The Coddling Of The American Mind (Trigger Warning Article In The Atlantic...)

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'it has always been wrong to bet against america'

i thought this guy was supposed to be a fucking scientist

j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:04 (six years ago) link

what a shitty article

the late great, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link

oh now he's a professor of 'ethical leadership' in a business school

j., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 22:15 (six years ago) link

I like the physics metaphors. That’s the only way I’m gonna communicate on ilx from now on.

treeship 2, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 23:57 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

http://alicedreger.com/Wellesley

All in all, I think the engagement at the Wellesley protest went well, even if it was an ironic lesson in the social construction of identity. A number of students came up to me to say they had really had their minds opened by realizing what they’re told about someone might not at all be true. A few told me they were planning to push back against the problem of what amounts to falsehood-based activism.

So, I felt like I did a pretty good job for the students and faculty there. But it was impossible not to leave with a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now.

j., Monday, 19 February 2018 20:33 (six years ago) link

a renewed sense of just how fucked up campuses are right now

It seems to me that the people who are creating fake Facebook and Twitter accounts impersonating her, and the Facebook and Twitter corporations who allow impersonations to persist, are the truly fucked-up people and entities. Students being taken in by such impersonations may be naïve or gullible, but that is not the same as fucked up.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 19 February 2018 20:46 (six years ago) link

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/no-wonder-wayne-lapierre-is-on-edge/2018/02/23/3aedcab0-18af-11e8-b681-2d4d462a1921_story.html?utm_term=.be1d376677ba

He saw a “tidal wave” of “European-style socialists bearing down upon us,” creating a “captive society,” eliminating “resistance,” making a “list” in a cloud database of those who spank their children, expunging the “fundamental concept of moral behavior,” controlling speech through “safe zones.”

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LaPierre singled out three billionaire capitalists to blame for the socialist revolution: George Soros, Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But he saw conspirators everywhere in the government — Trump’s government: the FBI (with its “corruption” and “rogue leadership”) the Justice Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the intelligence agencies. He also blamed the Democrats, media, Hollywood, universities, classrooms, Black Lives Matter, elites and Keith Ellison.

Even the CPAC audience seemed to be stunned by this unhinged time-traveler from the Cold War. “You know, I hear a lot of quiet in this room, and I sense your anxiety,” he said. “And you should be anxious, and you should be frightened.”

j., Friday, 23 February 2018 19:37 (six years ago) link

A certain ex-ilxor:

https://splinternews.com/if-you-truly-care-about-speech-you-will-invite-me-to-y-1823614969

If You Truly Care About Speech, You Will Invite Me to Your Office to Personally Call You a Dipshit

Civil society requires the toleration of the expression of opposing viewpoints, no matter how personally discomforting you may find them. Therefore, it would be profoundly hypocritical for the editorial staff of the New York Times opinion section not to immediately invite me to come to their offices to call them all morons and trolls.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:37 (six years ago) link

tick vg

nyt op-ed seems especially rudderless/clueless these days even for them

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:41 (six years ago) link

Pareene was on ILX?

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

One of Pareene's best. It even got Lawyers Guns & Money linkage.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link

he was here for quite awhile!

xpost

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 8 March 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link

My local alt-weekly’s resident Bari Weiss fan wrote a great article today detailing the history of Satanic child abuse hysteria and then comparing it to the current calls for a boycott of a local business over an allegedly racially-motivated firing.

JoeStork, Friday, 9 March 2018 00:36 (six years ago) link

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:12 (six years ago) link

David French has some words for y'all sliming Bari Weiss!

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 March 2018 03:14 (six years ago) link

grownups with power really are the worst

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 9 March 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link

was the response incorrect do u just not agree with his..........tone......................................

things you looked shockingly old when you wore (darraghmac), Friday, 9 March 2018 09:09 (six years ago) link

Did Sommers actually have to cut her speech short as a result of the heckling? That seems like a key point.

Because I do think that a university's obligation to allow student groups to invite speakers of varying persuasions on various topics, and to allow these speakers to speak without being shut down by hecklers, is greater than an editorial board's (or e.g. the university administration's) obligation to allow someone to insult them privately in their office. Neither is really a free speech issue in the legal sense but I do think there is an academic freedom issue here. Perhaps an argument could be made in cases where e.g. a speaker might single out and harass individual students but I definitely don't think that Christina Hoff Sommers is an example of this.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:14 (six years ago) link

the academic freedom to give a platform to dumb-as-a-rock speakers must be upheld

War, Famine, Pestilence, Death, Umami (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:19 (six years ago) link

Um, yes, that is my position (although I don't agree that Sommers is dumb as a rock, even when I disagree with her).

