2020 Democratic presidential primary

"moderate republicans" can fuck off forever, celebrities or otherwise xp

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^ sign behind them said "American Generics"?

dems should grow some balls and run franken/weinstein

*pretends to be wound up*

thank you

I don’t think the rock should be allowed to coast to the nomination without his judgement being called into question by the press for some of these recent movies of his imo.

I have come to the conclusion that Dwayne Johnson running would be quite literally the worst possible thing that could happen

The idea that someone with zero experience in politics at any level ought to be elected president of the United States is profound foolishness. And yet it happened in the case of Trump. (btw, I count being the top commander of the U.S. armed forces as a political position, so Grant and Eisenhower get a pass on that one.)

Why would it be anyone but Warren?

because Harris has foreign policy credentials which will matter if, say, anything happens on that front in the next 3 years, or because Gillibrand is actually positioned to take advantage of a cultural moment of upheaval against an opponent that's an avatar of all she has spent her career fighting, or because damned fools are starry eyed over bernie, or because the donors really like Booker

She never seems like she is triangulating. She has a strong economic message that has been consistent throughout her time in the Senate, and she is good at articulating her outrage and disappointment at Republicans in a way that seems authentic. Her social democratic leanings come from a familar, even traditional understanding of fairness and a belief that the American system is perfectible. All of this has the potential to appeal to nearly every American.

Harris/Gillibrand - would be enthusiastic in my support of either of them
Warren - titan on consumer protections, need her profile to become more well-rounded in the next 3 years
Booker - c'mon, this guy is a pee wee football coach

Cory Booker seems like a more corrupt Adrian Fenty, which if he is would explain why he’s more successful than Fenty was.

listen i didn't say i like the guy

That was understood.

I can't think of anyone else around here who really does, either.

haha fair

xp, Fenty was middled by his commitments to fight the old corruption when his new corruption wasn’t fully capitalized yet. And he didn’t have the sense to see how badly Rhee was going to fuck him over to increase her own Q rating.

Booker has similar characteristics but he’s working a bigger tax base, can compare himself favorably to pathetic wannabe gangsters like Christie, and doesn’t have a singular union-hating class-baiting subordinate siphoning all his press whenever he pretends to give a shit about working families.

But yeah. Same same, although I’d rather have a beer with Fenty for sure.

If for no other reason than to try and get him to round three and laughing at my jokes so I can ask “in your own words, how bad did Michelle own you?” And then “bike lanes and cab meters are nice, but you knew you already had all us white folks, right?”

lol that guy talking about a 2020 Sanders run seems like the most unpleasant dude in the history of the world

Why would it be anyone but Warren?

Who knows if she'll even choose to run? Beyond that, 2020 is seven years away in political time. At this time in 2005, Obama was just the size of a small cloud on the horizon you could cover up with one hand.

damned fools are starry eyed over bernie

who would've won

make that could've and I'd agree. would've presumes too much omniscience.

xp agreed, in the past tense

harris i guess

make that could've and I'd agree.

whoa are u sure

seems self-evident. as opposed to absolutely certain victory for sanders.

seems self-evident.

huh, yr right

“hardworking middle class families,” this fetish... https://t.co/jk66uzTDfs

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that thread otm

https://splinternews.com/the-10-worst-possible-democratic-presidential-tickets-1829056282

lol none of those are going to happen

why do yr read a garbage agent-provocateur rag like splinternews anyway

lol "these are just the plausible ones"

well #1 clearly not gonna happen

why do u watch a garbage agent-provocateur hack like tarant... ah fuckit

My guess from watching the primaries: It's between Warren, Booker nd Harris. In order of likelihood

bezos notably absent

it'll be a governor not a senator

Bloomberg just announced a run, and Cuomo is obviously trying to set himself up for one. Both are delusional.

bloomberg does check off a very important box for me. i just can't trust anyone to represent me who isn't a billionaire

A FB friend keeps posting about how he thinks Bloomberg can win and I clown him every time. RN I'm trying to goad him into taking my $100 bet that he will not win a single primary. Easy money imo, I'm considering giving him odds. I'd go 10:1.

Bloomberg and Cuomo both definitely delusional, no nat'l audience wants to listen to either of them

I dunno anyone who likes Booker, dunno where his base would come from.

It's between Gillibrand and Harris and Warren and Biden I think.

Biden won't make it I don't think

I know he's polling well right now and all but there are too many skeletons in that dusty old fucker's closet

he's also just sooooo old and his main "advantage," which is very much an on-paper advantage, would be as a kind of "return to normalcy" candidate with spoken or unspoken "he could win the white working class" material, but more generally as "hey folks agree or disagree on policy we all can say that, this craziness in the white house, it's not supposed to be like this, what happened to (wipes away tear) decency?"

which might genuinely play in the general election, but it's not where the energy is in the primary electorate, at all. yes people loathe trump and every noxious fascist thing he standa for. but they're also fired up on fifty policy fronts. and ready for fired-up, victorious women and POC giving a giant fuck-you to the white supremacist party that's captured teh castle. biden just doesn't feel like the vessel for any of the unspoken redemptive dreams out there, where the trump nightmare in some topsy-turvy way later makes sense and feels resolved because it precipitates a new era of major progressive policy shifts. medicare for all is at the center of this but there's a lot more. basically i just don't see volunteers getting fired up to organize for joe biden, there's not a hook there that would inspire that with these other people in the running.

which might genuinely play in the general election, but it's not where the energy is in the primary electorate, at all.

agree with yr guys' posts - but Biden is going to very much try to thread this needle, and a certain portion of the party (the "sensible adults") are gonna buy it.

he'll get some big donors, some labor endorsements, but yeah he isn't going to play well with the primary base

and his opponents shouldn't have a hard time picking out the Anita Hill thing, his usurious credit card business ties, or any number of other blatantly disqualifying factors