This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

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i thought they were all good in it fwiw. the main guy was a good actor who was miscast imo.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 4 December 2017 02:52 (six years ago) link

xp i only knew that from googling. his accent seemed good from this side.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 4 December 2017 02:57 (six years ago) link

What's this Nixon performance y'all keep going on about?

Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 December 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Quiet_Passion

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link

US release last April

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link

it's on UK netflix now, not sure about north america.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:05 (six years ago) link

Beach Rats disappointed me too because her last film -- which nailed the rhythms of courtship -- impressed me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:16 (six years ago) link

It's the people who've watched A Quiet Passion that deserve an award.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Monday, 4 December 2017 03:59 (six years ago) link

What's this Nixon performance y'all keep going on about?

― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, December 3, 2017

If I've accomplished anything in this godforsaken place I like to think it's helping the public to see what a know-nothing little bastard Rubio is.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) December 2, 2017

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2017 11:49 (six years ago) link

A Quiet Passion was the best film of 2016, but only award eligible this year.

Frederik B, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:16 (six years ago) link

Oh I do love it when we talk release date eligibility.

Alba, Monday, 4 December 2017 12:17 (six years ago) link

yes, Frederik doesn't get enough chances to be a supercilious dick.

The only rhythm of courtship that interests me is "Let's screw."

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 12:48 (six years ago) link

then you should've loved Beach Rats.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2017 13:39 (six years ago) link

David Edelstein's Top 10:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-10-best-movies-of-2017.html

clemenza, Monday, 4 December 2017 18:15 (six years ago) link

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:19 (six years ago) link

I really wanted to like Valerian but it was awful

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link

Will watch this on my lunch break, but here's David Ehrlich's annual top 25 montage: https://vimeo.com/245670075

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:24 (six years ago) link

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

Rather, they welcome your hatred!

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:34 (six years ago) link

I watched _Girls Trip_ yesterday, Haddish is indeed infectious but man that movie sucks

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 18:35 (six years ago) link

I'd rather people see Girls Trip than Thor: Ragnarok.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:38 (six years ago) link

Nick Schager's list has the honor of being called "wackjobby" by that scumshit Jeff Wells:

http://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a52209/best-movies-of-2017/

Didn't know Tony Perkins' son Osgood had made a horror feature (#9).

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:39 (six years ago) link

Nick's list is the running one he updates ever month or two. That's where he stood at the beginning of November.

Didn't know Tony Perkins had a son!

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:40 (six years ago) link

oh how I hated Hounds of Love.

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link

The Lost City of Z and Marjorie Prime, yay. Dunkirk feh

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

yeah I think Z is the best thing I saw this year

Simon H., Monday, 4 December 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link

Tony Perkins had 2 sons with his wife Berry Berenson (sister of Marisa); she died on one of the 9/11 flights.

still think BPM is at the top of my list.

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link

Just submitted a list today and starting to feel pretty awful that I haven't been able to snag a viewing of Phantom Thread yet.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Monday, 4 December 2017 18:55 (six years ago) link

Sight & Sound poll results apparently leaked a bit early:

http://www.worldofreel.com/2017/12/get-out-tops-sight-sound-poll-as-film.html

1. Get Out, dir: Jordan Peele
2. Twin Peaks: The Return, dir: David Lynch
3. Call Me by Your Name, dir: Luca Guadagnino
4. Zama, dir: Lucrecia Martel
5. Western, dir: Valeska Grisebach
6. Faces Places, dir: Agnes Varda
7. Good Time, dirs: Ben and Josh Safdie
8. Loveless, dir: Andrey Zvyagintsev
9. Dunkirk, dir: Christopher Nolan
9. The Florida Project, dir: Sean Baker
11. A Ghost Story, dir: David Lowery
12. You Were Never Really Here, dir: Lynne Ramsay
12. BPM, dir: Robin Campillo
12. Lady Macbeth, dir: William Oldroyd
14. God’s Own Country, dir: Francis Lee
14. The Shape Of Water, dir: Guillermo del Toro
16. Let the Sunshine In, dir: Claire Denis
16. Mudbound, dir: Dee Rees
16. Strong Island, dir: Yance Ford
16. I Am Not Your Negro, dir: Raoul Peck
16. Personal Shopper, dir: Olivier Assayas

