This is the thread where we discuss matters pertaining to the detrius that accompanies the "End of the Year in Cinema" -- 2017

This doesn't really fit here (although it must one of the best short films of the year) I'm posting it because I want Alfred and Eric to watch it and tell me what they think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54fea7wuV6s

It has enough muscles to qualify for my best-of list.

Waters' commentary now up: https://www.artforum.com/inprint/issue=201710&id=72432

My faves:

5 WONDERSTRUCK (Todd Haynes) Want an IQ test for your cinephile children? Just take them to see this beautifully made, feel-good kids’ movie about the hearing-impaired, starring a little girl who looks exactly like Simone Signoret. If your small-fry like the film, they’re smart. If they don’t, they’re stupid.

10 TOM OF FINLAND (Dome Karukoski) This dirty but dignified, oddly commercial biopic of the artist who inspired the modern-day s/m gay leather scene is now the Finnish government’s official entry in the 2017 foreign-film Oscar race. That’s what I call patriotic penis progress, and I hope it wins.

http://yearendlists.com/category/2017-movies/

well I did see his #1, 2 and 5

J. Hoberman: Artforum Top Ten, 2017 pic.twitter.com/mh88i7jXgw

— Jordan Cronk (@JordanCronk) December 2, 2017

I loved The Holy Girl and The Headless Woman, looking forward to see Zama!

*seeing

what was the staff letter of October 26. 2017?

I need to get a subscription to Artforum

John Waters says in that piece that Woody Allen has never made a bad film, so he should be careful about calling others stupid.

Zama is alright, no Headless Woman imho.

Lol at the Emihholz. He premiered four films at Berlin and I kinda gave up on it all... I do like his architecture films, though.

LA critics now voting. Not feeling as generous about their results so I'll just link to their twitter: https://twitter.com/lafilmcritics

link to the mimosa drinking

Best Cinematography, Winner: Dan Laustsen, THE SHAPE OF WATER

Best Cinematography, Runner-Up: Roger Deakins, BLADE RUNNER 2049

Best Music/Score, Winner: Jonny Greenwood, PHANTOM THREAD

— LA Film Critics (@LAFilmCritics) December 3, 2017

(WIth The Shape of Water as the runner up.)

Another win for Willem!

Assuming Nat'l Society also signs off, that's a sweep.

Dunkirk wins for editing, which should probably be a no-brainer like Dafoe and Nixon.

Chalamet also gets another award. (They went Hawkins for actress instead because, damn, they have a chub for that Del Toro flick.)

But somehow managed to avoid giving it best picture (CMBYN) or best picture runner-up (Florida Project). Whew, I guess?

FP snubbed :(

Also, I was going to see CMBYN today, but then it turned out I looked at the program the wrong way, and it's next month. So fuck that film.

Dan S.:

http://www.artforum.com/news/id=71957

It's frustrating how Cynthia Nixon isn't "in the conversation" at all.

mayyyybe the conversation is of little actual worth?

well, yeah

did we ever get runners-up/postmortem on NYFCC?

I just watched Beach Rats and thought it was gross, the denouement is so gratuitously depressing that I felt like I wanted to have a talk with Hittman and ask her why, exactly, she made this - were the stakes so high? Because it didn't feel like they were so that it would turn out that way. Aside from that it was not believable that that guy would have been hanging out with those other three for a start and certainly not believable that he'd rope those chumps into a violent act for the sake of a bag of weed.

she got some grief for appropriating some of the details of the death of a black gay man in NYC a few decades ago.

actually the four boys seemed like a plausible crew to me.

I'm surprised at that. they seemed like three guys that had somehow started hanging out with an art school bro since that look is what most of the art school boys in Glasgow seem to be striving for.

he just seemed more model-beautiful than the other mooks (who were "street cast"). You know the lead actor is a Brit, right?

i thought they were all good in it fwiw. the main guy was a good actor who was miscast imo.

xp i only knew that from googling. his accent seemed good from this side.

What's this Nixon performance y'all keep going on about?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Quiet_Passion

US release last April

it's on UK netflix now, not sure about north america.

Beach Rats disappointed me too because her last film -- which nailed the rhythms of courtship -- impressed me.

It's the people who've watched A Quiet Passion that deserve an award.

What's this Nixon performance y'all keep going on about?

― Never Learn To Mike Love (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, December 3, 2017

If I've accomplished anything in this godforsaken place I like to think it's helping the public to see what a know-nothing little bastard Rubio is.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) December 2, 2017

A Quiet Passion was the best film of 2016, but only award eligible this year.

Oh I do love it when we talk release date eligibility.

yes, Frederik doesn't get enough chances to be a supercilious dick.

The only rhythm of courtship that interests me is "Let's screw."

then you should've loved Beach Rats.

David Edelstein's Top 10:

http://www.vulture.com/2017/12/the-10-best-movies-of-2017.html

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

I really wanted to like Valerian but it was awful

Will watch this on my lunch break, but here's David Ehrlich's annual top 25 montage: https://vimeo.com/245670075

Film critics conspiring to hate me.

Rather, they welcome your hatred!

I watched _Girls Trip_ yesterday, Haddish is indeed infectious but man that movie sucks

I'd rather people see Girls Trip than Thor: Ragnarok.