Beer in the new era

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bevmo has dozens of bourbon county stouts

might pick one up

infinity (∞), Friday, 1 December 2017 17:09 (six years ago) link

Had a Goose Island flight (w/BCS) last night, followed by an 8 oz pour. I think I like Founders Backwoods Bastard more.

nickn, Friday, 1 December 2017 17:51 (six years ago) link

my sis came to visit recently for 10 days and we managed to hit 16 breweries, San Diego and AZ. Favorite of the San Diego ones was prob AleSmith. Liked the feel of the place (warehouse-y is always better than "shhh we're actually a restaurant that brews beers, so ha good luck finding a table or spot at the bar if you just came to drink" places), the beers I tried ranged from good to all-time top 5...and it was taco tuesday so there was a taco truck parked by the outdoor patio serving some of the best tacos I've ever had.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link

AleSmith is good. I've never been to the brewery, though.

xp I will attempt to overpay for CBS today, but I fear that I'll run into the same problem of "this is great, but backwoods is cheaper and better."

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 December 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link

if you're in Los Angeles, on the east side specifically, 365 has a ton of bottles of BCS, the Northwoods Stout, and the barleywine (10.99, 22.99, and 13.99 respectively.)

omar little, Friday, 1 December 2017 21:54 (six years ago) link

got two 750 ml of CBS at 25 a piece. one is a christmas present, at least :-/

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 1 December 2017 22:07 (six years ago) link

Per 12 oz bottle, omar? I've been buying the backwoods for 14.99 for a 4-pack at WF, so I'll just stick with that.

nickn, Friday, 1 December 2017 23:32 (six years ago) link

All BCBS is in 16.9 oz bottles.

Jeff, Friday, 1 December 2017 23:43 (six years ago) link

i had a sapporo black the other night, i enjoyed it very very much.

brimstead, Saturday, 2 December 2017 01:19 (six years ago) link

#polaris

calstars, Saturday, 2 December 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link

That piece of marketing ingenuity just blew my friggin mind

Holy mother of god

infinity (∞), Saturday, 2 December 2017 04:29 (six years ago) link

Our 2018 availability calendar is a doozy so we're going to share the big changes with you over the next week. First up, Breakfast Stout and Backwoods Bastard will be year-round! More here: https://t.co/0o7G4yZmpl pic.twitter.com/ssJKG7XaiY

— Founders Brewing Co. (@foundersbrewing) December 4, 2017

I want to change my display name (dan m), Monday, 4 December 2017 16:11 (six years ago) link

Makes sense, almost feels like they are anyway, they sit on the shelves quite a bit now.

Jeff, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:01 (six years ago) link

Drank too much good beer yesterday. All kinds of Half Acre Big Hugs variants, bunch of stuff from Side Project, several pours of Vanilla Abraxas. Nightcap of bourbon county.

Jeff, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:02 (six years ago) link

mikkeler blueberry berliner weisse: A+

New Jersey (treeship 2), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:04 (six years ago) link

Hey mister new jersey, where are you getting your mikkeler? upstate NY or the city? They don't distribute to NJ anymore.

Evan, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:05 (six years ago) link

treezy my man

you went to mikkeller? glad you liked it

infinity (∞), Monday, 4 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

(I know your name here isn't "new jersey" btw, I was just referencing that in case you implied you got mikkeler somewhere here in NJ where I believe you also reside?)

Evan, Monday, 4 December 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

Don't think I've mentioned before my appreciation for the Founders All-Day Session IPA - packs a lot of flavor into a light-bodied, refreshing beer.

o. nate, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

I had this incredible beer last night. It was translucent but called a porter. Hint of vanilla. Googling rn but I can’t find it. #tearsinrain

treeship 2, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 01:20 (six years ago) link

Ok- never mind I guess!

Anyway, favorite beer right now is Head High from Kane brewery in NJ.

Evan, Tuesday, 5 December 2017 05:28 (six years ago) link

So someone bought $700 worth of canadian breakfast stouts at whole foods

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 02:15 (six years ago) link

That's like 4+ cases at Costco...
https://i.imgur.com/7h03mtQ.jpg

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 02:59 (six years ago) link

lol is cbs actually tradebait at this point in time?

