Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

I wish the ability to watch the entire series in non-streaming quality, since it's sometimes garbage, on demand. But also don't want to own more discs

we're in such a transitionary phase, apt for the series, and maybe somehow we can get it on rental vhs or a bad fifth-gen vhs dubbed copy

We've been watching everything Lynch in chronological order since The Return started up. We just finished Mulholland Drive, next up is Dumbland and Rabbits. We're going to finish up by rewatching season 3 and all of the bonus biz. I'm sort of nervous about the empty feeling I'll have when it's all done!

Most excited about all of the weirdo short films that came out after Inland Empire. I know nothing about them so there should be a lot of good surprises.

Best Buy online has it for $47 and free shipping. Erm, I'm not affiliated with BB btw. After I griped at Amazon they gave me a free month of Prime.

I've rewatched parts 1 & 2 on blu-ray and sequences in the woods, the red room, & New York look so, so much better without the digital noise of streaming. Can't wait to get to part 8.

One thing that doesn't fully square for me is that Bob is this magnificent, concentrated evil, unleashed by an atomic bomb, and... he spends decades inside a small town lawyer who kills a couple women and

I never took it as Leland being the sole host for Bob - Mike / Philip Gerard's history with him doesn't line up with Bob being bound to either Leland or the locale of Twin Peaks, for one major factor. My assumption first time around, which it never occurred to me to rethink until now, was that Bob frequently inhabits or influences other people during times that he's not actively "controlling" Leland.

Although: First time around I read it that Laura (often) and Sarah (exclusively?) saw Bob manifest on his own. Rewatching it all (and re-reading the Secret Diary) last year, I was less sure; it seemed plausible that this was intended much more on the 'metaphor for denial / trauma' end than the 'evil spirit' end of the ambiguity.

the Judy concept, whatever it is, presented itself as cosmic in 17 but distilled down to a bad vibe at the Palmer household by the end of 18. I

but that's in an alternate universe version of the Palmer household, after travelling through multiple different realities, and seeing the characters splinter & fold & remanifest as new avatars of their own past damage. and the vibe is so bad that, just maybe, Laura's terror breaks the whole universe. pretty cosmic tbf

Well, Laura talks about BOB in the diary, which would imply some interaction with him - rather than being her name for that side of Leland, I guess? Of course, it's still all about that splitting, but BOB is a separate being, and Laura seems to think of him as such.

What I mean is, the split into Leylandii and bob seems to be metaphorical, to me, rather than something that takes place plot wise. BOB predates the events in (most of) the show.

Like the autocorrect to Leylandii - was thinking of that when it was a crossword answer recently.

And Leylandii (Leyland cypress) as a hybrid could be meaningful? (Sorry, not well and drunk,
So just ignore this)

Bob in the Secret Diary often functions as a metaphor for Laura's own sexuality, and fear of it, as well as a distinct entity

Bob was just one bubble in a huge stream of spew from the Experiment. He's magnificent, concentrated evil AND one woman's terror, no contradiction there. His crimes don't seem pedestrian to me at all.

New delivery date of 12/18 for me.

Everyone otm just because it's all good stuff

But sic and wins are the takes that jive with my viewings

Also, it's Laura Palmer's story, so the only BOB we really need to see in its maximum effect is through that prism. The whole spiral off into alternates at the end of season 3, still Laura's story. The black lodge, it's Laura we're there for and she's there throughout too. FWWM very explicitly her prequel. The BOB we see is her BOB.

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I have decided that I will spend the rest of my days pushing my important thesis that certain dimensions of the woodsmen's practice derive from Otto Muehl's Scheiß-Kerl (1969) and I almost embedded my profoundly persuasive screencap comparison here but decided it might be just about NSFW

The set packaging is very cool though I'm not wild about the disc slot things. I'd have preferred old-school jewel case style holders.

