are extracted

It’s always good to inquire but even then when I use some of the gels on my grandfather, it has little effect on him

I have another source of this particular gel and it looks almost identical, with the same wording, but this one has way more effect on him. Kinda buyer beware unfortunately

In terms of the drops, it depends how long you’ve been doing it, body size and how you consume it

Obviously, IANAD, but if you haven’t consumed any in any form for years or you never have, and you are drinking it, 1-2 drops in some juice or something should do the trick. Probably twice a day depending on how bad your symptoms are

You can also vape it if you find a vapourizer that lets you vape liquids, but I imagine the dosage for this is different

https://www.lovecbd.org/product/300mg-dutch-cbd-oil-spray/

this is the one i did, and literally nothing. anxiety strong.

maybe it takes time to build up if you dont have the receptors?

again, ianad, and this is kind of unsafe territory but you can try upping the dosage a tiny tiny bit (if you have a larger body mass low doses might not affect you much), but there is no build up necessary i wanna say?

i would try a different brand or even source if upping the amt/spray count doesnt help

good luck and be safe

CbD tolerance is definitely a thing. Some people feel nothing the first couple times they take a 20mg pill. What is the dose you're taking cherry?

cannabidiol stays in the body 2-5 days

it looks like cherry is using a spray

cherry if you dont mind saying how long were you taking the recommended dose?

Deodorant would be a good delivery vehicle

well its only second day of doing it so far!

i did 0.33, 0.33, 0.5 and 0.5ml (2.4mg, 2.4mg, 3.6mg, 3.6mg)

The studies that had a benefit for anxiety were using at least 10X that amount. I know that personally it takes about 40mg of CBD to have any effect orally.

For sources, ironically the CBD subreddit has the best list of suppliers with recent quality tests.

I'll check that out thanka. contradictory information make this confusing - recommended dose so low!

Yeah I stand by what I said about not exceeding 60 mg to start but cherry those amounts are way too low!!

I think suppliers recommend such small doses to make the product look more affordable.

Ime, non-medical stuff is of limited use because of low potency
Can you get legal? Or know someone who isn't?

sorry the mrs are correct, the mgs were wrong

4.8mg, 4.8mg, 7.2mg, 7.2mg in one day. still quite low by looks of it. I will try larger doses tomorrow, thats a lot of spraying though...many times during day, or fewer times with more spray?

Fewer times, more spray, IMO. You could try however many sprays get you to 20mg at once for a starter?

To put the amounts in perspective, THC is way more potent mg for mg and 5mg THC doses are sold as almost unnoticeable microdoses in legal states here.

if this doesn't work, maybe try the pills? higher doses to boot

I tried doing 20mg at once and there was some reduction in anxiety, fairly muted but it was there - though of course anxiety is variable!

the thing I don't understand about sublingual is, you hold it there for 3 minutes or whatever because it goes in faster, then you swallow it? but that mean the stuff thats still in your mouth hasn't gone in the sublingual way?

I just hold it as long as possible while working

The 3 minutes sounds like a general guide

I assume some people can’t go a long time without the need to swallow

Administering liquids under the tongue ensures they enter the bloodstream faster without the so called first pass effect of breaking down/potentially losing its potency in the gastrointestinal tract, stomach, then liver

If you’re swallowing minuscule amounts of it, I don’t think it’s a big deal, especially since you are now taking way more than the product suggests

so I massively increased the dose, and was doing 20mg at once the last few days, 6 or 7 times a day and....its nearly all gone. It did kind of work a bit. I think maybe a try the vape

I've been messing around with CBD for the last few weeks and have had best results from vaping high CBD low THC bud (surprisingly easy to get hold of in UK?!) It's like my body gets stoned but my brain doesn't? Really reduces pain in muscles and lessens body stress/anxiety. Not a wonder cure but any reduction in symptoms is welcome tbh.

