Tom Waits

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of course, YouTube :-)

Ludo, Tuesday, 12 December 2017 20:13 (six years ago) link

two months pass...

All the remasters (so, everything except the Island albums) are on Bandcamp now.

https://tomwaits.bandcamp.com/

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 11 March 2018 00:52 (six years ago) link

When I was in my twenties and worked in "the biz," I misspelled his name in a letter ("Dear Mr. Waites"). My boss discovered it after it had already gone out, and was (understandably) quite pissed off, ha ha.

absorbed carol channing's powers & psyche (morrisp), Sunday, 11 March 2018 04:44 (six years ago) link

so... is he doing the Island albums next?

StanM, Sunday, 11 March 2018 11:27 (six years ago) link

five months pass...

Appears on the new ribot record

dig me out requiem (Ross), Monday, 10 September 2018 04:24 (five years ago) link

I think I don't need the remasters. Does anyone have any of them? Does one or two stand out?

Duke, Monday, 10 September 2018 21:09 (five years ago) link

heard the real gone one was great, perhaps ilxors can comment

Ross, Thursday, 13 September 2018 18:49 (five years ago) link

Is that one simply remastered or remixed as well?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:15 (five years ago) link

I've only heard the Real Gone one. it's good and there are a couple of differences but I wouldn't say it's essential

Scritti Vanilli - The Word Girl You Know It's True (dog latin), Thursday, 13 September 2018 20:19 (five years ago) link

eleven months pass...

All female covers album out Nov. 22

https://www.spin.com/2019/08/tom-waits-covers-album-phoebe-bridgers-aimee-mann/

Herman Woke (cryptosicko), Saturday, 24 August 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oncg1WJP8uU

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

Man, they really fucked up "Hoist That Rag" on the remaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orxPuV06jgM

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

WTF? Are all the tracks remixed/rerecorded like that?

One of the best guitar performances of Marc Ribot's career, sure, why not turn it way down until its barely audible. What a baffling decision.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link

Nothing else is that egregious but the original mix/master sounds better all the way around

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:46 (three years ago) link

i pulled up hoist that rag on spotify a couple of weeks ago because i was in the mood and i honestly thought it was a cover for a minute. so weird.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 14 August 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link

whoo, that is a serious downgrade.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 14 August 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

Ah, better times for the Real Gone songs (but with Judah Bauer instead of Ribot)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NR5SHuJDlUQ

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

^^I love that version so much, incredible performance.

Roz, Friday, 14 August 2020 09:23 (three years ago) link

Been thinking about Waits again lately. I have that Real Gone remaster on vinyl and it's quite jarring.

I put together an extensive career-spanning 'Best of' playlist here https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4FbY20jZVLSCXvfI4W1rvr?si=lMeXBmuATlWtgaNsbFfNww

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

This is a timely revive for me. Honestly cant remember the last time I put any of the records on, its surely been over 10 years. But just in the last couple weeks he's randomly been on my mind again (apocalypse? nostalgia?) and I've been thinking its time to revisit

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 12:46 (three years ago) link

it is kind of weird. Someone I know posted an interview with him a couple of days ago, and I got so excited I almost posted the same interview here, until I noticed it was maybe 20 years old. When this thread popped up again I for some reason figured it was someone else posting the same interview, like it had just been unearthed or something, but no, just a bunch of unrelated folks just thinking about Tom Waits.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:50 (three years ago) link

^^^^ this.

A "press conference" from 10 or 15 years ago kept appearing on my Twitter feed this week.

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

This is the one I saw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojX3ef2Gfgc

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link

LOL Josh I totally watched that within the last week as well! Looks like it was just uploaded in June, it must be making the rounds of peoples YouTube recommendations. Its a neat interview, its fun to see him in such a good mood.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

He should name his next album "Algorithm."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 13:16 (three years ago) link

I've suddenly found myself enjoying his 21st century records much more than when they came out. A major correction after Mule Variations, which felt like the Swordfishtrombone persona was tapped out.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link

I went back to Bad As Me yesterday and it was better than I remember. I did enjoy it at the time but it didn't seem to have its own 'character' like most of his other albums, more a distillation of previous work. Still, it's a real solid hoot anyway

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 14 August 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link

I'm sure he's fine, personally and financially, but I file Tom Waits near the top of the list of artists who right now probably wished they toured a bit more.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link

I've heard that the early alcohol consumption and later theatrical distancing were there because of serious stage anxiety.

