This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

let's just leave release dates alone bcuz they always vary! no one seems to realize that New York is what counts

no one has had the opportunity to see the entirety of TP Season 3 in a cinemaaah, hence it doesn't qualify, case closed.

also J Hoberman loves Dogville and hates Abbott & Costello so fuck him forever

Not going to link the Broadcast Film Critics Awards nominations, because some things are even too shameful for the detrius thread.

Suffice it to say, they're betting the farm on The Shape of Water being the big Oscar winner this year. Because that's their entire reason for being.

NYT crix weigh in: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/movies/best-movies.html

I haven't seen it but I just can't imagine the fishfucking movie catching on in that way.

ugh at Warlocaust of the Apes making one of those lists

desperately hoping Dunkirk makes it into Reverse Shot's "Offenses" list this year

I expect many of my favorites on that list tbh.

Dunkirk is definitely making that list. And the whole thing is going to be about how clearly Nolan made it to celebrate Brexit.

The Killing of a Sacred Deer and, I'm reasonably certain, Lady Bird will also end up getting cited there.

I'm prepared for sea level rise to have done with Florida if it prevents directors from making odes about us.

A compromise I trust many could live with.

Also, if Three Billboards DOESN'T end up on the Reverse Shot "offenses" list, then the entire proposition is bankrupt.

x-post: Especially now that Sean Baker has made the perfect one anyway.

Critic's Choice have given Molly's Game two nominations. Who are these people? I want a documentary or research study on these schmucks.

x-post: Especially now that Sean Baker has made the perfect one anyway.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why are you always like this?

Um, cover of the year anyone? pic.twitter.com/l279InPFHI

— Nigel M. Smith (@nigelmfs) December 6, 2017

much prefer Sacred Deer's offenses to Sean Baker's

Catholic bishops will walk out of TFP pro-abortion

http://www.clickhole.com/article/huge-mix-christopher-nolan-accidentally-submitted--7027

AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE ANNOUNCES
AFI AWARDS 2017 OFFICIAL SELECTIONS

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, December 7, 2017, LOS ANGELES, CA — The American Film Institute (AFI) announced today the Official Selections of AFI AWARDS 2017, celebrating the year's most outstanding achievements in the art of the moving image — with 10 films and 10 television programs deemed culturally and artistically significant.

In addition to the 20 honorees, AFI also recognizes THE VIETNAM WAR with an AFI Special Award.

AFI AWARDS is a coveted honor for its noncompetitive celebration of collaboration. Honorees are selected based on works that advance the art of the moving image, enhance the rich cultural heritage of America's art form, inspire audiences and artists alike and make a mark on American society.

"At a time when the world seems defined by division, storytellers bring us together as one," said Bob Gazzale, AFI President and CEO. "AFI AWARDS is honored to celebrate this community of artists who challenge and inspire us, entertain and enlighten us — ultimately reminding us of our common heartbeat."

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

THE BIG SICK
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME
DUNKIRK
THE FLORIDA PROJECT
GET OUT
LADY BIRD
THE POST
THE SHAPE OF WATER
THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI
WONDER WOMAN

aside from Wonder Woman, i think we have an ossified top layer now.

The Big Sick is eminently forgettable. I don't get the acclaim.

I enjoyed it until the concluding half-hour of house-cleaning.

I think The Big Sick falls outside that top layer now and Three Billboards is cuspy thx to its politics. Otherwise, yeah, that's the slate from here on out in a nutshell.

Usually I let Morbs do the honors, but since I myself haven't seen Slant's #1 movie this year: https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-25-best-films-of-2017

And the ballots: https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/slants-top-25-films-of-2017/

Eric! The Ornithologist!

oh yeah!

I thought Nocturama a letdown after its first hour, and other than Pattinson's reliably solid performance and the editing Good Time escapes me too.

I thought you were a letdown after your first hour.

honey, I don't last that long

There's a lot I haven't seen on there, and nothing that I have is totally undeserving. Well played!

Personal Shopper and The Ornithologist (both at NYFF 2016) were meh for me

(no trite sexual banter from the peanut gallery, please)

The Ornithologist and Staying Vertical sometimes blur in my memories, i.e. rural surreal sexual hijinks

I feel so much better about loving Personal Shopper knowing it was a Morbs-meh.

honeybunch, if you fly to NY in 2 weeks i can probably get you into Phantom Thread at MoMA

I preferred when the invitations came from "Unknown."

i haven't used that name in years.

Richard Brody's list

“Good Time,” starring Robert Pattinson, streaks and smears and shreds the screen with a sense of furious subjectivity.

The hell does this mean?