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 03:34 (six years ago) link

sigh, cultists

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 03:55 (six years ago) link

Lol, love the tie for ninth.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 11:25 (six years ago) link

Mad Max: Fury Road (George Miller, 2015) pic.twitter.com/hmxlT4YPhY

— Merry Carolmas (@CGRunyon) November 19, 2017

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:47 (six years ago) link

has anyone here caught the Ramsay?

Simon H., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 12:58 (six years ago) link

US opening is April

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:04 (six years ago) link

was I alone in being kinda nonplussed by Mudbound

Simon H., Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:09 (six years ago) link

there've been a number of meh reviews

ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 13:54 (six years ago) link

Actual article posted now. Leak was accurate:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/best-films-2017/

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Tuesday, 5 December 2017 16:04 (six years ago) link

Annual Erhlich Vid

https://vimeo.com/245670075

Gukbe, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 05:18 (six years ago) link

Cahiers du Cinema

1. Twin Peaks: The Return (David Lynch)
2. Jeannette: The Childhood of Joan of Arc (Bruno Dumont)
3. Certain Women (Kelly Reichardt)
4. Get Out (Jordan Peele)
5. The Day After (Hong Sang-soo)
6. Lover For a Day (Philippe Garrel)
7. Good Time (Josh and Benny Safdie)
8. Split (M. Night Shyamalan)
9. Jackie (Pablo Larraín)
10. Billy Lynn’s Long Halftime Walk (Ang Lee)

Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 05:55 (six years ago) link

I wondering, is The Square's absence from the Sight and Sound list because the critics didn't like it or because it hasn't been widely enough seen?

Dan S, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 06:14 (six years ago) link

The former, surely, since you have Zama/ Western/Faces Places at 4,5 and 6.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 10:44 (six years ago) link

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

Number None, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:03 (six years ago) link

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Simon H: I'm amazed at the Mudbound hype too. Solid but not spectacular in any way, and had a couple really poor sequences. The cockpit scene should have just been edited out if they didn't have the budget - it took me right out of the film. Given the subject matter and the buzz, I expected more of an emotional kick.

Maybe the sound team should get a nomination though because lord did I grimace at the sound of the leg re-break. Ugh.

finlay (fionnland), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:04 (six years ago) link

The Square hasn't yet been released in the UK, which might partly account for its absence from the S&S poll in particular. But it also isn't very good.

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:05 (six years ago) link

The editor wrote in Sight & Sound that they'd actively encouraged those polled this year to vote for any moving pictures, not just cinema, so I guess that boosted Twin Peaks.

Lol at Cahiers stanning for Split. Is it because he's an auteur?

Alba, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:30 (six years ago) link

Only one person in the printed edition gave Detroit a vote (haven't checked the online-only ballots). What a huge fall from grace. I thought it was terrific.

Alba, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:33 (six years ago) link

& that Ang Lee film.

Susan Stranglehands (jed_), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:38 (six years ago) link

I guess people are pissed about Twin Peaks turning up on these lists

people need to grow the fuck up

"Movie or TV?" issue came up when I tried to put Eastbound & Down on my 2009 Village Voice poll. Then and now I cite The Hoberman Rule. pic.twitter.com/a8nCamZvPi

— BANDZ STACKHAGE (@NickPinkerton) December 5, 2017

Simon H., Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:18 (six years ago) link

When I see an Oliver Stone film that's not JFK on a list, I remember the Lord Sotosyn Rule.

morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:24 (six years ago) link

Cahiers du Cinema: Split? A little confused, real sore thumb in that list.

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Fred Klinkenberg (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:42 (six years ago) link

Try the one right below that one on the list.

Marginally better than Split, but I can at least understand people hyping up Portman's overacting. I could have sworn that was a 2016 release anyway.

finlay (fionnland), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 13:46 (six years ago) link


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