Things You Just Don't Care About

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We do spend more time thinking about them than they do about us (no matter who 'we' may be).

We probably think about them less than they think we do, though.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:25 (six years ago) link

It's not so much that I don't care (I have friends and family who live there, quite aside from anything else) but I do kinda resent/lament just how much of your shitty dumb politics we all apparently have to know about. Obv this is amplified by the internet but like constant updates on whether an election in Alabama would be won by a paedophile or a non-paedophile, it's pretty wearying - you'd legitimately wonder if we actually did have our own problems sometimes, the inordinate attention paid to this shit over here

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:28 (six years ago) link

But in an Americanized world, on an Americanized internet, they seep into our thoughts without us realizing it. It's hard to tune out.

xp

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:29 (six years ago) link

It's not so much that I don't care (I have friends and family who live there, quite aside from anything else) but I do kinda resent/lament just how much of your shitty dumb politics we all apparently have to know about. Obv this is amplified by the internet but like constant updates on whether an election in Alabama would be won by a paedophile or a non-paedophile, it's pretty wearying - you'd legitimately wonder if we actually did have our own problems sometimes, the inordinate attention paid to this shit over here

― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, December 20, 2017

Yeah, and it's doubly exacerbated when you live in Canada. So fucking aggravating.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:31 (six years ago) link

xp tbf, i think much of the inordinate attention is of the 'wow, look at these assholes' variety. it's hard not to look at a car wreck, even if it's across an ocean

mookieproof, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:33 (six years ago) link

i would hazard to guess that most people in the USA don't like needing to babysit the president either
i barely consider the current situation "american politics" -- it's a world class shitshow

in a more rational time, at least the president could be counted on to not throw a tantrum. now we are using the word tantrum regularly to describe POTUS behavior.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

Star Wars: The Last Jedi has forever ruined the series for me. that garbage story they gave Luke was shit. below might be v light spoilers (i don't reveal any specific that happens just the general treatment of the film):

i am going to stay away from dedicated Star Wars threads because i know this is by design at this point. i don't want to contribute to people spending any more time thinking about this series or "defending my opinion" against someone who doesn't like it. the story was uninteresting, the motivations unbelievable, all the characters were wasted, the new characters remained one dimensional and ill-defined, and the universe itself makes less and less sense as the cognitive dissonance of continuously achieving total victory being overturned immediately afterwards and the pointless of it all has crept in.

i admit i complained about Space Balls. in all reality it was a complaint of love and to see the alternative be a minimalist rehash of a famous OT scene combined with another famous OT scene and then conclude the sequence with a copy of maybe the most famous OT scene. it has been nauseating to read so many people talk about how they are changing things up when in reality this is the safest film because it is constantly hedging its bets. this is a kind of movie where our heroes get captured twice and escape each time in under 5 minutes. there are no stakes. it is a cartoon. it is a Disney show.

the sad thing is the first film set things up very well. JJ included so many tantalizing mysteries. it is obvious the new director did not want to follow up. he wanted to make a setpiece that is more like something out of Lady And The Tramp. we have the first black lead actor in a Star Wars series introduced as a stormtrooper and that has never been touched upon. we don't look into his past. we don't find out where he is from. we don't even know is real name. this is two movies in and we don't even know the name of one of your supposed main characters.

what happens in the next Star Wars, i just don't care about. after 36 years im done caring about these characters or what happens next in the series. make them bad. make them good. the rebels win the empire wins it doesn't matter, someone even states as much in this movie, right before it turns into an episode of Ducktales. if i want this level of content i can get it from Comic Con skits and phone/battery/Disney commercials, i can get it from Funny Or Die skits, etc. the old movies are unique and interesting and play an important role in film and cultural history. they will always be there. fuck off w this product.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:54 (six years ago) link

h8 it when serious adult cinema gets turned into cartoon

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

star wars

marcos, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 17:59 (six years ago) link

the release of a new star wars doesn't feel like the huge cultural event that every other star wars was, including the 2015 one. i didn't see any trailers, pretty much only saw star wars superfans talking about it after it came out. i haven't seen it, probably won't get the chance, and i've never enjoyed watching any of the star wars movies at home

h8 it when serious adult cinema gets turned into cartoon

oh come on

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:03 (six years ago) link

Man, don't remind me about that The Seven Seals animated series. I feel like they missed Bergman's point entirely (although tbf there was that incongruous talking walrus in the movie so I can see how they ultimately arrived at that premise).

