pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

the "R" in reddit stands for "RYM"

I thought it was pretty obvious that it would be end up as their #1. Not really a huge upset imo.

i mean bodak yellow clearly isn't great but the whole point of, say, reading pitchfork or even liking music is participating in this willful charade of forced 'this is good and makes me happy'-ness so... who cares

Why the fuck did they do this again? They already did an AMA once and it was a disaster. I understand p4k not wanting to answer most of these questions, why open yourself to inevitable criticism and easy dunking that only reaffirms enmity towards the site?

I'm guessing because Condé Nast owns Reddit and someone on staff had to run the gauntlet of red pills, MRAs and paedos

millennial males gonna millennial male

it’s not direct ownership.

https://www.recode.net/2017/7/31/16037126/reddit-funding-200-million-valuation-steve-huffman-alexis-ohanian

but reddit is where the eyeballs are. platforms are key, even if they host the_donald and other incel gathering spots

I wasn't referring to reddit really, more "why would they open up a free forum for questions that they know they won't answer?" i mean the lack of a comments section on p4k is one of its defining features. I get the ownership thing, still an awkward position to be in.

yeah and also everyone is in “get as many new eyeballs in as possible” panic

The web site is now leading with Doug Jones winning the Alabama Senate race.

lmao holy shit

Pitchfork's Cat Person Corner featuring Yusuf Islam

Doug Jones Defeats Roy Moore in Alabama Senate Election,
Walks Off to “Teach Me How to Dougie”: Watch
That actually, seriously happened

that headline is so great in so many ways

Pitchfork's Cat Person Corner featuring Yusuf Islam

― Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Wednesday, December 13, 2017 6:06 AM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lmao

Lol I saw someone make the same joke on Twitter and literally did a spit take

https://i.imgur.com/JxH4860.png

too low

https://pitchfork.com/news/pitchfork-review-scale-now-zero-to-one-hundred-thousand/

what kind of revisionist softserve-ass bitchmade opinion is "the first rage against the machine album isn't good, ACTUALLY?"

go listen to king krule, crybabies

http://memegenerator.net/img/images/600x600/17100071/nintendo-thumbs-up-kid.jpg

i dont know who king krule is

http://cloud-3.steamusercontent.com/ugc/442856328487727448/6C1CD860D33A88D84045326F873C01A36F7BA777/

^that's king krule^

how is hate for RATM revisionist? People laughed at them from day 1.

uh

softserve-ass bitchmade

this sounds like my scene tbh

admittedly, i've barely listened to any rage against the machine. i think i grabbed Battle of LA in the napster days, and i heard Guerilla Radio on the Tony Hawk soundtrack a million times. but that's it. so a few weeks ago i listened to 'killing in the name of' because that's the one that ragers always bring up. i gave it a fair shot and listened to it on headphones at a very high volume. killing in the name of sounds like a local jamband that doesn't jam, at least to me. it's bad. bad enough to make me never want to hear them again, especially if this is supposed to represent the band at their peak.

i guess this is my fault for thinking of them as a loud intense band. but if they're not good at that, what are they good at? am i supposed to be blown away by zack de la rocha's lessons?

anyway whiney i'll do you a favor: i'll stfu and listen to the rest of the album, and if i hate it i won't say anything.

Yeah, seriously, RATM were a joke from the moment I first heard them. "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

xpost aw

Yeah, I don't think there's a bad song on that album

everyone take their silliness to the controp thread, rage rules. Yes, zach de la rocha was extremely lazy and only wrote two or three lines max for a song. But killer riffs? they make up for a lot

ok rules are made to be broken but in the section where he sings "those who die, are justified...", just imagine it being replaced by "iiiiii just wanna fly" and it makes more sense. it's not only that it's in the same key, but the guitar riff is so boring and tame that it would actually make sense for a sugar ray song. idgi

only true nineties kids will understand: the first time i ever heard of RAM was when i saw them as one of the very early bands playing the main stage at lollapalooza

Yeah I was in HS, I don’t know about their everlasting quality, but everyone loved them back then.

Same, I can't imagine ever listening to them again. It's supreme music for people aged 17 or younger.

i still listen to RAM around the house, as jogging music and when i'm gearing up for my big fight against ivan drago

Yeah I was 17 or 18 at Lollapalooza in Chicago when I first heard RATM and it was AWESOME. See also NIN the year before. So both those first albums are unimpeachable to me even though objectively I can see their flaws.

ok rules are made to be broken but in the section where he sings "those who die, are justified...", just imagine it being replaced by "iiiiii just wanna fly" and it makes more sense. it's not only that it's in the same key, but the guitar riff is so boring and tame that it would actually make sense for a sugar ray song. idgi

― Karl Malone, Monday, December 18, 2017 12:15 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I mean, you know this is going like, "Wow, Daft Punk sucks this reminds me of Deadmau5 or something"

the nu metal breakdown in "fly" is p sick but not as sick as that rage record

Same, I can't imagine ever listening to them again. It's supreme music for people aged 17 or younger.

I get this. When I was that age I loved the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

"Fuck you I won't do what you tell me - I'm going to my room!"

not gonna make big claims for ratm lyrics but if a white teenager thinks this song's all about him it's because he's a white teenager, not because he's right

There was a huge Kurt-inspired backlash against the kind of empty, testosterone-fueled corporate rock RATM were putting out in '92. Not hard to see a lot of people not digging it at the time.

karl you're implying lenny kravitz doesn't have riffs. or was that sugar ray? song has riffs. or at least a riff.

lol doesn't that first rage album have some note in the liners like "this album was made using NO computers!"

corporate rock RAtM = does not compute

yea dude they hung american flags upside down on snl

never listened to Rage outside of videos on TV. we had a Rage fan in high school, she had dreadlocks and Che Guevara shirts and stuff, and she was cool. i remember their music videos, they played alot on MTV and The Box when that was the Over-The-Air alternative. at one point i would see "Guerrilla Radio" every morning before high school.

this was one of those bands you would find their t-shirts at Hot Topic and stuff. i think it's cool that a band was politically active back then, imo there was a lot of cultural complacency. i dont think you can deny they were good performers and the guitarist was always doing cool stuff. i did like their funkier material (in this way they seem akin to RHCP).

fuck pitchfork for their Stereolab "Cobra" review.

xp there is literally a wiki about this topic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_and_activism_of_Rage_Against_the_Machine

I mean, you know this is going like, "Wow, Daft Punk sucks this reminds me of Deadmau5 or something"

the reason i brought up fly/sugar ray in comparison to killing in the name of/ratm is because i think the guitar riffs are roughly equal in intensity. it's just that one is supposed to be the peak of a song to mosh to in 1992, while the other is meant to meant to provide a calming listening experience while looking for a scarf in a department store.

karl you're implying lenny kravitz doesn't have riffs. or was that sugar ray? song has riffs. or at least a riff.

sugar ray! i didn't mean to imply that the songs don't have riffs. both songs definitely have riffs! maybe they really get you going, i don't know. to me, they seriously bring me back to high school days, listening to a guitarist play the same slappy part on a 10-watt amp in an adjacent practice room.

adam otm re Cobra the best stereolab album

damn y'all sure are owning the shit out of an 18-year-old brent dicrescenzo review. shame on you pitchfork