been using cbd oil for a few weeks, felt quite good initially but noticed i've been getting upset stomach a lot more. i have ibs but usually related to eating certain things. i wondered is it possible i'm swallowing it more than i notice when taking it sublingually. i find it quite hard to know how much is being administered and now i think about it, whether i'm properly administering it sublingually. i mean without getting ridiculous should i be telling myself to say "ah" like a doctor would when you're a kid.

alternatively i guess i could start vaping it instead? dunno where to start with that tho.

i have a lot of chronic weakness and muscle pain and the first week it seemed to help a lot with that, i was exercising more and sleeping better, but the upset stomach just exacerbates those issues so it's become harder to tell how effective it's been.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/05/14/magazine/cbd-cannabis-cure.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

I had the bartender put a few drops in my beer last week and mix it up. Horrible idea, turned it into soap and caused it to overflow.

im a bit dubious about the benefits of cbd so i like to read things like that that are positive but measured

i've had good results

Bump

I am interested in trying CBD on as as-needed basis to manage/alleviate anxiety. Interested if anyone else has tried it and your results.

could be psychosomatic, but a small amount of cbd and I’m less self-conscious when being social. a middle amount and I’m falling asleep on the couch

and it’s probably even more unlikely, but after having some cbd following a week where I had thc, feel like some residual good vibes popped up

I have experienced my Grandfather struggle with anxiety for the last half year or so. Two different sets of drugs didn't sort him out, mainly I think because the side effects absolutely knocked him side-wards (he's 86).

Anyway after a couple of friends extolled the benefits I bought a 10ml 250g (weakest stuff) CBD Ultra bottle for him, three drops under the tongue in the morning and he's like a different person this week. Could be a placebo but I hope this holds up.

i hope the positive effects continued.

my gf's cousin has a cbd business and is always giving us oils. i've been taking it daily since about christmas - so a month - and it does the square root of fuck all for my anxiety and chronic pain

Almost every business in my neighborhood added “and CBD oil!” to their sign over the last 12 months, including a clam bar

My wife takes it for her lower back pain...she says it works wonders

the state cops busted someone running a business called "Your CBD Store" with storefronts in three local suburbs here. it's insanely vague whether it's actually illegal and a bunch of my peers have CBD products at home

at this point it'd be worth explicitly, at the least, making non-THC products like CBD available because mail order businesses are making bank

my conservative, very much not pot smoking seventy-five year old parents bought some "pet CBD" for their dog as she was dying of dog cancer a few months ago. it was their vet's suggestion apparently, and apparently pet CBD is no different from human CBD except that it's sold in a much less concentrated dose. anyway they said it really seemed like she was a lot more tranquil and it certainly helped her appetite in her last few weeks.

anyway, good for her and good for them and everything (and RIP Maggie the Goldendoodle, a gentle soul who is missed), but the whole experience made me curious enough to buy 30 10mg capsules for myself and I tell ya what, that wack ass shit didn't do a dang thing for this non-cancerous human except give me lavender oil scented burps and make me regret blowing $40 on it.

lavender oil?

my continuing report is that I feel more mellow, sleep better, and am in higher spirits after CBD ingestion

I have an anxiety-ridden friend who somewhat recently developed severe insomnia (staying up for four days straight some times), and she now swears by cbd-infused melatonin capsules.

yeah the stuff the guy at the dispensary sold me was cut with lavender oil and had ridiculous ganesh-themed packaging designed to dupe scented candle/yoga enthusiasts (and me) into buying it. "achieve zen" brand CBD oil or something like that. I did sort of feel alrighter than usual for a few hours after I exceeded the recommended dosage and ate four of the lavender snake oil pills at once, but cmon $40? at that price how can anybody who needs to make that a habit make that a habit?

The c b d seltzers give me a headache

I swear by plain ol' melatonin for sleep issues, no CBD needed.

I recently read a book ("Suggestible You") about the placebo effect, which not only illustrates how some are more susceptible to it than others (perhaps a genetic trait), but how the problems the placebo effect is most effective in countering are often pretty much exactly the bulk of what CBD is typically purported to do. Pain, depression, nausea, insomnia, and anxiety, among them. (It's apparently also the cannabinoid receptors in our brains that enable to placebo effect.)

