pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

uh

softserve-ass bitchmade

this sounds like my scene tbh

admittedly, i've barely listened to any rage against the machine. i think i grabbed Battle of LA in the napster days, and i heard Guerilla Radio on the Tony Hawk soundtrack a million times. but that's it. so a few weeks ago i listened to 'killing in the name of' because that's the one that ragers always bring up. i gave it a fair shot and listened to it on headphones at a very high volume. killing in the name of sounds like a local jamband that doesn't jam, at least to me. it's bad. bad enough to make me never want to hear them again, especially if this is supposed to represent the band at their peak.

i guess this is my fault for thinking of them as a loud intense band. but if they're not good at that, what are they good at? am i supposed to be blown away by zack de la rocha's lessons?

anyway whiney i'll do you a favor: i'll stfu and listen to the rest of the album, and if i hate it i won't say anything.

Yeah, seriously, RATM were a joke from the moment I first heard them. "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

xpost aw

Yeah, I don't think there's a bad song on that album

everyone take their silliness to the controp thread, rage rules. Yes, zach de la rocha was extremely lazy and only wrote two or three lines max for a song. But killer riffs? they make up for a lot

ok rules are made to be broken but in the section where he sings "those who die, are justified...", just imagine it being replaced by "iiiiii just wanna fly" and it makes more sense. it's not only that it's in the same key, but the guitar riff is so boring and tame that it would actually make sense for a sugar ray song. idgi

only true nineties kids will understand: the first time i ever heard of RAM was when i saw them as one of the very early bands playing the main stage at lollapalooza

Yeah I was in HS, I don’t know about their everlasting quality, but everyone loved them back then.

Same, I can't imagine ever listening to them again. It's supreme music for people aged 17 or younger.

i still listen to RAM around the house, as jogging music and when i'm gearing up for my big fight against ivan drago

Yeah I was 17 or 18 at Lollapalooza in Chicago when I first heard RATM and it was AWESOME. See also NIN the year before. So both those first albums are unimpeachable to me even though objectively I can see their flaws.

ok rules are made to be broken but in the section where he sings "those who die, are justified...", just imagine it being replaced by "iiiiii just wanna fly" and it makes more sense. it's not only that it's in the same key, but the guitar riff is so boring and tame that it would actually make sense for a sugar ray song. idgi

― Karl Malone, Monday, December 18, 2017 12:15 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, you know this is going like, "Wow, Daft Punk sucks this reminds me of Deadmau5 or something"

the nu metal breakdown in "fly" is p sick but not as sick as that rage record

Same, I can't imagine ever listening to them again. It's supreme music for people aged 17 or younger.

I get this. When I was that age I loved the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

not gonna make big claims for ratm lyrics but if a white teenager thinks this song's all about him it's because he's a white teenager, not because he's right

There was a huge Kurt-inspired backlash against the kind of empty, testosterone-fueled corporate rock RATM were putting out in '92. Not hard to see a lot of people not digging it at the time.

karl you're implying lenny kravitz doesn't have riffs. or was that sugar ray? song has riffs. or at least a riff.

lol doesn't that first rage album have some note in the liners like "this album was made using NO computers!"

corporate rock RAtM = does not compute

yea dude they hung american flags upside down on snl

never listened to Rage outside of videos on TV. we had a Rage fan in high school, she had dreadlocks and Che Guevara shirts and stuff, and she was cool. i remember their music videos, they played alot on MTV and The Box when that was the Over-The-Air alternative. at one point i would see "Guerrilla Radio" every morning before high school.

this was one of those bands you would find their t-shirts at Hot Topic and stuff. i think it's cool that a band was politically active back then, imo there was a lot of cultural complacency. i dont think you can deny they were good performers and the guitarist was always doing cool stuff. i did like their funkier material (in this way they seem akin to RHCP).

fuck pitchfork for their Stereolab "Cobra" review.

xp there is literally a wiki about this topic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Against_the_Machine

I mean, you know this is going like, "Wow, Daft Punk sucks this reminds me of Deadmau5 or something"

the reason i brought up fly/sugar ray in comparison to killing in the name of/ratm is because i think the guitar riffs are roughly equal in intensity. it's just that one is supposed to be the peak of a song to mosh to in 1992, while the other is meant to meant to provide a calming listening experience while looking for a scarf in a department store.

karl you're implying lenny kravitz doesn't have riffs. or was that sugar ray? song has riffs. or at least a riff.

sugar ray! i didn't mean to imply that the songs don't have riffs. both songs definitely have riffs! maybe they really get you going, i don't know. to me, they seriously bring me back to high school days, listening to a guitarist play the same slappy part on a 10-watt amp in an adjacent practice room.

adam otm re Cobra the best stereolab album

damn y'all sure are owning the shit out of an 18-year-old brent dicrescenzo review. shame on you pitchfork

i gave rage legitimate props for introducing radical leftist politics to me as a teenager and thousands of other teenagers. even that fold-out CD insert just showing a bunch of radical books in evil empire had an influence on things i read and discovered as a teenager. seeing a brown frontman and a black guitar player in a popular rock band also was inspiring to this latino kid living in white suburbia. they were easily my favorite band as a teenager.

some of their sounds are good, i think evil empire especially, prob their best record

but they are also bad and many of their lyrics and riffs are terrible and embarrassing

http://shamebell.com/

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

i literally did this! my dad came in and took the cd out of the player and broke it.

What an asshole! You should run away

That's so awesome.

Thank goodness teenagers have streaming these days.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrb5AGizjoY

the need to rage against the machine has been nullified by our internet overlords

They're the Banksy of music

well, once raged-against, the machine started giving us free music so we became bros with it

I caught a set yesterday by a dubstep dj/producer named Rezz and the highlight was her remix of "Killing in the Name", so clearly they are still relevant

Yeah, seriously, RATM were a joke from the moment I first heard them. "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

― grawlix (unperson), Monday, 18 December 2017 17:02 (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how is this not a Turrican post

At a 1993 Lollapalooza appearance in Philadelphia, the band stood onstage naked for 15 minutes with duct tape on their mouths and the letters PMRC painted on their chests in protest against censorship by the Parents Music Resource Center. Refusing to play, they stood in silence with the sound emitted being only audio feedback from Morello and Commerford's guitars. The band later played a free show for disappointed fans.

otm

RATM are one of these bands I dislike in theory but then when I hear them, they def got the head nodding beats and riff

they are completely ridiculous but also sort of amazing for how dumb and ludicrous and shameless the whole thing is

(full disclosure: i wore a parental advisory warning tshirt from like 1992 to 1996 until it fell apart)

Oh hell yeah, was gonna say that stunt will forever make rage CLASSIC

Xp Nevermind & Rage s/t we're recorded at the same studio lol

xp didn't see the previous posts, so i assumed the stunt you were talking about was when the bass player climbed the set of the VMAs and wouldn't come down.

hey, that stunt ended hunger

https://i.imgur.com/Tvt18aI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dHlmGRM.png

I wish any VMAs moment from this decade was half as interesting as that one.

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