Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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I have decided that I will spend the rest of my days pushing my important thesis that certain dimensions of the woodsmen's practice derive from Otto Muehl's Scheiß-Kerl (1969) and I almost embedded my profoundly persuasive screencap comparison here but decided it might be just about NSFW

The set packaging is very cool though I'm not wild about the disc slot things. I'd have preferred old-school jewel case style holders.

Having just watched Scheiss Kerl for the first time, I’m going to say I think there might be more differences than similarities between ghostly entities spreading a creature’s own blood around and pornographic actors spreading their own shit on a guy. imho, reasonable ppl may differ of course

Twin Peaks feat. Costes

Having just watched Scheiss Kerl for the first time, I’m going to say I think there might be more differences than similarities between ghostly entities spreading a creature’s own blood around and pornographic actors spreading their own shit on a guy. imho, reasonable ppl may differ of course

I never said I was reasonable. My important thesis, too, would never call itself reasonable!
(It's more like an in-joke with friends that, as an Austrian in the US, I will always bring up the actionists. But I like the idea!)

weird take:

One of the most noteworthy movies of 2017 is a TV show, “Twin Peaks: The Return,” all eighteen episodes of which were directed by David Lynch and written by Lynch and Mark Frost. The series came in at the No. 1 spot on the Cahiers du Cinéma list, and at No. 2 in the Sight & Sound poll. It’s not on my list, and not only because it’s not a movie but, rather, a TV show that shares some important traits with movies—most significantly, having one director throughout. Most of what’s good in “Twin Peaks: The Return” is good in movie-like ways—the pacing and framing, the space and time and tone that develop around, and are inseparable from, the realization of certain main characters (especially the ones played by Kyle MacLachlan and by Lynch himself) and some secondary ones. But most of its worst aspects, such as the jigsaw plotting, the episodic separations and anticipations and echoes, and the overblown fantasy (as in the excruciating eighth episode and the recurrences of the Red Room) are TV. The crucial inspiration of the series—the cosmic centrality of rape, incest, and the murder of a young woman, and the impossible quest for justice, the irresistible temptation to try to put the damaged world back into joint—spans both cinema and television; it’s the mark of Lynch’s over-all artistic greatness.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2017-in-review/the-best-movies-of-2017

excruciating eighth episode

instant opinion DQ

would never think to describe anything that occurs in episode 8 as “overblown fantasy”

or as “tv”

/ excruciating eighth episode /

instant opinion DQ

If you can't accept that TV is just rife with abstract studies of the irruption of evil into the world via the black magick of nuclear technology over the accompaniment of Penderecki and the Platters, I don't know what to tell you. Let the genius of Gentlemen Broncos (2009) into your heart and sin no more

this does little to budge my years-long conception of brody as a good stylist but a bad thinker

reviews from the alternate world where stan brakhage had a tv series

"Welcome to the Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes! I'm Bob Ross, and today we're going to explore the unthought horror of our own bodies considered as matter and as form."

Guy's too into only having challops or camp for something like ep 8. I mean, his favourite Star Wars is Revenge of the Sith, iirc

come on, brody’s taste is too reckless and arbitrary to be directed by contrarianism (n.b. that’s also my favorite star wars movie)

he wrote a really good piece on the return a few months ago that also had a few totally bullshit sentences in it

wow that is really disappointing from Brody, I like him. he's definitely not an Armond White contrarian (tho I love Armond)

Great essay by Sara Swain

http://offscreen.com/view/circling-the-void-twin-peaks-return

yesssss

agreed, that was an excellent writeup

Great

best thing I've read about the show. Also the most satisfying take on the Audrey storyline, too

any feedback on the extras yet? I ordered the DVD since I don't have a Blu player so I'm quite annoyed that I don't have access to those blu-exclusive extras. I dare say they will become *available* at some point though...

DVD arrived today btw. a kind of complicated many-folding soft-jewel case which I've never seen but there is Zero info on the box. No inserts let alone postcards or anything else. It's cool because it works out at around £2 per disc/ £1 per episode and I'm certainly not complaining at that price (£20 inc. delivery!)

rewatching this for what is essentially the third time has been a real blast

my flashlight’s broke

all of the minor characters are so well realized

Who
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Gives
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A fucking SHIT
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How long a scene is
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Is there a site that TL;DR's Frost's books? I gave up on the first book after a few starts and the second one has zero appeal.

Who
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A fucking SHIT
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How long a scene is
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― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, December 18, 2017 10:34 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

david lynch otm

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Omg u guys what did wins mean by that blank post I think it represented judy

Well now

I'm not gonna talk about that

ZOMgggh

that scene where gordon and albert visit the prison and first see mr. c is so heartbreaking. i also love how kyle maclachlan speaks every word of his monologue as if it were summoned from the bottom of the blackest ocean

on the new episode of the lodgers, they were talking about a dream feature that would allow you to shuffle the scenes of the whole series at random and now i can't stop thinking about it as something that should exist

someday...

I too would like randomised ambient twin peaks the return, possibly taking up an entire wall of my space age bachelor pad

I wrote a whole piece about the Gordon/Cooper prison scene. My favorite of the series... David Lynch acts his off on that. The disappointment of not being given the reunion you were promised, the betrayal Cole seems to feel when he has to play along and flash a thumbs up at the end of their conversation. “Yes, Coop. I too have missed our good times together.”

Is that available to read somewhere?

yeah, It's a little rushed and scrambled in its attempts to process the show's finale, but it was nice to spend some time with that scene (and the idea of Cole as an audience surrogate)

https://www.sportsalcohol.com/end-twin-peaks-denied-us-good-times-together/

Nice one

The entirety of THE RETURN is screening at MoMA for free in January, for you lucky New Yorkers

i'll be there if possible

lol i'm already rewatching the whole thing and i can't wait to do it again in a theater with people :\

I'm in New York in January!

...a week after this finishes. This is an outrage

Finished my rewatch, which was great. I notice that 17/18 aren't considered a unit on the DVDs. I'm mostly just thinking about the structure - what things are artistic decisions and what are artifacts of the medium. In what ways are (1+2) and (3+4) discrete in a way that (17+18) aren't? Not important, of course.

Also watched the extras that aren't on the extra disc (on the DVDs); would like to get drunk and talk folk music with David Patrick Kelly.

the docs on the last disc are SO good. I still haven't watched the panel yet but I would kill to get Lindelof on the 'cast.