Love Will POLL Us Apart – Joy Division – New Order Solo or other groups Poll (aka the Electronic poll) – Artist Poll #37 A New Order supplement poll (Voting is open until Friday, Dec. 8, 2017)

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all i have been doing is listening to either Joy Division or Electronic for the last two and a half weeks. putting this in order is the hard part and i'm previewing the song now as well.

Bee OK, Thursday, 7 December 2017 02:58 (six years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjZX4byAFCg

Bee OK, Thursday, 7 December 2017 04:48 (six years ago) link

Does Joy Division's Peel Sessions (i.e. the Complete BBC recordings) count as an album?

https://www.discogs.com/Joy-Division-The-Complete-BBC-Recordings/master/23225

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 7 December 2017 08:06 (six years ago) link

So all Friday 8th we can still vote, yeah?

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 10:38 (six years ago) link

That 98 tour.. man. Funny to look back now and remember it as the last time the 'With Hooky' line up were still all getting along. It was also great (IMO) that they had got back together to just do a few shows rather than punting a new album. I saw the NYE show a few months later but yeah the Reading show is the best record of that tour, Vince Power made room for them in the second-to-last-band-of-the-night slot behind Garbage(!) after Phoenix Festival (where they were due to headline) went tits up. It was the show that made Justine Frischmann want to turn Elastica into a synth-band-with-guitars so she says! Even the first few minutes with Barney talking to the crowd brings the hairs up. The version of Isolation is amazing. Supposedly Shirley Manson said "how the fuck are we gonna follow that" when they came on afterwards..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJjkU9bTqlU

piscesx, Thursday, 7 December 2017 12:31 (six years ago) link

I went to that. Was a bit confused about the Garbage headline thing cos I had no recollection of that, but I looked at the line up poster and I went to see Spiritualized headline the tent after New Order. The line up pictures online also have Curve playing that day in the tent but they definitely did not.

Colonel Poo, Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:14 (six years ago) link

I own that '98 show on DVD and it's a barnstormer. I actually whooped Barney style when they did "Paradise."

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 13:16 (six years ago) link

So sad/weird that they didnt play Regret on their last tour

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 7 December 2017 14:38 (six years ago) link

Does Joy Division's Peel Sessions (i.e. the Complete BBC recordings) count as an album?

Sure, if you want to vote for this l can include that as an album in that part of the rollout

Bee OK, Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link

the update of "True Faith" with the house piano break is marvelous.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:26 (six years ago) link

Yeah thanks for posting this. I’d never seen this. They are on fire. So good to see the sheer joy of playing again songs they’ve played thousand of times (eg Stephen Morris singing along behind keyboards on BLT)

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Thursday, 7 December 2017 18:46 (six years ago) link

So all Friday 8th we can still vote, Yeah?

Yes.
I'm going to leave it open all weekend, we need the ballots.

Bee OK, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:23 (six years ago) link

Thanks man, want to contribute but don't have the time tomorrow (moving house)

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 7 December 2017 22:25 (six years ago) link

Thanks - will submit a ballot this weekend!

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Friday, 8 December 2017 04:23 (six years ago) link

i will send out confirmation emails starting tonight.

Bee OK, Friday, 8 December 2017 14:55 (six years ago) link

I own that '98 show on DVD and it's a barnstormer. I actually whooped Barney style when they did "Paradise."

I have that video too, but got it for the '81 show and it never even occurred to me watch the other one, having been really disappointed when I saw them in '89. Will definitely check it out now after seeing that Heart and Soul clip. Not a fan of the Barney whoops though.

early rejecter, Friday, 8 December 2017 15:41 (six years ago) link

I have not even received double digit ballots yet, so if you are thinking about voting please, please, please vote as this poll desperately needs voters. Even if you only have a three song ballot of Joy Division songs please send it along.

Bee OK, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:19 (six years ago) link

I sent my ballot about an hour ago. Outside of maybe three or four songs, my JD ballot could have contained just about anything depending on the day.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Friday, 8 December 2017 20:40 (six years ago) link

Good news, the ballots are starting to roll in. Keep voting!

Bee OK, Friday, 8 December 2017 23:18 (six years ago) link

conformation emails are starting to be sent out, if you voted you will get one in the next few minutes to the next hour.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 02:28 (six years ago) link

VOTING IS STILL OPEN

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

I'll throw one together in the next hour or so

Vinnie, Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:29 (six years ago) link

after the first 5 choices it became really hard. all my stuff is very particular to me and not at all cannon

YouTube_-_funy_cats.flv (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:52 (six years ago) link

I really like “thieves Li

calstars, Saturday, 9 December 2017 04:57 (six years ago) link

11:31 PM
12/8/2017

a very depressing day

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:32 (six years ago) link

(i'm a SF Giants fan)

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 07:39 (six years ago) link

sorry got caught up with work. just sent it, hope it's not too late

Vinnie, Saturday, 9 December 2017 12:14 (six years ago) link

As an early voter, it doesn't bother me if the entry period is extended.

