This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

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— Merry Carolmas (@CGRunyon) November 19, 2017

has anyone here caught the Ramsay?

US opening is April

was I alone in being kinda nonplussed by Mudbound

there've been a number of meh reviews

Actual article posted now. Leak was accurate:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/best-films-2017/

Annual Erhlich Vid

https://vimeo.com/245670075

Cahiers du Cinema

1. Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch)
2. Jeannette: The Childhood of Joan of Arc (Bruno Dumont)
3. Certain Women (Kelly Reichardt)
4. Get Out (Jordan Peele)
5. The Day After (Hong Sang-soo)
6. Lover For a Day (Philippe Garrel)
7. Good Time (Josh and Benny Safdie)
8. Split (M. Night Shyamalan)
9. Jackie (Pablo Larraín)
10. Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk (Ang Lee)

I wondering, is The Square's absence from the Sight and Sound list because the critics didn't like it or because it hasn't been widely enough seen?

The former, surely, since you have Zama/ Western/Faces Places at 4,5 and 6.

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Simon H: I'm amazed at the Mudbound hype too. Solid but not spectacular in any way, and had a couple really poor sequences. The cockpit scene should have just been edited out if they didn't have the budget - it took me right out of the film. Given the subject matter and the buzz, I expected more of an emotional kick.

Maybe the sound team should get a nomination though because lord did I grimace at the sound of the leg re-break. Ugh.

The Square hasn't yet been released in the UK, which might partly account for its absence from the S&S poll in particular. But it also isn't very good.

The editor wrote in Sight & Sound that they'd actively encouraged those polled this year to vote for any moving pictures, not just cinema, so I guess that boosted Twin Peaks.

Lol at Cahiers stanning for Split. Is it because he's an auteur?

Only one person in the printed edition gave Detroit a vote (haven't checked the online-only ballots). What a huge fall from grace. I thought it was terrific.

& that Ang Lee film.

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

people need to grow the fuck up

"Movie or TV?" issue came up when I tried to put Eastbound & Down on my 2009 Village Voice poll. Then and now I cite The Hoberman Rule. pic.twitter.com/a8nCamZvPi

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) December 5, 2017

When I see an Oliver Stone film that's not JFK on a list, I remember the Lord Sotosyn Rule.

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Marginally better than Split, but I can at least understand people hyping up Portman's overacting. I could have sworn that was a 2016 release anyway.

let's just leave release dates alone bcuz they always vary! no one seems to realize that New York is what counts

no one has had the opportunity to see the entirety of TP Season 3 in a cinemaaah, hence it doesn't qualify, case closed.

also J Hoberman loves Dogville and hates Abbott & Costello so fuck him forever

Not going to link the Broadcast Film Critics Awards nominations, because some things are even too shameful for the detrius thread.

Suffice it to say, they're betting the farm on The Shape of Water being the big Oscar winner this year. Because that's their entire reason for being.

NYT crix weigh in: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/06/movies/best-movies.html

I haven't seen it but I just can't imagine the fishfucking movie catching on in that way.

ugh at Warlocaust of the Apes making one of those lists

desperately hoping Dunkirk makes it into Reverse Shot's "Offenses" list this year

I expect many of my favorites on that list tbh.

Dunkirk is definitely making that list. And the whole thing is going to be about how clearly Nolan made it to celebrate Brexit.

The Killing of a Sacred Deer and, I'm reasonably certain, Lady Bird will also end up getting cited there.

I'm prepared for sea level rise to have done with Florida if it prevents directors from making odes about us.

A compromise I trust many could live with.

Also, if Three Billboards DOESN'T end up on the Reverse Shot "offenses" list, then the entire proposition is bankrupt.

x-post: Especially now that Sean Baker has made the perfect one anyway.

Critic's Choice have given Molly's Game two nominations. Who are these people? I want a documentary or research study on these schmucks.

x-post: Especially now that Sean Baker has made the perfect one anyway.

― Frederik B, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

why are you always like this?

Um, cover of the year anyone? pic.twitter.com/l279InPFHI

— Nigel M. Smith (@nigelmfs) December 6, 2017

much prefer Sacred Deer's offenses to Sean Baker's

Catholic bishops will walk out of TFP pro-abortion

http://www.clickhole.com/article/huge-mix-christopher-nolan-accidentally-submitted--7027

AMERICAN FILM INSTITUTE ANNOUNCES
AFI AWARDS 2017 OFFICIAL SELECTIONS

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, December 7, 2017, LOS ANGELES, CA — The American Film Institute (AFI) announced today the Official Selections of AFI AWARDS 2017, celebrating the year's most outstanding achievements in the art of the moving image — with 10 films and 10 television programs deemed culturally and artistically significant.

In addition to the 20 honorees, AFI also recognizes THE VIETNAM WAR with an AFI Special Award.

AFI AWARDS is a coveted honor for its noncompetitive celebration of collaboration. Honorees are selected based on works that advance the art of the moving image, enhance the rich cultural heritage of America's art form, inspire audiences and artists alike and make a mark on American society.

"At a time when the world seems defined by division, storytellers bring us together as one," said Bob Gazzale, AFI President and CEO. "AFI AWARDS is honored to celebrate this community of artists who challenge and inspire us, entertain and enlighten us — ultimately reminding us of our common heartbeat."

AFI MOVIES OF THE YEAR

THE BIG SICK
CALL ME BY YOUR NAME
DUNKIRK
THE FLORIDA PROJECT
GET OUT
LADY BIRD
THE POST
THE SHAPE OF WATER
THREE BILLBOARDS OUTSIDE EBBING, MISSOURI
WONDER WOMAN

aside from Wonder Woman, i think we have an ossified top layer now.

The Big Sick is eminently forgettable. I don't get the acclaim.

I enjoyed it until the concluding half-hour of house-cleaning.

I think The Big Sick falls outside that top layer now and Three Billboards is cuspy thx to its politics. Otherwise, yeah, that's the slate from here on out in a nutshell.

Usually I let Morbs do the honors, but since I myself haven't seen Slant's #1 movie this year: https://www.slantmagazine.com/features/article/the-25-best-films-of-2017

And the ballots: https://www.slantmagazine.com/house/article/slants-top-25-films-of-2017/

Eric! The Ornithologist!

oh yeah!

I thought Nocturama a letdown after its first hour, and other than Pattinson's reliably solid performance and the editing Good Time escapes me too.

I thought you were a letdown after your first hour.