This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

I'm legit shocked by the #1.

What was your guess, Morbs?

Another December, another Wiseman not screening till God knows when

#19! I really don't have a good sense anymore of who votes in that poll. xp

Ex Libris is screening at NYC MoMA on the 28th, c'mon up. (I missed its monthlong run here, which was shockingly short.)

I owe y'all a visit. Probably January or early Feb.

i guess the FC voters are NYC-heavy, so that helped Good Time.

Also by rough count 14/20 played one of the last two NYFFs or opened at Lincoln Center.

#11 seems to have, ahem, surged from outta nowhere.

what did y'all think of The Other Side of Hope (? I'm watching it on Thursday.

Also, fully half that list is American, which I'm surprised by at this point.

Never mind, found the Kaurismaki thread.

Missed Human Surge but it's running at a local year-wrapup series soon.

haven't seen one of these:

https://www.filmcomment.com/best-undistributed-films-of-2017/

I ... have my work cut out for me in '18.

Number 1 is indeed very good, was in competition at CPH:PIX. Have only seen a couple of the other ones.

Ex Libris is worth seeing but it's among his weaker ones tbh

http://lwlies.com/articles/best-original-film-soundtracks-2017/

i just watched Central Park and was disturbed to see Ed Koch and Cardinal O'Connor breathing again

xp

from that follies link; this nails one of my biggest issues with Three Billboards
"The script's many acid-tongued speeches pander relentlessly to the film's target audience of white liberals, allowing them to get off on the cheap thrill of hearing a well-placed slur while simultaneously giving them a chance to applaud their own sense of moral righteousness."
saw this at a packed house at BAM and can absolutely confirm this as truth. amazingly well acted but mostly empty.

I do think there's a good essay to be written about this film's place in one of 2017's predictably predominant themes: lack of accountability.

that goes double for the mostly execrable Wind River which was bad enough on more or less every level that I ended up walking out during the protracted, unnecessary and vaguely prurient rape scene. that film sucks.

there's always been good money in flattering your audience

National Film Registry Class of 2017

SCREEN ACTOR GUILD AWARDS

Supporting Female, Motion Picture
Mary J. Blige, Mudbound
Hong Chau, Downsizing
Holly Hunter, The Big Sick
Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Laurie Metcalf, Ladybird

Supporting Male, Motion Picture
Steve Carrell, Battle of the Sexes
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri

Leading Female, Motion Picture
Judi Dench, Victoria & Abdul
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan, Ladybird

Leading Male, Motion Picture
Timothee Chalamet, Call Me By Your Name
James Franco, The Disaster Artist
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington, Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Cast
The Big Sick
Get Out
Ladybird
Mudbound
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri

"Supporting Female"

Harrelson instead of Hammer, eh?

More like Carell instead of literally any other person who's actually been discussed for the award thus far.

But, yeah, audiences at large aren't hugely into CMBYN it appears.

The Post is the more shocking exclusion, but maybe the SAG nomination body at large just hasn't seen it.

Man, poll deadlines loom and I'm struggling to think of many foreign language performances to break up the English-language monotony.

BPM's leads and then ... ?

Jean-Pierre Leaud

I'm not sure it's acting but it's a performance

Oh right! That counts. (Maybe I should say non-English and non-French?)

of course it's acting, he aint dead

Sherwan Haji in The Other Side of Hope

def Nahuel Pérez Biscayart in BPM, esp cuz Jeff Wells think it's the wrong kind of gay

Adèle Haenel for the 3 films she was in

Claes Bang in The Square. Elliott Crosett Hove in Winterbrothers. The one from Spoor. The leads in On Body and Soul.

But performance of the year is Charlotte Ramplings Volpi-winning all time great turn in Hannah, btw. Look forward to that!

he's asking for votes for stuff that's already out in the US, but keep humblebragging

Kim Min-hee in the Hong Sang-soos! And the lead in A Fantastic Woman.

Is Hannah out?

Oh, sorry, now I get what you're saying. Well, I don't always check US release dates, I think some is out in NY? (Also, it's not really bragging that I get to see different films. I saw Neruda today, a year after the US premiere, it seems. It's just different)

no US distro as yet for Hannah

The Square looks really annoying

It is! In a raelly great way, imo, but it's also a really Scandinavian movie. ymmv.

yeah i both liked and hated the square, i think it's worth seeing even if you kind of want to slap all of the main characters

I have to admit, it's made for me. I studied cultural communication, and I recognize pretty much all the characters...

I studied cultural communication

Parts of the Square are really feeble - the subplot about the piles of detrius being accidentally cleaned up (lol modern art is indistinguishable from rubbish lol), the entirely predictable/unshocking 'shocking' video of the child being blown up, cheap laughs at the guy with tourette's at the press conference, who cannot be silenced because of middle class artworld fear over 'blocking discourse'. The ape guy at the party is obviously meant to be socially awkward to watch, but the scene comes so late in this (much too long) movie that you can't help feeling just duffed up by it, even though the performance is obv a technical bit of work. The only time the film really came alive for me was the long sequence of the museum director and his work intern going off to post the leaflets in the block of flats - very tense, a sense of disaster looming, hubris, good music - and the robbery scene before that.

I don't think this has been posted yet

https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-20-best-film-scenes-of-2017

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And Killing of a Sacred Deer is ten times smarter and funnier than The Square about male privilege and economic inequality without resorting to apparently unironic shots of homeless people camped outside art museums.

I really like Dogtooth and The Lobster but Sacred Deer was a shitty arthouse revenge movie

I really like you Michael B but that was a shitty revenge on arthouse post