Guess: The chart position that the new Morrissey album "Low in High School" debuts at.

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I seem to remember him going especially into apoplectic rage over Röhm's homosexuality and any other Nazi gays, repeatedly.

calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 19:46 (six years ago) link

This album has grown on me. Even "Spent the Day in Bed" is alright to me now, it's really just the lyrics I don't care for. I think "Home Is a Question Mark" is a winner. It might be his worst LP, but there's some good stuff in there.

His new fixation on Israel is something. I'm guessing he played some shows there and liked the way he was received, so naturally he's got a song called "Israel" now, with lyrics like "they who reign abuse upon you / they are jealous of you as well". That was pretty much what I was afraid of when I saw the song title.

JRN, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:06 (six years ago) link

Readers of this thread may also be interested to know that at the show in DC last night, he touted this album's #1 placement on the US and UK vinyl charts, while also saying that it went to #10 on the "US... other charts" (actually #20 on the Billboard 200, but #3 on the rock album chart, I've just learned).

JRN, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:11 (six years ago) link

calz absolutely correct about Shirer -/I've.remembered his name now!

Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:20 (six years ago) link

wondering now if this dimension of the shirer book (pub.1960) was what was responsible for the rash of films in the early 70s stressing the sexual decadence of the third reich (the damned, the night porter etc), which mostly starred dirk bogarde and were lapped up by some of the punky foax SPM admired when young (punky foax often cheekily pro the queer-cult elements the film-makers were a lot more ambivalent abt)

mark s, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:29 (six years ago) link

Could well be the case, because there wasn't a lot of competition for Shirer's book, and as turgid as it is - it was still probably the most comprehensive guide to the Nazis going right into the 70's, unless I've missed something.

calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:38 (six years ago) link

yes, that's what i remember from the early 70s: grown-ups reading it and talking about it bcz it covered a lot of ground (not just sex) that was basically new to the general reading public

mark s, Friday, 1 December 2017 20:45 (six years ago) link

I think it's v readable! it's just bollocks is all

Illegal Ethiopian Dance Music (Noodle Vague), Friday, 1 December 2017 20:55 (six years ago) link

I read about a quarter of it and then audio-booked the rest and it is entertaining bollox. But to some extent all Hitler books are bollox and often over-reliant on Goebbels horrible diaries or like Shirer writing works of fiction really, which I think even Kershaw is guilty of to some extent. They just haven't got that nebulous Soviet archive that Stalin biographers have, which are so fucking massive they overwhelm some people.

*lol just spellchecked + Goebbels horrible Dairies almost submitted.

calzino, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:19 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

This week (or next), Moz dreams of number five....

Mark G, Thursday, 9 May 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link


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