NOT FUNNY.

Re: Limmy I don't even feel hostile towards the guy, and admittedly I've only seen the odd sketch here and there, maybe his stuff has a cumulative effect I'm missing out on idk. It's just that all the clips of him I've seen seem like some laboured set-up for a feeble pay-off but that makes him no worse than, oh, pretty much all sketch comedy ever made.

I was interested to hear an Irish girl at work use 'lads' the other day (in an 'oh come on', eye-rolling context) directed at two female workmates.

I have explicitly noted this on more than one ilx occasion but if I may allow myself a very limited martyr moment there's many lads around the place determined to misunderstand or project to maximum reproval and always at the expense of increased cultural comprehension

xp, I think I may have noted in the past that my other half has, on at least one occasion, referred to her mother as ‘lads’ in the same situation.

Danny Baker ahahahahaha gosh you're whimsical you smug cunt

there's more that could be c+p'ed from wiki but this

Baker is a lifelong supporter of his local football club, Millwall.

is all you need to know really.

everything on 5 live is very bad.

sometimes you want to listen to a sports game

Baker makes Colin Murray seem like a passable attempt at a radio presenter tho, that's a tremendous achievement in the field of twattery

I used to like Tim Vickery and 606, but I find them unbearable these days. I've probably changed more than either of them have.

some days i end up listening to the World Service because it's less aggravating than whatever's on 4 or 5

some very good stuff on there, apart from when it gets too Trumpcentric.

What's wrong with millwall?

xp
The major danger of falling asleep with R4 on is waking up to Chris Grayling's voice. You don't get no trigger warning ffs.

What's wrong with millwall?

I grew up following Rangers, no offence but I wouldn't expect too much off this site.

It's almost as if it was......my fault, or something.

off = of

Frankie Boyle.

I presume he's on the box. He can make me laugh sometimes, but when he's bad he absolutely fucking reeks.

He's a joyless prick with no charisma and no comedic skills - he's a comedy writer not a performer.

I used to absolutely hate him for his attention seeking lol disablism type shittiness. But his short lived election/Scot-ref shows were at least not HIGNFY, and quite funny in places. I know, a very low bar, but I think I'm slowly going back to my original position, but that he's not much cop rather than hating him.

if a millwall fan started posting to ilx i would engage in good-natured top bantz with them

About right, yes.

I'd make up a cruel football chant to piss them off, based on the Your Relegation one.

We all know you're going down to live in Doncaster (Talkin 'bout your relegation gentrification)

Well it's the right thread for it.

fuck me that Leigh Francis is hilarious

wow.doxxed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRqa3tyeisM

The Festival looks like a new Inbetweeners movie in all but name

Just. everybody. die.

why hasn't Jonathan Pie been mentioned in this thread? Why hasn't he been mentioned in every post in this thread?

https://i.imgur.com/8SMeQpo.jpg

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My mind is trying to process the idea of Dara O'Briain, Frankie Boyle, and David Mitchell being considered "not funny" because they've become three of my favorite comedians ever. OTOH, I cannot second the "Bat Dad" mention strongly enough and every time one of my friends on FB repost that fucker it only makes me want to beat the shit out of him and his entire horrible family.

I'm really sad to find that "Family Ties", which was one of my favorite TV shows as a little girl, has aged terribly and isn't very watchable these days. OTOH I'm delighted to see how well "The Facts of Life" has aged and that my adoration of it as a kid was correct. I also find a lot of American stand-up comedians hacky and as diametrically opposite of funny as possible, e.g. the examples am0n posted on October 31, 2012; the first one is especially "LOL flyover country amirite?" hackneyed and tired.

The fly on Mike Pence’s head

it's still there?

It's here all week

Ba-dum-tsss!

actual lol

People keep sharing videos from something called Channel 4's The B@it and it every single one of them is the worst thing in the world, like a perpetual turtles-all-the-way-down festival of unfunny bullshit

viz: https://www.comedy.co.uk/videos/group/the_bait/
just scrolling down the list of video titles brings me to a special level of despair

Can’t decide about this:

Whimsical French woman, written by a man who's never met a woman. #LazySusan pic.twitter.com/FCFXnDhGQK

— BBC Comedy (@bbccomedy) July 30, 2019

Is it something to do with getting older that i feel like i haven't seen anything truly funny coming out of UK TV comedy in ten years?

