This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

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Jean-Pierre Leaud

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

I'm not sure it's acting but it's a performance

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:40 (six years ago) link

Oh right! That counts. (Maybe I should say non-English and non-French?)

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:45 (six years ago) link

of course it's acting, he aint dead

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:46 (six years ago) link

Sherwan Haji in The Other Side of Hope

def Nahuel Pérez Biscayart in BPM, esp cuz Jeff Wells think it's the wrong kind of gay

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:48 (six years ago) link

Adèle Haenel for the 3 films she was in

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:49 (six years ago) link

Claes Bang in The Square. Elliott Crosett Hove in Winterbrothers. The one from Spoor. The leads in On Body and Soul.

But performance of the year is Charlotte Ramplings Volpi-winning all time great turn in Hannah, btw. Look forward to that!

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

he's asking for votes for stuff that's already out in the US, but keep humblebragging

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:57 (six years ago) link

Kim Min-hee in the Hong Sang-soos! And the lead in A Fantastic Woman.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

Is Hannah out?

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:58 (six years ago) link

Oh, sorry, now I get what you're saying. Well, I don't always check US release dates, I think some is out in NY? (Also, it's not really bragging that I get to see different films. I saw Neruda today, a year after the US premiere, it seems. It's just different)

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:01 (six years ago) link

no US distro as yet for Hannah

The Square looks really annoying

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:03 (six years ago) link

It is! In a raelly great way, imo, but it's also a really Scandinavian movie. ymmv.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:06 (six years ago) link

yeah i both liked and hated the square, i think it's worth seeing even if you kind of want to slap all of the main characters

k3vin k., Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:09 (six years ago) link

I have to admit, it's made for me. I studied cultural communication, and I recognize pretty much all the characters...

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:16 (six years ago) link

I studied cultural communication

Why are you doing on ILX then?

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:27 (six years ago) link

Parts of the Square are really feeble - the subplot about the piles of detrius being accidentally cleaned up (lol modern art is indistinguishable from rubbish lol), the entirely predictable/unshocking 'shocking' video of the child being blown up, cheap laughs at the guy with tourette's at the press conference, who cannot be silenced because of middle class artworld fear over 'blocking discourse'. The ape guy at the party is obviously meant to be socially awkward to watch, but the scene comes so late in this (much too long) movie that you can't help feeling just duffed up by it, even though the performance is obv a technical bit of work. The only time the film really came alive for me was the long sequence of the museum director and his work intern going off to post the leaflets in the block of flats - very tense, a sense of disaster looming, hubris, good music - and the robbery scene before that.

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:37 (six years ago) link

I don't think this has been posted yet

https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-20-best-film-scenes-of-2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:40 (six years ago) link

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And Killing of a Sacred Deer is ten times smarter and funnier than The Square about male privilege and economic inequality without resorting to apparently unironic shots of homeless people camped outside art museums.

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:43 (six years ago) link

I really like Dogtooth and The Lobster but Sacred Deer was a shitty arthouse revenge movie

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:47 (six years ago) link

I really like you Michael B but that was a shitty revenge on arthouse post

Akdov Telmig (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:50 (six years ago) link

:P

Well bissogled trotters (Michael B), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:52 (six years ago) link

witty arthouse revenge

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

And Killing of a Sacred Deer is ten times smarter and funnier than The Square about male privilege and economic inequality without resorting to apparently unironic shots of homeless people camped outside art museums.

^^^ this.

The Square played as if Östlund set out to write a parody of a Cannes favorite for a Eurotrash Living in Oblivion.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

I give purportedly misanthropic cinema a colder reception, but Killing's wit and use of horror compensated.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

The Square is not about economic inequality, that's one of the biggest misreads of it, imo.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:16 (six years ago) link

To answer Eric's question: Sherwan Haji in The Other Side of Hope.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:17 (six years ago) link

And the many shots of homeless people would be absolutely ordinary if you went to Stockholm. It's one of the things that has stuck with me after travelling to swedish film festivals.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

It's like complaing an NY film had too many shots of subways.

Frederik B, Thursday, 14 December 2017 23:19 (six years ago) link

does Elizabeth Moss do her usual mogadon performance in The Sq?