Having just watched Scheiss Kerl for the first time, I’m going to say I think there might be more differences than similarities between ghostly entities spreading a creature’s own blood around and pornographic actors spreading their own shit on a guy. imho, reasonable ppl may differ of course

Twin Peaks feat. Costes

Having just watched Scheiss Kerl for the first time, I’m going to say I think there might be more differences than similarities between ghostly entities spreading a creature’s own blood around and pornographic actors spreading their own shit on a guy. imho, reasonable ppl may differ of course

I never said I was reasonable. My important thesis, too, would never call itself reasonable!
(It's more like an in-joke with friends that, as an Austrian in the US, I will always bring up the actionists. But I like the idea!)

weird take:

One of the most noteworthy movies of 2017 is a TV show, “Twin Peaks: The Return,” all eighteen episodes of which were directed by David Lynch and written by Lynch and Mark Frost. The series came in at the No. 1 spot on the Cahiers du Cinéma list, and at No. 2 in the Sight & Sound poll. It’s not on my list, and not only because it’s not a movie but, rather, a TV show that shares some important traits with movies—most significantly, having one director throughout. Most of what’s good in “Twin Peaks: The Return” is good in movie-like ways—the pacing and framing, the space and time and tone that develop around, and are inseparable from, the realization of certain main characters (especially the ones played by Kyle MacLachlan and by Lynch himself) and some secondary ones. But most of its worst aspects, such as the jigsaw plotting, the episodic separations and anticipations and echoes, and the overblown fantasy (as in the excruciating eighth episode and the recurrences of the Red Room) are TV. The crucial inspiration of the series—the cosmic centrality of rape, incest, and the murder of a young woman, and the impossible quest for justice, the irresistible temptation to try to put the damaged world back into joint—spans both cinema and television; it’s the mark of Lynch’s over-all artistic greatness.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2017-in-review/the-best-movies-of-2017

excruciating eighth episode

instant opinion DQ

would never think to describe anything that occurs in episode 8 as “overblown fantasy”

or as “tv”

/ excruciating eighth episode /

instant opinion DQ

If you can't accept that TV is just rife with abstract studies of the irruption of evil into the world via the black magick of nuclear technology over the accompaniment of Penderecki and the Platters, I don't know what to tell you. Let the genius of Gentlemen Broncos (2009) into your heart and sin no more

this does little to budge my years-long conception of brody as a good stylist but a bad thinker

reviews from the alternate world where stan brakhage had a tv series

"Welcome to the Act of Seeing with One's Own Eyes! I'm Bob Ross, and today we're going to explore the unthought horror of our own bodies considered as matter and as form."

Guy's too into only having challops or camp for something like ep 8. I mean, his favourite Star Wars is Revenge of the Sith, iirc

come on, brody’s taste is too reckless and arbitrary to be directed by contrarianism (n.b. that’s also my favorite star wars movie)

he wrote a really good piece on the return a few months ago that also had a few totally bullshit sentences in it

wow that is really disappointing from Brody, I like him. he's definitely not an Armond White contrarian (tho I love Armond)

Great essay by Sara Swain

http://offscreen.com/view/circling-the-void-twin-peaks-return

yesssss

agreed, that was an excellent writeup

Great

best thing I've read about the show. Also the most satisfying take on the Audrey storyline, too

any feedback on the extras yet? I ordered the DVD since I don't have a Blu player so I'm quite annoyed that I don't have access to those blu-exclusive extras. I dare say they will become *available* at some point though...

DVD arrived today btw. a kind of complicated many-folding soft-jewel case which I've never seen but there is Zero info on the box. No inserts let alone postcards or anything else. It's cool because it works out at around £2 per disc/ £1 per episode and I'm certainly not complaining at that price (£20 inc. delivery!)

rewatching this for what is essentially the third time has been a real blast

my flashlight’s broke

all of the minor characters are so well realized

Who
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How long a scene is
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Is there a site that TL;DR's Frost's books? I gave up on the first book after a few starts and the second one has zero appeal.

Who
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How long a scene is
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― sonnet by a wite kid, "On Æolian Grief" (wins), Monday, December 18, 2017 10:34 AM (three minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

david lynch otm

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Omg u guys what did wins mean by that blank post I think it represented judy

Well now

I'm not gonna talk about that

ZOMgggh

that scene where gordon and albert visit the prison and first see mr. c is so heartbreaking. i also love how kyle maclachlan speaks every word of his monologue as if it were summoned from the bottom of the blackest ocean

on the new episode of the lodgers, they were talking about a dream feature that would allow you to shuffle the scenes of the whole series at random and now i can't stop thinking about it as something that should exist

someday...