Why is casual racism/sexism more accepted in video games than other forms of media (these days)?

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surprised the number for women is so low, given what playing games w boys is like

difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 December 2017 03:20 (six years ago) link

I'm not that surprised actually. The way women compete with each other can be pretty brutal!

Nhex, Monday, 11 December 2017 04:30 (six years ago) link

that... was not my takeaway

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 04:49 (six years ago) link

I think Nhex may have chosen one of the more awkward possible ways to convey the sentiment that “it is not surprising that women are not intimidated by competing or playing with men, considering how competitive women can be with each other”

El Tomboto, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:16 (six years ago) link

This is also weird because isnt one of the sexist-git arguments about how many women gamers there are, is "no they just play mobile games, and those dont count!".

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 11 December 2017 05:23 (six years ago) link

One quibble with that finding: I'm not sure that this statement is well-phrased:

"I would spend more time playing mobile games if I knew I was playing with or against players of my own gender"

It's ambiguous between "only players of my own gender" and "at least some players of my own gender". It's not clear that the 25%/47% are all saying that they would prefer to play exclusively with men.

jmm, Monday, 11 December 2017 05:47 (six years ago) link

thanks tomboto - i was sorta trying to get at that, you said it better

Nhex, Monday, 11 December 2017 06:41 (six years ago) link

yeah, sorry if i was unnecessarily snarky there; i know you well enough to read that as somewhat ill put and not from a place of evil

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Monday, 11 December 2017 06:50 (six years ago) link

i didn't mean that they're intimidatingly competitive i meant that they hate women

difficult listening hour, Monday, 11 December 2017 08:09 (six years ago) link

"I realized Milo could connect with these kids right away," Bannon told Green. "You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." ~ Steve Bannon on Milo/Breitbart's use of #GamerGate to boost Trump.

— Erik Kain (@erikkain) December 13, 2017

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, 14 December 2017 21:39 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

i don't think this story quite fits the thread and yet i don't know where to put it

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:25 (six years ago) link

Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread

Nhex, Sunday, 31 December 2017 09:55 (six years ago) link

lmao

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

actually more of a chuckle

mag gerwig! (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:47 (six years ago) link

the obsession with thigh gap has inadvertently revolutionized the concept of the butt

Karl Malone, Friday, 5 January 2018 17:55 (six years ago) link

asses: how do they work

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:56 (six years ago) link

Filed to: FINE ART

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 January 2018 17:57 (six years ago) link

the texture detail looks like a mattress - on purpose?

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 5 January 2018 18:38 (six years ago) link

ban kotaku

pee-wee and the power men (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 5 January 2018 19:01 (six years ago) link

Meanwhile his male characters are desperately in need of adequate thigh clearance.

jmm, Friday, 5 January 2018 19:10 (six years ago) link

what a crepe

"Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Saturday, 6 January 2018 08:16 (six years ago) link

Filed To: FINE ARSE

how's life, Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:18 (six years ago) link

bingo

not raving but droning (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:24 (six years ago) link

even without the problematic thigh gap issue all of those character designs are terrible and embarrassing

Joan Digimon (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 6 January 2018 22:25 (six years ago) link

one month passes...

omg

kinda perfect that the position of the cloud in the third panel makes it look like king koopa is vaping

bathed and ready for a snack (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:21 (six years ago) link

maybe just start killing people

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:26 (six years ago) link

where’s that ‘they targeted gamers! gamers!’ copypasta when i need it

bathed and ready for a snack (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 4 March 2018 11:30 (six years ago) link

In the wake of the game’s release, people have also done things like releasing a mod that gives dark skin to key character Cpt. Bernard as a joke. The mod is titled “Inclusive Cpt. Bernard,” and it got over a thousand upvotes on Kingdom Come’s subreddit in reaction to Eurogamer’s review of the game, which criticized its politics.


https://steamed.kotaku.com/kingdom-come-owes-its-popularity-to-realism-and-conserv-1823420208

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 March 2018 14:32 (six years ago) link

Increasingly, I feel that those who impugn social justice (and, by extension, the basic bonds of the society whose benefits they enjoy) should be forcefully thrown from a very high cliff.