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 15 December 2017 00:20 (six years ago) link

that everyone's like oh Eliz Moss is so magnetic! to

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Friday, 15 December 2017 00:21 (six years ago) link

Nathan Rabin's Top 10

iCloudius (cryptosicko), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:47 (six years ago) link

I preferred The Square to Sacred Deer despite it being about a half-hour too long.

Simon H., Friday, 15 December 2017 14:49 (six years ago) link

xp shares only 4 of my top 10 list, not bad

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Friday, 15 December 2017 14:53 (six years ago) link

man, Close really looked like an ill Stan Laurel in AN

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Friday, 15 December 2017 15:07 (six years ago) link

square snobbery here is confounding to me but tastes differ i guess

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 15 December 2017 16:13 (six years ago) link

Justin Chang's list.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:14 (six years ago) link

and Chicago Film Critics announced their winners yesterday:

Picture: Lady Bird
Director: Christopher Nolan, Dunkirk
Actor: Timothée Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Actress: Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
Supporting actor: Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Supporting actress, Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Original screenplay: Jordan Peele, Get Out
Adapted screenplay: James Ivory, Call Me by Your Name
Foreign language film: The Square
Documentary: Jane
Animated feature: Coco
Cinematography: Roger Deakins, Blade Runner 2049
Editing: Jonathan Amos and Paul Machliss, Baby Driver
Art direction: Blade Runner 2049
Original score: Jonny Greenwood, Phantom Thread
Most promising performer: Timothee Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Most promising filmmaker: Greta Gerwig, Lady Bird

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 December 2017 21:16 (six years ago) link

"let's have the dead compete against one another for our memorial award," said the Online Film Critics Society pic.twitter.com/3utkYlpJVZ

— Jason (@jasonosia) December 18, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 17:36 (six years ago) link

Update: The Memorial and Lifetime Achievement Awards from the Online Film Critics Society are no longer nominees, they will award all names mentioned in both categories. #OFCS

— Erik Anderson (@awards_watch) December 18, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

Goldderby summa. Let's see if Chalamet, the frontrunner, can shake off Oldman:

The Phoenix Critics Circle (PCC) had two picks for the best pic of the year: “The Shape of Water” and “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri.” This marks the first win for either film from any of the 14 critics groups heard from to date. “The Florida Project” and “Get Out” have four wins apiece from the critics.

The Phoenix scribes awarded Best Actress to both Sally Hawkins (“The Shape of Water”), and Oscar frontrunner Frances McDormand (“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”). The former leads the latter by a margin of six wins to four.

Timothee Chalamet (“Call Me by Your Name”) won over the Phoenix critics thus bringing his total up to five. He continues to widen the gap with the two other leading Best Actor Oscar contenders who have each picked up a pair of prizes: Daniel Day-Lewis (“Phantom Thread”) and Gary Oldman (“Darkest Hour”).

While Sam Rockwell (“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”) picked up his third critics award, Supporting Actor Oscar frontrunner Willem Dafoe (“The Florida Project”) already has nine crowding his mantle. And with her win with the PCC, Best Supporting Actress Oscar frontrunner Laurie Metcalf (“Lady Bird”) now has nine as well while her closest rival, Allison Janney (“I, Tonya”), remains at four.

The Phoenix folks went with Christopher Nolan (“Dunkirk”) for Best Director and split the screenplay award between Greta Gerwig (“Lady Bird”), Martin McDonagh (“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri”) and Jordan Peele (“Get Out”).

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:37 (six years ago) link

cuz it's all about THE OSCARS

THE GOLD STANDARD

Cynthia Nixon was nominated by the OFCS btw

http://ofcs.org/category/weekly-updates/ofcs-awards/

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

And this reluctant member tossed her a vote too.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

Also, I have no idea how that dead people "nominees" thing came about.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Phantom Thread listed but not DDL is curious

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

Also, critics award ties are the actual worst.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link

THE GOLD STANDARD

are they made of gold? I thought they were chocolate.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

hence Harvey Weinstein's have vanished

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

I gave Cynthia Nixon a nod too, along with Aubrey Plaza. Morbs' beloved Nahuel Pérez Biscayart among my actors.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:56 (six years ago) link

whither Adam Sandler?

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 18 December 2017 18:57 (six years ago) link


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