Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me - Classic or Dud [spoilers]

Yeah, Coop's mocking "You didn't love her anyway" really surprised me the last time I watched it

The callback to the bunnies in The Return was so brilliant. Like, the way the show pauses to make you consider, does this mean something? Then quickly dismisses the idea.

then unexpectedly comes back to them in the end, in an oblique and quite creepy way

i forgot bobby killed a guy. that's a lot of stuff between that and s03 bobby.

Bobby killed a guy is one of the bits that comes back in s3!

Although we prob shouldn't post spoilers itt, sorry

Wasn't the guy Bobby killed pulling a gun on him? I'd call that more self-defense by Bobby than murder

i love that whole scene, where bobby is just so fucked up over having shot a guy, and laura can't stop laughing

really enriches bobby's scene with jacoby in the first season

do those of you who’ve seen the missing pieces watch it for pleasure or is it mostly valuable for context? Do you rewatch it? still dithering on getting the CC of FWWM, which I already have on dvd and rarely watch

i don't really ever watch it on its own, just after fwwm, but in that case yes i've watched it for pleasure several times

two by four!

I love it and have rewatched it but I've also watched fwwm more times than is perhaps healthy so I should maybe recuse myself

But cmon you need that fight scene in your life

I’m going to assume you’re talking about a fight with two by fours and that Pete’s “two by fours, four by eights. Two by fours, four by eights” in the pilot is him inventorying his arsenal

The stairs/fan scene should have been in the film.

Yeah, that and the scene at the Hayward place are the two that really feel like "missing pieces" insofar as they feel like they belong to the other film. Maybe the palmer dinner scene too as it provides a contrast to the later (wash your hands) scene

yeah i love the happy palmers. makes everything much sadder. would've probably felt excessive in the film itself though

i love that whole scene, where bobby is just so fucked up over having shot a guy, and laura can't stop laughing

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:54 (two days ago) Permalink

really enriches bobby's scene with jacoby in the first season

― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Saturday, 2 December 2017 17:55 (two days ago) Permalink

idk why, but having to piece together an explanation from events witnessed out of chronological sequence seems to add to the emotional richness

any reports from the boxset people? i'm a jerk and a half but if the BTS stuff is good (and why wouldn't it be, since built to spill were once capable of transcendence on a good night, although i've also seen them on a night where i almost fell asleep - indie dad joke) i definitely want to track down the good bits on this here internet

They played a great set at the Road House

i feel like Twin Peaks would be a MAJOR market for Built to Spill

RIP Pamela Gidley (Teresa Banks). Small role, but she gave a really striking performance

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/pamela-gidley-dies-twin-peaks-141938829.html

glad to see a lot of places picking the news up, she was a very good actor and an equally decent person.

Watched this for I guess the 3rd time tonight, this time with my kids — we just finished the first two seasons (skipping most of the back half of season 2, except for the final episode). There were points in the movie where I wondered if it was too much for them, they're 16 and 12, but they're pretty invested in seeing the whole Twin Peaks universe. They were definitely scared and upset by stuff in the movie that is scary and upsetting, but they were also just kind of mesmerized by the whole thing. It is a trip. Really the darkest single thing he's ever done.

Also, I knew its reputation had improved over the years, but it's pretty striking to look at Metacritic — reviews range from 100 to 0, in an almost perfect reverse chronological order. https://www.metacritic.com/movie/twin-peaks-fire-walk-with-me/critic-reviews

I really want to watch TP with my kid, but she’s 11 and it is not yet time. Maddy’s death would be Too Much. Maybe another year or two. It will be a while before she can handle FWWM though. I saw it totally alone in a theater when I was 16 and it stunned me.

Every time I see it I like it more and i’m glad its reputation has turned around. Is it Lynch’s scariest movie? The evil in it feels real in a way that he usually doesn’t manage or try for.

It's pretty scary! And in really visceral and upsetting ways. My kids like horror movies and have seen Halloween, Friday the 13th, The Thing, Scream. But none of those feel like FWWM, the conventions of the genres and the stories give more distance. FWWM forces you to feel Laura's desperation and horror, it doesn't give you much distance.

A dad rapes and kills his daughter, the main character of the show/movie--it's definitely the darkest thing he's done. Cow OTM about the evil being "real" in a way that Inland Empire or even Mulholland Drive isn't.

R.I.P. Jacques Renault. I hope they put "I am as blank as a fart" on his headstone.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2021/04/07/walter-olkewicz-dies-twin-peaks-actor-starred-jacques-renault/7133539002/

Watching this for the first time since seeing The Return three times, which kinda reset my brain on how to understand time and suchlike. Harry Dean Stanton is surely a different character? They both run (different) trailer parks but are very different in personality. Dammit I had other more important thoughts I forget, something about seperating the young Lynch kid (Tremond? grandchild or something) from the Jumping Man, but what I've mainly learnt these years is to not concentrate on any sort of plot, it's all thematically and visually connected, I suppose that big spurious blog you were all praising might agree but fuck all nonsense except Lynch nonsense. If he draws 6 from his jar tomorrow I think the universe will have aligned

I'd never heard this song til the other day and didn't know that what I thought of as just an oddball Twin Peaks line — immortalized by Laura's "gobble gobble" — was a reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2yd3DRhAI0

Which in turn comes from this: http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5758/