right right, my flub
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 02:31 (six years ago) link
hey, an article about a thing i help with
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/12/20/16798026/rebuild-left-democratic-party-democratic-socialists-tenant-rights
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 14:58 (six years ago) link
Democrats, who hope to recapture the House and Senate in 2018, are trying to understand their unexpected success in Alabama so that they can replicate it next year. But it was painstaking, careful organizing by black organizations that seems to have made the greatest difference—and black activists are drawing their own lessons from their successes in Alabama, as they seek to empower their communities.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/sparking-an-electoral-revival-in-alabama/548504/?utm_source=atlfb
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 20 December 2017 15:36 (six years ago) link
it was painstaking, careful organizing by black organizations that seems to have made the greatest difference
so the take-away is to strengthen community organizing everywhere, which is always very hard work and is pretty much the take-away from every successful progressive movement in history.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:00 (six years ago) link
ORPHANS > CORPORATE JETS
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link
A brief thought on basic organizing...
As a matter of strategy, organizing requires opening a trusted channel of communication within the community being organized, so important news can be shared and activities can be coordinated. The internet, email, mobile phones, and social media provide glaringly obvious tools for creating such open channels.
However, as a matter of tactics, people respond far more strongly to voices they connect to faces, and most especially to trusted people whose character they know and understand. This is why churches have always proved such fertile ground for community organization. Electronic media are disembodied and faceless. It's their glaringly obvious weakness.
I suspect that social media are being overly relied upon by progressive organizations as a simple, cheap and fast solution to communication and the human connection piece of organizing is getting short shrift. The ease of electronic communication also leads to its abuse, by overloading it with junk messages and incessant fundraising appeals. This ends with it being swiftly tuned out. iow, it fails its purpose and proves to be an empty waste of effort.
All of which is just to say this is a big rake in the middle of the path waiting to be stepped on by newbies to organizing. The old-fashioned shoe leather and church basement organizing will never stop being the most effective and lasting methodology, even though it is the most time-consuming and difficult. Electronic media need to be an adjunct, not a primary tool.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:35 (six years ago) link
I think that's already the approach most left orgs are taking tbh
― Simon H., Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:42 (six years ago) link
I suspect that social media are being overly relied upon
lots of stuck up "liberals" out there and sadly, long gone, no more ACORN. o'keefe (a caricature, sure. . .) has cause more damage than dems know
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:53 (six years ago) link
ACORN was targeted because it was effective
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 20:57 (six years ago) link
Dems might not have lost 2010, 2014, and 2016 if ACORN had never been o'keefed. weird they haven't figured that out yet
― reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:20 (six years ago) link
if they are fighter jets though 2/3 of Dems are still happy to give Trump even more money than he asked for.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll631.xml
unashamed bipartisan support for the war economy damages their brand far more than a silly O'Keefe video
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:22 (six years ago) link
The war economy is unwarrantedly popular across much of the US population. It connects so directly to fear-based voting that it's a consistent vote winner.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 December 2017 21:29 (six years ago) link
Franken uses his final speech to lay out his core political values. In a country that believes in pulling yourself up by the bootstraps, he said, the federal government can give families the boots."That's why I'm a Democrat," he said. "That's why I'm a Democrat." pic.twitter.com/XAEn1tfB7B— Jennifer Brooks (@stribrooks) December 21, 2017
― j., Thursday, 21 December 2017 16:57 (six years ago) link
Bear in mind that the war economy is one of the only industries where we actually still make the shit here. tanks, submarines, destroyers and fighter jets are still handcrafted and assembled in the USA. The DoD budget has become the most straightforward and uncontroversial way to preserve jobs in your community and it's been going for so long it's not even seen as corrupt. On the other hand, a scientific research or infrastructure investment is a significant political risk with almost no upside. There's a reason Reid put a $22M UFO pork project through under the banner of DoD instead of using NSF or NASA etc.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link
did someone post that UFO pork project NYT story? cuz holy shit
it's too bad some of those missiles wind up w/ ISIS tho
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
how is there not a thread for the US DoD’s latest UFO program
― sleeve, Thursday, 21 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link
Come next NovemberBe sure to rememberRepublican treasonous plots.
I see no reasonRepublican treasonShould ever be forgot.
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:33 (six years ago) link
unless you want to actually connect with voters
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link
Yup, "the other guys are horrific" is not a compelling reason to vote if you can't prove you are just are horrific. You have to offer something positive to look forward to.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
what's the frequency thomas
http://deadline.com/2017/12/donald-trump-tweets-fox-friends-to-brokaw-newt-gingrich-at-war-1202231049/
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:17 (six years ago) link
xp -aren't as horrific
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:18 (six years ago) link
It's still empirically untrue. As long as you are in the opposition, that is.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 21 December 2017 19:20 (six years ago) link
donald trump is the soviet union's revenge
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 21 December 2017 20:58 (six years ago) link
Qualmsley, drop the Russia stuff for a little while, please
― Google Murray Blockchain (kingfish), Thursday, 21 December 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link
I thinks it’s cool that we have a celeb like Eric Garland posting here.
