Metal Box -- does anyone hate this as much as me?

Sorry, anything that has Poptones and Death Disco/Swan Lake on it is never going to be mellow in my book.

it does have other tracks on it

Yes, but those rather dominate the mood.

(YMMV, of course. But woah, I'm never coming round your gaff to chill out.)

Despair and anger. Very big in 1979 - see also Joy Division.

This album is fun.

Despair and anger. Very big in 1979 - see also Joy Division.

and Fear of Music...and...

WTF I can't believe you haters

That clip is making me rethink life in a good way.

Boy, Dick Clark sure yanked down that American Bandstand clip in a hurry. Bummer.

How much of the Lydon bio deals with the PIL era? Because the idea of reading yet another history of the Pistols or about anything after Flowers of Romance hardly seems worth the effort.

Speaking of, Metal Box is kinda screaming for the 33 1/3 treatement, no?

That clip is making me rethink life in a good way.

― Pete Scholtes, Saturday, 16 May 2009 17:51 (4 hours ago) Bookmark

I agree, but I can't believe it's not butter

i read lydon's book a long time ago and IIRC he doesn't discuss the PIL era at all.

Typical. There's a book about PIL but it's not available in the states. Maybe one of these days I'll splurge and buy it at the import price.

NO BLACKS, NO IRISH, NO DOGS does not cover the PIL era.

I shouldn't still get wound up about people hating the Pistols, because the records were meant to be hated, but face it, no Pistols, no PIL. No Punk, no post-punk. I've recently been bingeing on the various Mark E. Smith bios, and one of them describes him listening to "Holidays in the Sun" obsessively. But Mark is just another "Tuneless, rhythmless wanker who clearly makes no effort to sing anything that even remotely relates to what the musicians are doing".

Yes. I need to hear that sometimes.

OK, this thread then.

I was running through the PIL album pages on Wikip, and noticed that when recording one track for Metal Box, the thought went round "yeah, it sounds like The Doors, dunnit?" to general approval.

So, officially, "Albatross" is their sort-of take on "Riders on the Storm"

Metal Box is hard to love, but then PiL never really wanted anyone to send flowers. Can't agree with this general slagging of Levene, however. The guitar on the first changed something fundamental about how guitars sounded, distorted but also shiny and clean. It was something genuinely new and exciting. Loads of people ripped it off, or went trad in opposition to the trend. You could make similar arguments for Poptones.

should read "guitar on the first single changed somehthing etc.."

Nobody is slagging Levene on the basis of his Guitar playing.

Still, now I have to sing it:

Riders on the storm
riders on the storm
getting riid of the al-ba-trossssss

The OP most certainly was!

I didn't mean you Mark. I had been reading early threads.

I mean posts. Brain barely functioning tonight

WTF I can't believe you haters

― akm, Saturday, May 16, 2009 4:23 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark

this album is perfect.

also, for how "difficult" it's supposed to be i remember thinking it was poppier than i expected when i first heard it.

it's basically a ramones record compared to flowers of romance.

seriously

Kind of a downer, though.
I have to be in the mood for it.

yeah, not really getting this thread. i've never thought it was that super difficult of a record. loved it the first time i heard it as a teenager and still do.

let the take flood down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmfzuAd_u2E

s/b takes ffs never mind

A take is raining, across the border.

thought this had been revived for this

As I’ve commented before -j can’t stand some of the trivial puerile shit that you see on Twitter . I mean I co wrote metal box-that’s heavy shit, but whatever , I often ponder -what’s better ? Munchies or Rollo ? The crunchy biscuit base of the former or the classic chewy latter pic.twitter.com/a6r6exdCn5

— Jah Wobble (@realjahwobble) November 20, 2021

ive got a mind to buy the best, before the rest

(maltesers)

pil stinks.