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 13:26 (six years ago) link

I'm glad that's your position but it's important that you know that it's not the position of this particular vein of "free speech activists," whose position is that it's a big problem for free speech if hollering students delay a speech by five minutes, but nbd when speakers with political beliefs that might offend state legislators are barred by the administration from appearing on campus in the first place, or are fired by universities when already employed there.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 9 March 2018 16:22 (six years ago) link

Well, the latter sort concerns me more and my posts to these threads probably show as much. That doesn't mean that one can't be concerned about both things. One can also both be frustrated by the hypocrisy of selective 'free speech activists' and disagree with the parallel that Pareene seems to be implying.

No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Friday, 9 March 2018 18:08 (six years ago) link

The local Muslim Students’ Association wanted to invite a speaker to ASU.
*The university sent a contract stipulating that any speaker that comes cannot be involved in the BDS movement.
*This is a gross violation of free speech
*Therefore, we are suing.https://t.co/wWprq2lGOD pic.twitter.com/tzdZ8krRhc

— Imraan Siddiqi (@imraansiddiqi) March 2, 2018

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Friday, 9 March 2018 19:49 (six years ago) link

For this tweet I am being told I am a racist

j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 18:55 (six years ago) link

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

NBA YoungBoy named Rocky Raccoon (m bison), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:30 (six years ago) link

ah, this is the lady who thinks Hamilton makes it ok for members of the press to call people immigrants even if they were born in the country

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, 11 March 2018 19:42 (six years ago) link

isnt this the lady with an extensive twitter history of using slurs and shit?

No, that was Quinn Norton, who was (publicly) hired and sacked within a 24-hour timespan.

Simon H., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:12 (six years ago) link

Double lol: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/02/afflictions

Frederik B, Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:20 (six years ago) link

scroll to the bottom for Sully's weekly screed on lib intolerance

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:22 (six years ago) link

ross 'relentlessly careful and smooth' douthat

j., Sunday, 11 March 2018 20:40 (six years ago) link

god that's a lot of paragraphs of robert mueller fan fiction

while my dirk gently weeps (symsymsym), Sunday, 11 March 2018 23:34 (six years ago) link

andrew "daddy issues" sullivan

map, Monday, 12 March 2018 01:08 (six years ago) link

https://www.minnpost.com/education/2018/03/edina-young-conservatives-club-lawsuit-inspires-bill-legislature

“Let me be very clear, I think the emotion and the fear and the retaliation and the anger and the hurt that we have heard, regarding what has happened in one of our schools — and perhaps many other schools — is something we, as education leaders, need to take very seriously,” Nelson said, referring to Edina high schoolers who’d testified in support of her bill. “I do not believe it’s the job of a teacher to tell a student that his or her opinion — or their parents’ opinions — are wrong. But it is their job to make sure that we have a fair and academic balance when we talk about these controversial issues.”

that's the R talking, about presumably butthurt bad faith conservative highschoolers

j., Monday, 12 March 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

Edina, huh?

The town so white, Anglo-Saxon and Protestant that it’s school mascot is a fucking hornet.

kim jong deal (suzy), Monday, 12 March 2018 18:11 (six years ago) link

might be hope for the states yet

the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Tuesday, 13 March 2018 19:17 (six years ago) link

one month passes...
two months pass...

Bari Weiss just won a 0,000 prize for good writing https://t.co/Q3rCrMpwA8 pic.twitter.com/nWPQXSmQZM

— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) July 18, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 21:51 (five years ago) link

Remembering this classic from the @CillizzaCNN AMA pic.twitter.com/9XXCyAGIIU

— noah ☭ (@voidsrus) July 18, 2018

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 22:18 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Feeling very triggered by those findings tbrr.

Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Friday, 12 July 2019 19:30 (four years ago) link

The methods are the same as the 2018 paper, but with a pool of 451 participants who had experienced trauma. (A consent form required for ethical purposes did require that participants acknowledge that they would be reading emotional material, Jones told me, which is sort of a trigger warning all on its own but a required step of the process).

hmmm, seems like that might potentially stack the pool of people involved.

Good morning, how are you, I'm (Doctor Casino), Friday, 12 July 2019 19:35 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Sarah Silverman aka the cancelled:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/12/sarah-silverman-fired-from-film-blackface-photo

pomenitul, Monday, 12 August 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link


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