The Beatles

Smells like ass in here

There, beat that low

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There's a short recording of "Help!" with Lennon fooling around on the piano (I think it's from 1970 or something).
The problem is it's a total mess (chords, words, you name it !).

https://www.popsike.com/pix/20131014/390679120555.jpg

One thing about Help! that's always got me thinking is that they included 'Act Naturally' as a replacement for 'If You've Got Trouble', but they had 'Wait' around at the time which would have been a better choice. While not one of their finest, it's a lot better than Harrison's songs on Help! and stuff like 'Tell Me What You See' ... I'm curious as to why they initially shelved it, and even more curious to know what led to it appearing on Rubber Soul - they didn't really ressurrect aborted stuff like that often.

The contrast on A Hard Day’s Night between John’s lewd, modulating melody and Paul’s keening bridge that keeps climbing and building tension is one of my favourite early Beatles moments.

For covers, this one’s great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1YKfu5sD24

Well, "I Need You" is a minor Beatles work but it might be my favourite Harrison song.
That said I'm not a big fan of his stuff in the Beatles. All Things Must Pass is great though and is all I need to hear from him.

Ah I remenber an alt. version of "A Hard Day's Night" (no idea where it came from) which was basically the same but a bit slower and with a fat bass and less "clean" vocals (actually, one of the things I prefer in their post 65 stuff is that the production on the vocals is less "clean", with more effects etc).
it was great !

Haven't we learned by now that there's no low Turrican can't manage to squirm under.

I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.

i thought this revive wd be about the touring doc that just was on PBS

Don't know what you're talking about - me and AlXTC from Paris are having a discussion about the early Beatles and others are attempting to derail the thread because they don't like an album being called by its actual title. Funnily enough, these people are doing the exact same thing they (wrongly) got all huffy about on other threads. ILM logic in action right there.

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Grow up ffs.

I like "Wait" for the line ".. and I've been good, as good as I can be.." which means not very good at all.

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I like the volume swells/"violining" effect on the guitar - I know this also appears on Harrison's 'I Need You', but it seems to work better on 'Wait' ...

this one deserves posting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5yMKIlwTd0

jeff beck covered "she's a woman" on blow by blow

you've gotta put Jimi Hendrix's live cover of "sgt peppers" on there, rushomancy

"Act Naturally" is one of my favorite Beatle covers. Love the guitar on it, great backing vocals by PM, and it's just a really good song.

I utterly despise every single thing about it. Loathe it.

Buck Owens rules.

yup

what is turrican calling the beatles' drummer "ringo" for, his name is richard starkey. it actually says so on his birth certificate. you can call him ringo if you want, but you'd be wrong. it's the actual name vs. the mythology.

all experience sensed and thus dated, which means nothing is dated.

I think the point about the word is that it's always used as a pejorative, but buying into that implies buying into the idea that sounds or styles are placed irrevocably in time. That music moves ahead in a linear manner.

For me, "Help" is so special now precisely because it does seem to have a lost art quality to it. And I think that is in what some here and elsewhere refer to as the contradiction between its energy and its theme. I don't believe there's any contradiction there. I've never interpreted "Help" as being "upbeat." How can you?

Is "Like a Rolling Stone" "upbeat?"

Kind of like the Nilsson track, this another one everyone should be familiar with:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_smoNNCFbY

Please everybody if we haven't done what we could have done we've tried... this was the b-side...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_smoNNCFbY

... no it isn't, here it is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-xxXN9qAQI

you've gotta put Jimi Hendrix's live cover of "sgt peppers" on there, rushomancy

― brimstead

it's got spunk, but i'm not sure i rate it any higher than, say, tomorrow's version of "strawberry fields forever".

having said that i do like the "christmas on earth continued" version a lot more than the "stages" version i was familiar with, i'll tentatively slot that one in!

Tomorrow's "Strawberry Fields Forever" is outstanding.

Hm, can’t remember hearing that one.

That whole album is really good. Cool band.

That album is great but the cover is the lamest thing on it!

Suggest other thread for bands not the beatles

Caetano Veloso made some pretty good covers on his Joia and Qualquer Coisa albums, of Help, Elanor Rigby, For No One and Lady Madonna. As a bonus, if you haven't heard it, Joia is one of the greatest albums ever, period.

Ah, it was in the RS 70 interview that Lennon talked about "Help!" :

"I don't like the recording too much; we did it too fast trying to be commercial... I might do I Want To Hold Your Hand and Help! again, because I like them and I can sing them."

LOL @ "trying to be commercial", you were in The Beatles for fucks sake!

Charlotte Dada's "Don't Let Me Down" (1971, Ghana) is about as good as Beatles covers get:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7-JrLuAaFY

the eternal battle: charlotte dada's version of "don't let me down", or marcia griffiths' version? i'm on team griffiths, but they're both great.

since that link to the other thread from 2005 showed up i've been making serious progress on my list. the 2005 poster had some great shit going on - i filled up half my gaps on "with the beatles" with his suggestions - but there are resources out there now that there just weren't back in '05. there are covers of "glass onion" besides arif mardin's! shitty jazz covers are the bane of anybody looking for beatles interpretations. the secret weapon? power pop, obviously. absolutely killer live track of "old brown shoe" by the laughing dogs... _nobody_ does old brown shoe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8CU2Oc7a3c&feature=youtu.be

i'm still arguing with myself over whether to use the bats' "tell me why". on the one hand it's great, but on the other hand it sounds a _lot_ like the "duck tales" theme...

crap, youtube link fail. whatever, you should be able to google it (and it's worth finding).

I'd suggest Colin Newman's version of 'Blue Jay Way', that's another song that nobody does and I believe that's why he did it.

Colin Newman's early 80s solo work has a lot of tracks that have, now that you've made the connection for me, the relaxed dread and haze of Blue Jay Way.

Though, thankfully, they're much better.

i'm not a big fan of "not to" - even the wire tracks on it i prefer in the dodgy live versions from "turns and strokes", etc. i went with a youtube cover by a baroque musician named daniel mantey. it's not as good as his take on "trans europe express", but i find that hurdy gurdy really brings out the droney quality of the original song.

Looks like June of '64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6r523MsuUk

^ This is pretty great. Surprised they haven't cashed in an properly released that. Love how loud Lennon's guitar is in the mix.

yeah great footage and sound, not overwhelmed by the screams

it's a bummer some of the footage doesn't match though! (like ringo invisibly rocking out on "she loves you" 5 minutes in)