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:06 (six years ago) link

We do spend more time thinking about them than they do about us (no matter who 'we' may be).
We probably think about them less than they think we do, though.

OTM except I'm sure they don't spend any time thinking about us.

Whiney Houston (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:14 (six years ago) link

Unless you're Swedish. In which case the alt-right can't get its mind off you.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link

the release of a new star wars doesn't feel like the huge cultural event that every other star wars was, including the 2015 one. i didn't see any trailers, pretty much only saw star wars superfans talking about it after it came out.

obv there was a lot of fuss surrounding The Phantom Menace in 1999, but did the the second and third prequels get much attention when they came out? I don't remember hearing much about them at all

soref, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

I know I should not do this but:

the sad thing is the first film set things up very well. JJ included so many tantalizing mysteries.

Come on, man. *Even if* I grant this -- which I don't, IDGAF who Rey's parents were or how Maz got Luke's lightsaber -- when has that dude ever followed up on "tantalizing mysteries?"

we have the first black lead actor in a Star Wars series introduced as a stormtrooper and that has never been touched upon. we don't look into his past. we don't find out where he is from.

Aren't you one of the same dudes complaining about origin story movies like the Han Solo flick?

we don't even know is real name. this is two movies in and we don't even know the name of one of your supposed main characters.

Again, WGAF? There's no on-screen or in-universe reason to disbelieve his statement in TFA, "That's the only name they ever gave me." Just like the Jedi, the First Order takes these kids in late infancy to train them. They don't have names, they have numbers, just like the Clone Troopers did.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link

"Where did Finn come from before he was taken as a baby by the First Order?" is literally one of the top three least interesting potential Star Wars plotlines I can imagine. It's beyond irrelevant -- it's comically stupid.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

i don't understand what is wrong with wanting a character that people have liked for 40 years to be written with consistency. this was the Batman V Superman of films. an angry teenager pretending to not care.

"duh it's always been a cartoon" is a misrepresentation. it has always been a pulp sci fi inspired by genre film. it was made by a film school guy who hung out with Coppola when he was making Apocalypse Now. now it is a fake cartoon of that.

the film has so many problems because this guy is a poor filmmaker. visually it is nice but you can learn that doing commercials. there are weird choices. why did we get introduced to a Stormtrooper and have it be a game-changing thing only to have none of that be part of this story?
Finn is a sidekick who is under-served and he is one of the main new characters. it is just not interesting as a pulp sci fi film. the ending in particular was un-satisfying thing to watch in a film full of visual spectacle. the main hero's final act and the set design was something i saw this year an episode of The Andy Griffith Show.

this is not my issue with the film. none of the main characters have family or even home planets. they are living action figures. they come through the film unscathed but with new accessories.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:22 (six years ago) link

Can you honestly say this is something you truly don't care about?

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

I don't care if people discuss a movie I haven't seen yet itt rather than in the thread specifically reserved for discussing said movie with other people who've already seen it. I really don't, at all. Please continue with my blessing.

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

Aren't you one of the same dudes complaining about origin story movies like the Han Solo flick?

what does that mean? Han Solo is an old character. i would rather them let go of the old characters and do something new. this is why i want to know about Finn. what is his story? where is he from? he had PTSD from being a storm trooper. isn't that supposed to be interesting? no, he's given a side story while the real hero combined Luke and Leia.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

Why are we having this discussion here?

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

every thread will become star wars thread. that's the internet law of hitler.

scott seward, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

lol sorry I have no horse in this race, this is a legitimate thing I don't care about

But starwars ~d i s c o u r s e~ is Extremely Bad and far less welcome than US politics obv

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:27 (six years ago) link

I maintain that there is absolutely nothing in Luke's characterization that is inconsistent with anything we've seen before and anyone who thinks so is not paying attention.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:28 (six years ago) link

Dudes, do we care about this topic or not?