Julius Caesar Memento Hoodie (bendy), Friday, 14 August 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psk3rmjonQA

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

That's what i saw a few days ago ^^

Duke, Friday, 14 August 2020 14:58 (three years ago) link

I will absent-mindedly find myself singing "God's Away On Business" while doing a mindless chore, it's like having a song stuck in my head for the last ~17 years.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

Xxxpost: it’s been a while since I heard “hoist that rag” and that remaster is so alien to me. Where those horns added in? I don’t remember them being there before unless they were way back in the mix. I like how those horn sound but without the guitar it’s missing something primal about it. It was the heart of the song.

âś–âś–âś– (Moka), Friday, 14 August 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

Is this more of a remix then? Are all Waits recent remasters like this where it’s more of a second version than a real remaster?

âś–âś–âś– (Moka), Friday, 14 August 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

I think it's just Real Gone that sounds significantly different.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

From Waits' Bandcamp page:

Grammy nominated and featuring an entirely new mix that better fulfills the dynamic musical soundscape Waits/Brennan envisioned from the beginning. To accomplish this they returned to the multitrack session tapes and enhanced certain instruments or a vocal arrangement to create a sound that better represents the full bodied more sonically vibrant and jagged edges that Waits and Brennan were originally going for but lost.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

It's the Iggy Raw Power mix of Waits releases

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

damn

it sounds like a lot of elements in the mix are

real gone

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

The horns are definitely new.

Tom Waits: "Ima fix Hoist That Rag"

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

Ribot's playing on that reminds me of his Cuban band, he must have really been in that mode at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0IPcqI3NH8

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

listening to the Real Gone remaster again, tbh if you didn't know what the OG "Hoist That Rag"sounded like there would be no issues. the album sounds great.

unpaid intern at the darvo institute (Simon H.), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

I have the original mix (which I hated at the time FTR) on a hard drive and I'm comparing it to the new version (on Bandcamp). The horns are entirely new on "Hoist That Rag" (or excised from the mix at the time and restored later) and I think the increased Cuban-ness of it makes the new version a little better. I remember reading an interview at the time where Waits said he wanted to make the album really noisy and harsh to suit both his and the national mood, and he succeeded - it's the St. Anger of his catalog IMO, and I've never liked it. I'm gonna buy this updated version.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

I could totally see them having recorded the horns at the time and then stripping it down to make it super minimal and raw, and years later thinking 'hey those horns sound pretty sweet'.

TW is sounding great to me today. Also reminding me that his records are where I really fell for Ribot.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 14 August 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link

Couldn’t they have kept that different version of Hoist That Rag as a bonus track or something at least? It’s fine, but I’d take the more minimal, gnarled up original version any day. Weird to completely replace it.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:41 (three years ago) link

One of my favorite TW tracks tbh, annoyed he’s George Lucas-ing it.

circa1916, Saturday, 15 August 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

Yeah same, his best track of the 2000s imho, really caught lightning in a bottle with it

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

Insane to not at least leave the old mix up somehow. I've got it on my old iTunes archive drive but I never use that anymore.

Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 15 August 2020 03:56 (three years ago) link

I remember when Orphans came out, a bunch of those tracks i had already been familiar with for years due to filesharing & owning the various comps and sdtks, and the orphans versions of many of them had overdubs and new parts punched in, most of which didnt help the songs imo. Obviously some of it was just due to familiarity with the previous versions, but it was still weird to hear these songs, many of which had really fantastic spare arrangements and carefully-mixed soundworlds, all of a sudeen filled with a bunch of drums and banjos and harmonica, which sounded like they were all recorded in the same session. I remember being particularly annoyed at a bunch of Charlie Musselwhite blues harp soloing all over "Heigh Ho".

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Saturday, 15 August 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

I would never change a single thing about the OG Hoist That Rag and I wish he would put out an entire album that sounds like that.

epistantophus, Saturday, 15 August 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link


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