― louise ck (milo z), Friday, 22 December 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/26/off-message-bill-de-blasio-216168
― j., Wednesday, 27 December 2017 15:26 (six years ago) link
That piece‘s central argument is that the Mayor is supported and even admired by a majority of his voters and many fellow Democratic progressives who are willing to to go on the record, BUT... “they” think he’s smug, and “they” talk all kinds of smack off the record, and “they” are lots of people in the Democratic Party. Strong journalism.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 27 December 2017 15:53 (six years ago) link
still waiting for evidence that de blas belongs among the set "Democratic progressives" though. on housing, development and transit - perhaps the critical issues of inequality in NYC at this date - he has been barely distinguishable from bloomberg, with a focus on developer-friendly schemes and shiny toys at all levels.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:39 (six years ago) link
People I know who work in planning/transit HATE Di Blasio for his positions on those. Especially the latter, where he has no problem with hard crackdowns on turnstile jumpers and bicycles but won't give a thought to congestion pricing.
― Monster fatberg (Phil D.), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 16:53 (six years ago) link
also: vaporware light rail and real, expensive ferries for developers in north brooklyn, mysteriously impossible to spend money or time on anybody else's needs
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 27 December 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link
https://theoutline.com/post/2783/democrats-need-to-move-farther-left
― j., Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:05 (six years ago) link
^^^ some good stuff there! always encouraging to hear the face-to-face stuff with actual progressive candidates. rooting for all of them.
― Newb Sybok (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 28 December 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
I'm standing on my chair yelling HAM HAM HAM HAM
Outside of major cities, it can be shockingly easy to take effective political action. In many small towns, a little handful of committed people willing to make phone calls and mail fliers and knock on doors and wave signs and write letters and attend public meetings and generally make a very visible ruckus can get a lot of things done, because the competition for attention is not so great. Much of the actual work of politics is this sort of mundane, labor and resource-intensive stuff. Money helps, yes, but on a local level, what you really need is a band of committed people, a useful list of contacts, and a name recognizable enough for people to pay attention.If you can bring the committed people, you can plunder your local Democratic Party for the rest.
If you can bring the committed people, you can plunder your local Democratic Party for the rest.
https://splinternews.com/the-democratic-party-is-yours-take-it-1821647051
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 29 December 2017 23:12 (six years ago) link
hell yeah
At @MoonPalaceBooks and I just found the book that strike fear in the heart of @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/r81nYoeqpL— Rep. Keith Ellison (@keithellison) January 3, 2018
― I want to change my display name (dan m), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link
!
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:49 (six years ago) link
hello there, keith.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 January 2018 22:51 (six years ago) link
Newsweek def clinging to ThirdWayism
http://www.newsweek.com/bernie-sanders-rich-700-jacket-billionaires-768739
America needs to get back to normal so it must elect Joe Biden to a single term in 2020 | Opinion https://t.co/WkTsSeo150 pic.twitter.com/1vicX6MIWe— Newsweek (@Newsweek) January 3, 2018
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link
Biden-curious
― deez nuts roasting on an open fire (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link
Bidenfluid
― flappy bird, Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:03 (six years ago) link
ew
― garden of earthly deletes (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
Lol, surely a $700 jacket can't seriously be extravagant by Capitol Hill standards?
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:42 (six years ago) link
I hope his response is to show up on the Senate floor in one of Liberace's old minks.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:43 (six years ago) link
if this is really the best line of attack people have he's doing a fine job
― Simon H., Thursday, 4 January 2018 18:54 (six years ago) link
tbf i was a bit disappointed that Sanders agreed to function as a sort of inaugural prop for Mayor de Blasio, whose progressive bonafides are very flimsy until he gets me a cheaper apartment.
― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 January 2018 19:16 (six years ago) link
wtf is happening in the tone of that newsweek bernie tweak, is that breitbartian breathlessness actually how they write now
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:03 (six years ago) link
http://www.philly.com/philly/columnists/will_bunch/trump-make-america-great-again-mount-airy-germantown-will-bunch-20180104.html
― grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 4 January 2018 21:13 (six years ago) link
― No purposes. Sounds. (Sund4r), Thursday, January 4, 2018 10:42 AM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
a gift from his step-son who works at the company in vermont which makes the jackets.
― khat person (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 4 January 2018 23:01 (six years ago) link
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/if-you-want-to-know-whos-running-in-2020-watch-capitol-hill-not-iowa/
― j., Friday, 5 January 2018 05:39 (six years ago) link
From the late 1980s to 2016, neoliberal ideas held hegemonic sway among the Democratic elite. But the economy created by this ideology — and the ensuing crises — is a major reason why Clinton lost to Trump and the party is completely out of power today. This obvious failure has provided an ideological opening that the American left has been eager to fill.Yet even the left-wing is divided about the best way forward. Should it follow Elizabeth Warren's lead and promise a return to the trust-busting ways of the early 20th century? Or should it emulate the more sweeping, Nordic-style politics of Bernie Sanders? Or perhaps the Democratic Socialists of America are right and something even more extreme is needed.
Yet even the left-wing is divided about the best way forward. Should it follow Elizabeth Warren's lead and promise a return to the trust-busting ways of the early 20th century? Or should it emulate the more sweeping, Nordic-style politics of Bernie Sanders? Or perhaps the Democratic Socialists of America are right and something even more extreme is needed.
i like cooper, this'll be a decent series
http://theweek.com/articles/725419/decline-fall-neoliberalism-democratic-party
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 January 2018 15:45 (six years ago) link
Well organized summary thx- very shareable for some relations who need it.
― Hunt3r, Monday, 8 January 2018 16:10 (six years ago) link