Still trying to figure out the coda discussions on Twin Peaks, specifically ep 8

People seem to have forgotten about Detroit

Which, whatever problems you have with it, is certainly better than 3 Billboards

BOSTON SOCIETY OF FILM CRITICS

Best Film
PHANTOM THREAD
Runner-up: The Shape of Water

Best Director
Paul Thomas Anderson, PHANTOM THREAD
Runner-up: Guillermo del Toro, THE SHAPE OF WATER

Best Actor
Daniel Kaluuya, GET OUT
Runner up: Timothée Chalamet, CALL ME BY YOUR NAME

Best Actress
Sally Hawkins, THE SHAPE OF WATER
Runner up: Vicky Krieps, PHANTOM THREAD

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe, THE FLORIDA PROJECT
Runner up: Sam Rockwell, THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI

Best Supporting Actress
Laurie Metcalf, LADY BIRD
Runner-up: Allison Janney, I, TONYA

Best Ensemble
THE MEYEROWITZ STORIES (NEW AND SELECTED)
Runner-up: BPM

Best Screenplay
LADY BIRD
Runner up: GET OUT

Best Foreign Language Film
THE SQUARE
Runner-up: BPM

Best Documentary
DAWSON CITY: FROZEN TIME
Runner up: FACES PLACES

Best Animated Film
COCO
Runner up: LOVING VINCENT

Best New Filmmaker
Jordan Peele (GET OUT)

Best Cinematography
DUNKIRK
Runner-up: BLADE RUNNER 2049

Best Original Score
PHANTOM THREAD
Runners-up: DAWSON CITY: FROZEN TIME and THE SHAPE OF WATER

Best Editing
A GHOST STORY
Runner up: I, TONYA

SAN FRANCISCO FILM CRITICS CIRCLE

Best Picture
THE FLORIDA PROJECT

Best Director
Guillermo del Toro – THE SHAPE OF WATER

Best Actor
Andy Serkis – WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES

Best Actress
Margot Robbie – I, TONYA

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe – THE FLORIDA PROJECT

Best Supporting Actress
Laurie Metcalf – LADY BIRD

Best Foreign Language Film
BPM

Best Animated Feature
COCO

Best Documentary
FACES PLACES

Best Cinematography
BLADE RUNNER 2049 – Roger Deakins

Best Production Design
THE SHAPE OF WATER – Paul D. Austerberry

Best Editing
BABY DRIVER – Paul Machliss and Jonathan Amos

Best Screenplay (original)
GET OUT – Jordan Peele

Best Screenplay (adapted)
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME – James Ivory

Best Original Score
PHANTOM THREAD – Jonny Greenwood

Special Citation (for that underappreciated indie gem)
BRIMSTONE & GLORY

Best Actor
Andy Serkis – WAR FOR THE PLANET OF THE APES

This meme will never die, huh.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/dec/10/the-square-triumphs-with-six-prizes-at-european-film-awards-berlin

EUROPEAN FILM
The Square, dir: Ruben Ostlund

EUROPEAN DISCOVERY – PRIX FIPRESCI
Lady Macbeth, dir: William Oldroyd

EUROPEAN COMEDY
The Square, dir: Ruben Ostlund

EUROPEAN ACTRESS
Alexandra Borbely, On Body And Soul

EUROPEAN ACTOR
Claes Bang, The Square

EUROPEAN DOCUMENTARY
Communion, dir: Anna Zamecka

EUROPEAN DIRECTOR
Ruben Ostlund, The Square

EUROPEAN SCREENWRITER
Ruben Ostlund, The Square

EUROPEAN ANIMATED FEATURE
Loving Vincent, dirs: Dorota Kobiela & Hugh Welchman

EUROPEAN SHORT FILM
Timecode, dir: Juanjo Gimenez

PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED
EUROPEAN CINEMATOGRAPHER
Michail Krichman, Loveless

EUROPEAN COMPOSER
Evgueni & Sacha Galperine, Loveless

EUROPEAN EDITOR
Robin Campillo, BPM

EUROPEAN PRODUCTION DESIGNER
Josefin Åsberg, The Square

EUROPEAN COSTUME DESIGNER
Katarzyna Lewińska, Spoor

EUROPEAN HAIR & MAKE-UP ARTIST
Leendert van Nimwegen, Brimstone

EUROPEAN SOUND DESIGNER
Oriol Tarragó, A Monster Calls

EUROPEAN CO-PRODUCTION AWARD
Cedomir Kolar

EUROPEAN ACHIEVEMENT IN WORLD CINEMA
Julie Delpy

EFA LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
Aleksandr Sokurov

EFA PEOPLE’S CHOICE AWARD
Stefan Zweig – Farewell To Europe, dir: Maria Schrader

wtf @ Serkis for actor

if I had one of these things to vote in I'd give it to Vince Vaughn just for fun

EUROPEAN ACTOR
Claes Bang, The Square

My drag name.

Best Supporting Actor
Willem Dafoe – THE FLORIDA PROJECT

Best Supporting Actress
Laurie Metcalf – LADY BIRD

I suppose we have to get used to this.