That "French woman" sketch was okay... It didn't make me laugh but the idea was funny enough. Some of the jokes and observations were well written. But something about the execution made it feel clunky and kinda cringey. It plays on a pretty tired trope for a start, while not really doing anything original with it. As such it's more of an extended meme than a sketch.

And I think that's part of the problem: Comedy writers are now competing with meme artists for the lols, and the memes are winning. Memes can make an observation in an often surreal or oblique way and get it to land instantly. Memes also have an open-source anonymity to them, meaning you know they were made by SOMEONE but you don't know who, which is part of the fun - it feels like an in-joke despite having been shared thousands of times.

By comparison, TV sketches and satirical shows feel like lumbering dinosaurs roaring "The Channel 4 Corporate Board Has Written This Funny Sketch About A Man Who Identifies As Being 7-foot Tall Isn't It Funny Because That Is A Bit Like Trans People Which Is A Topic That Is In The News A Lot These Days HaHaHa".

At the same time, UK comedy still seems to be cribbing off older shows like Big Train, the Chris Morris shows, Armando Iannucci Show, Fast Show etc, but not doing it anywhere near as well. I can see the people behind B@it thinking of themselves as the edgy progeny of The Day Today and Brass Eye. But the anarchic nuance and flair of those shows has dissipated into tired lampooning of wokeness, kink-shaming, transphobia etc, with the thinnest veneer of surrealness or gross-out humour to cover for it.

But I couldn't really see Armando's "Hallo Hugh!" sketches being successfully turned into a meme, for example. The format of those sketches only really work on TV, and because they're so well executed, they land perfectly.

resoundingly otm

i watched the Amelia Gething show on iPlayer - why because she has an often very funny TikTok channel. very visual, very surreal. and the TV show is DREADFUL. i mean just beyond bad. and there are EIGHTEEN EPISODES. it’s just wild to me.

As for satire on TV, what a lot of writers who think they're the next Chris Morris forget is that TDT and Brass Eye rarely attacked cultural figures, politicians or specific news topics of the day, save for things like "Feel my nose and put my specs there roars drunken Major".
Chris Morris lampooned the medium of the media itself. By amplifying the sensationalism, the overbearing audiovisual bombast, and the ridiculousness of the presenters and correspondents, he was making fun of the news itself, as opposed to what was in the news. That's what makes those shows rare in that they're satirical pieces which remain funny today. You don't really need to know what was happening in the news in 1994 to get the jokes.
Compare this to stuff like The Mash Report or Jonathan Pie, and there's no comparison. These are the Oasis's to Chris Morris's Beatles in that they're copying ideas wholesale ("I know, let's shout the word 'FUCKMUFFIN', people love that"), without really pausing to think WHY those ideas were good in the first place.

There must be something going on at UK TV headquarters, cos it's not as though funny, talented people don't exist.
I'd not heard of Amelia Gething before, but the fact her TV programme doesn't work as well as her TikTok either means her humour isn't meant for TV (I doubt this), or her humour has been retconned to fuck by external committee.

Also, budgets for comedy must be extremely low these days. Everything looks like an old Children's ITV show. Cheap-looking props, sets, special FX through-and-through. Instead of giving these shows an edgy Young Ones-style DIY feel, it just feels insincere. Those B@it sketches are supposed to look like real news reports in order to get people sharing them, but you can tell from just looking at them that they're sketches.

Is it something to do with getting older that i feel like i haven't seen anything truly funny coming out of UK TV comedy in ten years?

Was thinking the very same when I saw this thread bumped. I don't think I find any of the innumerable comedians who infest every square inch of UK TV these days funny or engaging.

yep. panel shows are especially repulsive to me. i'm sure a lot of these comics are talented and put a lot of time into their craft. but these shows have the affect of razing everything into a middle-ground. i don't want to listen to these personality-free chumps trying to be funny in front of each other. it's cheap celeb-driven telly. easy to make, easy to put out, easy to watch, but in no-way nourishing or particularly funny or original

resoundingly otm

Perhaps cheap to put her in this discussion since I May Destroy You is kind of a different thing, but Michaela Coel's Chewing Gum series is from the past ten years and very good.

I think a big problem tho is stand-up comedians, who are good at that, getting crammed into sitcoms or sketch shows, which are different things. Love Sarah Kendall but her show was terrible. Love James Acaster but the one episode he guested on for Josh Widdicombe's sitcom (nb I don't rate that guy as a stand up either) was horrible.

Re: panel shows, I always have to mention that these are far worse in every other European country whose tv I've been acquainted with. Like House of Games level lineups on prime time.