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

obv there was a lot of fuss surrounding The Phantom Menace in 1999, but did the the second and third prequels get much attention when they came out? I don't remember hearing much about them at all

― soref, Wednesday, December 20, 2017 1:19 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

true, although i was a kid when the prequels came out & was very amped and very exposed but yes The Phantom Menace absolutely got wayyyyy more coverage than the others. maybe because everyone hated it ( i loved it). with these, it's like... really? do we need more star wars movies. i was so into them all as a kid, and by the time TFA came out i just didn't give a shit (saw it tho, was ok). i remember the excitement in 98/99 and the buildup, the mystery, the mythic status of the first 3 movies because there were only 3 and they came out many years ago.

xp woops lol no more star wars posts

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

this is why i want to know about Finn. what is his story? where is he from? he had PTSD from being a storm trooper.

1. He comes from the First Order, where he's been since he was a tiny little boy, being trained all his life to be a good trooper. There's a picture and everything in the movie. What else do you need to know? How could it possibly help the movie to know more, rather than satisfying whatever itch you apparently need scratched?

https://i.imgur.com/gPPBCxl.jpg

2. That portion of his character arc was completed in TFA. He was terrified of the First Order finding him and fully prepared to run away from Maz's castle with the two smugglers, then saw Rey being taken by Kylo Ren and realized there were things more important than his own safety and peace of mind.

God damn some ILXors are fucking bad at watching movies.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link

Please stop

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

prequels were stupid but harmless. this actively takes a series that ended on a message of non-violence (Luke throwing away his weapon is when he won, he would let the Emperor kill him rather than fight). the new series is like nah, that was bullshit. violence is cool. "The war will always go on." great message.

i mean i enjoyed watching it but it was dumb as fuck and it is annoying to see everyone dismiss that with "lol you aren't good at watching films"

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:36 (six years ago) link

Do you know what's annoying?

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

Can you absolute arseholes get the fuck out of a completely unrelated thread while discussing a newly released movie

You total dicks

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

lmao gtfo this thread yall

marcos, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

dmac otm

marcos, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

Hank solo dies

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

Are there Last Jedi spoilers happening here? I care about not having this movie spoiled.

jmm, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Yes, thanks darragh, my passagg approach was not connecting.

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

TBF, this confusion could've been circumvented if Rian Johnson hadn't insisted upon the title Star Wars Episode VIII: Things You Just Don't Care About.

Encyclopedia Beige and the Case of the Bland Sandwich (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

The way I look at it, regardless of topic, if you have to write 20 paragraphs about why you don't care about something, perhaps you are not really in touch with your true feelings

Moodles, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

Mods feel free 2 delete my posts, I said I shouldn't have done it and I shouldn't.

Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

I just want to give a shout out to all those posters who really don't care about something to the point you haven't even posted about it on here. Respect!

calzino, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:45 (six years ago) link

I'm kinda glad I didn't care for the couple of star war films I watched cause it means I don't have to pick a side in the NOT MY GHOSTBUSTERS -vs- omg Kelly Marie Tran stroked a kitten IM WEEPING wars of 17

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

I despise Star Wars with some considerable energy, so I can't really say I don't care. I've hated it since a child abuser forced me to watch all of them in one marathon sitting in Bradford in the 80's.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

adam: start a livejournal for all these feelings having & stop with the cropdusting. you’ve done this on 3 threads so far that I’ve counted. ENOUGH!!!
jfc

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 18:59 (six years ago) link

lol cropdusting
is that a thing people say? i thought it referred to walking while farting but this new usage makes sense too :)

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:04 (six years ago) link

^^^

(I assume vg is using the driveby fart definition p much)

sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link

i didnt intentionally mean it in the fart sense but it feels apropo in hindsight lol

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link

apoopoo

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link

u_u

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link

pu_pu

remember the lmao (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 19:21 (six years ago) link


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