Spencer Chow, Saturday, 9 December 2017 17:12 (six years ago) link

I threw one in but didn't get confirmation yet

i know kore-eda (or something), Saturday, 9 December 2017 17:15 (six years ago) link

I'm going to leave it open all weekend
This wasn't a joke, I hope? Will send mine tonight (CET). Part one done.

dorsalstop, Saturday, 9 December 2017 17:53 (six years ago) link

not a joke.

Voting has been extending to Sunday Night

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:32 (six years ago) link

I put Tighten Up as my number one. I vividly remember rewinding the tape over and over to hear that song again and again. It sounded like Bigmouth crossed wirh Shellshock (86-87 era Pettibone mixed tracks) and delivered on the sound in my head when I heard Johnny and Bernard were working together. These days the intro sounds terribly dated but the vocals and guitars are great. Bad Lieutenant played it on tour, but I never heard a decent recording of it. It’s a shame these songs from the Electronic catalog are going unplayed. Johnny played a couple on his last tour but his voice is as bad as Hooky’s and nobody really wants to hear that.

brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:35 (six years ago) link

I didn't even mind that the sound was slightly fusty even in summer '91.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:56 (six years ago) link

"Dated" isn't pejorative to me, by the way

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 December 2017 19:57 (six years ago) link

Terminal lurker ballot sent under duress. Amazing that after all these years, the effort of picking favorites among JD songs still provokes emotional tugging.

Albums I wish New Order had tried to make:

1984 instrumental album with the long version of 5-8-6 on one side, the long version of Elegia on the other, allowing room for the long version of Perfect Kiss on Low Life
Some sort of dub collaboration with someone like augustus pablo, sly and robbie, etc. digging deeper into confusion, blue monday, etc. more melodicas? slow stuff down?
A full video album's worth of mid 80s live in the studio versions, after they saw the success of the perfect kiss. Demme should have made an anti-Stop Making Sense with them - black and white, no audience, no funny business, no guests, multiple retakes until each song was got right.
An early 90s unplugged album of the hits. Love the slow version of Regret by Afghan Whigs and, yes, the much maligned Frente cover. So some stuff like that sung by bernie (True Faith and Temptation might be good like this) mixed with some campfire singalong style stuff - Love Vigilantes could work well with chugging acoustic guitars or a country strum.
A late 90s live album of JD songs including redoing Sister Ray, the '87 version annoys me. Gang of Four and Mekons' punk re-does were kind of pointless, but sounded good, so I'd be interested in a whole album of Bernie singing Ian's songs, provided the backing still had some teeth from Hook.

Probably all of these would be crap if they actually happened but I like to think about these things.

The full warsaw tape should get released with the sound quality of the three tracks on the box set. I particularly like the versions of Novelty and Transmission. Also, the 1980 no-guitar-overdub versions of Only Mistake and the Kill would be nice, the unimproved version of Walked In Line was interesting to hear.

mig (guess that dreams always end), Saturday, 9 December 2017 20:17 (six years ago) link

sent out another round of conformation emails. if you have voted you should have one.

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 22:56 (six years ago) link

this is shaping up to be a great poll, hope we can get just a few more...

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

VOTING IS STILL OPEN

Bee OK, Saturday, 9 December 2017 22:57 (six years ago) link

Thanks for extending the deadline. Voted.

the future is now, Sunday, 10 December 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link

I sent mine off a few days ago but haven't received a confirmation email so I'm resending just to be safe

ufo, Sunday, 10 December 2017 03:57 (six years ago) link

I put Tighten Up as my number one. I vividly remember rewinding the tape over and over to hear that song again and again. It sounded like Bigmouth crossed wirh Shellshock (86-87 era Pettibone mixed tracks) and delivered on the sound in my head when I heard Johnny and Bernard were working together.

agreed, great song (though I didn't submit a part 2 ballot)

crüt, Sunday, 10 December 2017 04:00 (six years ago) link

1984 instrumental album with the long version of 5-8-6 on one side, the long version of Elegia on the other, allowing room for the long version of Perfect Kiss on Low Life

I love those long versions, but more as background/concept pieces rather than album length ideas. And I never understood the need for the edited version of Perfect Kiss, other than their insistence on not having singles on albums. Why not have "Face Up" closing Side 1 and the eight minute "Perfect Kiss" closing Side 2?

A late 90s live album of JD songs including redoing Sister Ray, the '87 version annoys me. Gang of Four and Mekons' punk re-does were kind of pointless, but sounded good, so I'd be interested in a whole album of Bernie singing Ian's songs, provided the backing still had some teeth from Hook.

Have you seen this TV performance by Peter Hook and the Light?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cSe-1Dpv8o

It's the closest thing to the Martin Hannett productions coming to life on stage (as opposed to what JD live really sounded like). The vocals are an abomination for the most part, but the music sounds great.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 10 December 2017 10:54 (six years ago) link

i'm a bit worried about lost ballots after what ufo said, so if you did not get a confirmation email, please send again.

Bee OK, Sunday, 10 December 2017 19:12 (six years ago) link

ONLY A FEW HOURS LEFT TO VOTE

Bee OK, Sunday, 10 December 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link

Sent!

lingereffect (Kent Burt), Sunday, 10 December 2017 21:07 (six years ago) link


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