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:00 (six years ago) link

Damn should have gone to costco

crocus bulbotuber (Sufjan Grafton), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:01 (six years ago) link

Probs tradebait

Cbs is sold out everywhere in los angeles

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:06 (six years ago) link

The whole foods fella gave me the bottle he was saving for himself

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:08 (six years ago) link

Found a bottle of CBS in Pasadena yesterday, at the WF. Wasn't even looking, was there for wine and wandered into the beer aisle as is my custom.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:25 (six years ago) link

Oh I guess I should be on the lookout

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:28 (six years ago) link

lol beer menus has all the places by me charging $40! Fuck that, I'm good

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 03:31 (six years ago) link

I don't think CBS will ever be as good as the bottle I had back in 2011. Back then, it was one of the best beers I've ever had. When I had it on draft a few years ago, just didn't hit me in the same way. I'll pick up my one bottle of this batch next week to find out.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:20 (six years ago) link

And after that, I'm done with big beer purchases for the year. November/December are rough on the wallet.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 11:23 (six years ago) link

I don't think CBS will ever be as good as the bottle I had back in 2011. Back then, it was one of the best beers I've ever had. When I had it on draft a few years ago, just didn't hit me in the same way. I'll pick up my one bottle of this batch next week to find out.

― Jeff, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 3:20 AM (five hours ago)

I had the opportunity to try 2014 CBS a couple years ago and I was equally non-plussed. And while this new batch is better... the reality is the needle has moved: 6 years ago KBS and CBS were some of the most highest rated (and hyped) beers on the planet. These days, this solid, fine beers sit on shelves in big box stores for weeks if not months.

Similar story: when I stopped by a store on Black Friday to pick up Bourbon County Variants (Coffee, NorthWoods) this year, the purveyor still had 2016 regular BCBS available. I asked him if he put them out specifically for black friday, he replied that he simply hadn't sold through his allocations from last year.

What a time to be alive?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:16 (six years ago) link

is it that beer nerdism peaked a couple years ago ?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:19 (six years ago) link

I miss the days when there was less beer hype, or at least it wasn't in my face all the time, and I could drop in somewhere and be offered something new on tap and it'd be really great and unexpected. Then I'd find out a few months later that beer nerds were traveling across the state to hoard bottles or whatever.

My local bar had a couple Toppling Goliath kegs before they started mass producing, might have been the last time that really happened.

mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:21 (six years ago) link

imo the nerdism is full bore now, it's just that everyone who likes beer is a casual beer nerd and there's just a lot of good beer

I'm also nostalgic for the days when there were only a couple brewery/restaurant places around, before every place had a "tap room" instead of having to be a restaurant too, and most of them were pretty mediocre to bad. I remember thinking Rock Bottom (lol) was the best beer/restaurant place, but that was a quick couple years

mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:24 (six years ago) link

im willing to bet that the guy who bought the entire cbs stock was doing it to resell

diff types of beers ("craft beers") are just way more widely marketed now with so many to choose from that the market for it has increased dramatically

people see an increase in demand and some try to game it to get extra cash (see scalpers)

i rarely see places that sell proper craft beers anymore. theyre mostly big name breweries, unless its something super local and these tend to be really bad to decent for the most part

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:34 (six years ago) link

yeah i think you're right there are just so many good beers out there and the disparity between a good beer and a really great beer is maybe not as wide as it used to be.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:35 (six years ago) link

in L.A. if i want to find something i haven't seen before i have to go to Southland Beer on Western or maybe (but less so these days) Sunset Beer.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:38 (six years ago) link

but it's true that a lot of those local craft brewers aren't particularly great

omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:39 (six years ago) link

i'm still a bit embarrassed that Golden Road is the brewer that seems to still be the Goose Island of L.A.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:40 (six years ago) link

ya sunset beer is getting worse every time i go there

also monkish in torrance is always soooo packed/overhyped its not even worth it anymore

zymurgy seems to be trying to do something different by allowing you to brew your own beer

wonder how thatll go

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:42 (six years ago) link

Then I'd find out a few months later that beer nerds were traveling across the state to hoard bottles or whatever.

― mh, Wednesday, December 6, 2017 9:21 AM (eighteen minutes ago)

Yo I was in Decorah last January lol. I met people from Honolulu, Costa Rica, Seoul and Denmark at that release.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:46 (six years ago) link

beer tourism

jfc gtfo

infinity (∞), Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:50 (six years ago) link

i once transported a twelve pack of Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald across the country after an Xmas drive back to Chitown.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 17:52 (six years ago) link

beer tourism is like the #1 thing the state of vermont has going on nowadays

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link

No way I’d want to go back to the way it was. Even with its drawbacks, I prefer today’s world.

Jeff, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link

re: cbs/bcbs fatigue imo it's a bunch of factors; those beers are def more at parity with others now than they were 5 years ago. also around here ppl care more and more about what is new and local, like without all day idk what kind of shelf presence founders would have and i don't know anyone who considers goose's regular rotation to be even credible. i think i've somewhat lost my taste for barrel aged stouts and i've talked to other people who feel similarly.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 18:52 (six years ago) link

the only beer tourism I appreciate is my friend from Dubuque crossing over the Wisconsin to bring me some New Glarus beer when I housesit over the holidays

mh, Wednesday, 6 December 2017 19:22 (six years ago) link


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