The way I see it is, until there's a study that says it's harmful, there's really no harm in trying, especially if you get results.

my conservative, very much not pot smoking seventy-five year old parents bought some "pet CBD" for their dog as she was dying of dog cancer a few months ago. it was their vet's suggestion apparently, and apparently pet CBD is no different from human CBD except that it's sold in a much less concentrated dose. anyway they said it really seemed like she was a lot more tranquil and it certainly helped her appetite in her last few weeks.

anyway, good for her and good for them and everything (and RIP Maggie the Goldendoodle, a gentle soul who is missed), but the whole experience made me curious enough to buy 30 10mg capsules for myself and I tell ya what, that wack ass shit didn't do a dang thing for this non-cancerous human except give me lavender oil scented burps and make me regret blowing $40 on it.

― del griffith, Saturday, January 25, 2020 12:51 AM (twenty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i enjoyed this post. personally never spending money on a cbd product that doesn't have the thc in it too.

Fwiw I could have sworn I read that THC boasts all the effects of CBD, too. Btw, per that same book, apparently Prozac does not beat the placebos in trials. That's another human drug we give to pets for their benefit. I wonder if there is an element of correlation vs. causation, like the way people who talk or sing to their plants reportedly get better results than those who don't.

My corner market has some CBT cigarettes next to the register and, as a recently quit smoker of 25 years, I’m very tempted to have something for my weak moments that won’t get me completely baked.

many xps to Jim - the oral dosage required for any effect on anxiety is immense (much higher than anything people buy at local shops/Family Video/etc.), it seems to be more reasonable with vaping

On a lark I bought some high-CBD legal/smokeable hemp, it was the worst thing I've ever smoked including unfiltered Camels.

I vaped a balloon of 20% CBD/1% THC from Colorado in one of those $400 Volcano things and it was the most relaxed I've ever felt without being noticeably high.

many xps to Jim - the oral dosage required for any effect on anxiety is immense (much higher than anything people buy at local shops/Family Video/etc.), it seems to be more reasonable with vaping

On a lark I bought some high-CBD legal/smokeable hemp, it was the worst thing I've ever smoked including unfiltered Camels.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, January 24, 2020 6:52 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

What doses are we talking? I'm doing 50mg a day

~3X or more - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3763649/

my experience these days is that CBD don't do it but THC does BUT I'm gonna have to function high if I want the pain to go away, so i just cope and load up at bedtime when no one cares.

Had a “dram” brand 25 mg lemongrass (heh) soda this afternoon. Mellow slow

i realise this is probably a stupid question, however, i have been innundated with ads re CBD drinks over the last week.
in particular, TRIP.
my question : i love wine and a lot of the PR has been about how this stuff is a good booze replacement.
anyone here given this TRIP stuff a go and has it helped reduce booze excess ?

note : i have never been a smoker, so have little knowledge re CBD/THC etc.
and as a UK'r, the variants here have no THC.

it's weed without the fun ime but it does seem to relax my muscles and has helped me sleep if I have it instead of a beer so it's worth a try

it's overpriced and I resent the name given the absence of psychedelia but it does seem to calm me down a bit idk how much placebo is involved

I was in france and germany recently and found it weird how a lot of places are now selling "CBD flowers" for smoking/vaping which look identical to the real thing and are similarly priced... I regret not trying some but I suspected I'd be disappointed

my youngest, 19, asked me today if the UK will ever legalise weed/edibles/THC based products.
i think attitudes may have mellowed in recent times, but it's not going to happen here for quite a while yet.
suspect it needs another generation to die off basically.

however, as a booze replacement, i am kind of tempted to try this CBD overpriced alternative, get let down, and open a bottle of wine.

It’s probably overselling itself with a name like that

There’s a brand around here called “recess” which is not apropo

*which is more

https://media.newyorker.com/cartoons/647a98bb48c55341d9f1283f/master/w_1280%2Cc_limit/230612_a22720.jpg

weirdly enough the high end CBD coffee trend ($9 CBD latte anyone?) seems to have died off, at least where I frequent n NY