To their deaths, in case my intent wasn't clear.

Did you ever see a doffin, did you (Old Lunch), Sunday, 4 March 2018 16:44 (six years ago) link

Having read about the various mechanics in that game I have concluded it is basically the coal rolling of pc rpgs.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 4 March 2018 17:04 (six years ago) link

I'm sad because I've pined for a real history RPG for years but not with mitteleuropa Nazis as the goodies

Under the influence of the Ranters (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 4 March 2018 17:13 (six years ago) link

i like the idea of all the worst and most incompetent people all getting together in one place. if this gets popular enough maybe online games will become somehow playable.

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Sunday, 4 March 2018 17:53 (six years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Hello. We've heard all the discussion today regarding the lack of diversity at Eurogamer and thank you for it. No excuses, we are not proud of it and will work harder to improve the range of voices on the site.

— Oli Welsh (@oliwelsh) March 23, 2018

||||||||, Sunday, 25 March 2018 21:34 (six years ago) link

You can actually get quite far down the responses before someone asks for more political diversity.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 26 March 2018 00:10 (six years ago) link

turns out runescape is still a thing! unfortunately it's full of nazis

Apparently there was a virtual riot/nazi rally on runescape earlier because jagex (the developer) released an LGBT awareness update pic.twitter.com/NcfzEnPjIy

— Tiffany (@immortaltiff) April 5, 2018

star wars ep viii: the bay of porgs (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:12 (six years ago) link

kind of lol

alvin noto (mh), Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:29 (six years ago) link

also kind of lol: Jagex has the worst gender pay gap in UK gaming

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:30 (six years ago) link

Runescape's british? Huh. Surprised I'm surprised by that.

JimD, Thursday, 5 April 2018 14:56 (six years ago) link

one month passes...
two weeks pass...

This is interesting:
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2018/06/06/the-struggle-over-gamers-who-use-mods-to-create-racist-alternate-histories

Seems like devs and moderators are taking a considered approach (or perhaps not doing nearly enough about the problems?) given the weaponising of petty grievances into GG-related conspiracies, though the guy who just purged the Steam message board did a good job

Neil S, Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:11 (five years ago) link

yeah definitely not doing enough! Ted52 is a bit of a hero...

Neil S, Thursday, 7 June 2018 11:20 (five years ago) link

https://www.polygon.com/2018/6/13/17458286/battlefield-women-star-wars-rick-morty

Typical story these days, but I feel like Ben Kuchera deserves some credit for wading into the filth, clickbaiting the toxic manbabies to this story and engaging with/insulting them in the comments section. I don't know if it's actually worthwhile, but he's got more courage than I do.

Nhex, Wednesday, 13 June 2018 20:02 (five years ago) link

pretty amazing that Harmon has been left completely off the hook for raging like a petulant child via Twitter at a low wage employee during that whole fiasco last year

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:30 (five years ago) link

Typical story these days, but I feel like Ben Kuchera deserves some credit for wading into the filth, clickbaiting the toxic manbabies to this story and engaging with/insulting them in the comments section. I don't know if it's actually worthwhile, but he's got more courage than I do.

― Nhex

on the one hand maybe but on the other hand i don't want rian johnson to get his trilogy cancelled for shit he said on twitter, you know?

Arch Bacon (rushomancy), Thursday, 14 June 2018 00:43 (five years ago) link

i dont see how it is courageous to defend Star Wars, Rick and Morty, and "videogames", all massively popular media properties that your employer covers daily. it's kind of getting old. how many stories do we need on the tiny minority of MRA people. do we really need to hear their input on every topic? what is gained from scapegoating them in lieu of actually looking at the content of these properties and why these types of people may be drawn to it in the first place?

these are giant global brands consumed by millions of people, no doubt there are always going to be some lunatics among them. it is annoying to constantly be hearing about the most extreme horrible fans, as if it nullifies anything else wrong with these movies or tv shows.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:06 (five years ago) link

this is just giving them a platform. if someone is trolling a celebrity for lolz then having a website write them up is only going to make them want to do it more.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 14 June 2018 17:11 (five years ago) link


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